The true cost of hustling

All of the regulars at CLUB FRIENDLY where I play have decided instead of just sitting
around crying crocodile tears for the poor victims who have, through no fault of their
own, lost everything too, (do I dare say it ) POOL HUSTLERS. We are having a large
tournament, with all proceeds going directly to VOHATS
( Victims Of Hustlers And Thieving Sandbaggers ) plus CRYBABIES INT. have
donated a crying towel with I AM A VICTIM printed on it, to each HAT (that's what
they call each other) that show up for the tournament. We will also have copies of
the book " How to spot a Hustler ". This is a must read for anyone that is planning
on going into a pool room. " ... they will ask you play a friendly game for fun or maybe
a soda. After you have won every game for an hour or so, he springs the trap. 'I only
have time for one more game, instead of a soda lets play for five or ten thousand dollars
and just like that before you know what hit you, you have lost every thing..... So sign
up now Remember everyone gets a trophy, there are no winners or losers.
jack

If I wore that hat to the hall I am sure to get action from all the other victims around, they

would see it and know they have a chance to beat me...oh such deception would only work if

others were not as interested in making money as one thinks. If wearing just a hat can
bring out

a game without anything else is that a hustle? A psychological attack on a unsuspecting

player, which only works when they wrongly overestimate their speed against another player.

Still not a hustler.
 
Bunch of nits here.

Look fellas if you can't run with the big dogs, just stay on the porch.

If playing a bunch of housewives for patches and honorable mentions is you bag, then the future of pool looks bright.

IMHO, the current state of pool is 95% recreational and league play, 5% high level/pro play.

The future, probably the same or even less pro play.
 
Jeez, you had to go to the nit repellent move TWICE?? You need some new moves.

Sir
My request for assistance in obtaining a quality NIT spray was directed toward the action players only.

Still looking for a good supply of curiously strong Nit spray. Seeking something for the outcast, the loner, the misunderstood and the bitter player......walking into a dank and dangerous cesspit where decent people won't go and the regulars could care less about their reputation as a player or a person and don't mind one bit that they are disliked and not trusted. I need a potent Nit repellent for cheapskate lock artists not anywhere near A level player weasels employing all sorts of sharking tricks and cheats...despised Hustlers with cigarette stained fingers that just take take take and never ever give anything back. I need a Nit spray to ward off the type of player that would do anything to win, and they would only get into a games they felt they were a lock to win.
I don't need Nit repellent to work on old timers that payed their dues and had to learn the hard way or old timers that won't share information unless you are paying for it.

Thank You.
Eddie
 
All I remember from when I started was nobody wanting to play for play.Bunch of douchebags sitting around waiting all day for the big score that's never coming.8 hours a day at the hall with 1 hour of table time with thier crappy little "set" where the same 10 guys pass around the same $50.

This is exactly my experience also in the room I learned to play. Looking back, the place was extremely unwelcoming to newer players and all it had was the same 10 "players" passing money back and forth. It's no longer in business. Big surprise. I played there 10 hours a day anyway, but those same 10 guys would never show me anything, would seldom play in tournaments there, and definitely wouldn't go anywhere near leagues. Instead they busted everyone's balls about being a "league banger" and "not snapping off that super easy tournament they could've smashed". Whatever. So weak. Definitely bad for business.
 
This is a great post. If I knew how to do the childish "rep" thing I would give you all I could.

Pool like everything else is different. The days of standing up like a man and putting it on the line are over. Pool rooms used to have a hierarchy where the best players...no matter how old or rich...were at the top. Now any idiot with a Cuetech and a shooting glove thinks he's a player...sorry kids, but it's just not that easy.
 
Sir
My request for assistance in obtaining a quality NIT spray was directed toward the action players only.

Still looking for a good supply of curiously strong Nit spray. Seeking something for the outcast, the loner, the misunderstood and the bitter player......walking into a dank and dangerous cesspit where decent people won't go and the regulars could care less about their reputation as a player or a person and don't mind one bit that they are disliked and not trusted. I need a potent Nit repellent for cheapskate lock artists not anywhere near A level player weasels employing all sorts of sharking tricks and cheats...despised Hustlers with cigarette stained fingers that just take take take and never ever give anything back. I need a Nit spray to ward off the type of player that would do anything to win, and they would only get into a games they felt they were a lock to win.
I don't need Nit repellent to work on old timers that payed their dues and had to learn the hard way or old timers that won't share information unless you are paying for it.

Thank You.
Eddie
Pretty sure if you don't understand what the word nit means, you might just be one. Nice story though.
 
Pool like everything else is different. The days of standing up like a man and putting it on the line are over. Pool rooms used to have a hierarchy where the best players...no matter how old or rich...were at the top. Now any idiot with a Cuetech and a shooting glove thinks he's a player...sorry kids, but it's just not that easy.

That's how I remember it at least.
 
Pool like everything else is different. The days of standing up like a man and putting it on the line are over. Pool rooms used to have a hierarchy where the best players...no matter how old or rich...were at the top. Now any idiot with a Cuetech and a shooting glove thinks he's a player...sorry kids, but it's just not that easy.

I fail to see how the idealized old days in your post are in any way preferable to what you describe the reality of today to be?

It's a good thing that the higher level players never played the low level ones without charging them money?

It's a good thing that people used this bs "hierarchy" to avoid getting challenged by up- and coming players, or explain away their losses to those players as bad luck?

It's a good thing that people would rather sit around doing nothing, than playing an opponent from the lower "strata" or even eachother for free?

I simply don't understand why you think that a pooroom with a bunch of geezers sitting around doing nothing, is going to help the sport grow and get better. The key to getting the level of play up is to have lots of playing in the pool hall and as many new players as possible, since it increases the chance of new, talented players getting into the sport. If the players that are better even give the newbies some tips, the level of play increases even more.

And why, for God's sake why, is it wrong for a player to have a Cuetech and a glove? Cuetechs are cheap as dirt (for anyone with a job) and gloves are a super cheap solution to a very annoying problem in humid environments. Only in pool would people complain about a newbie spending a whopping 100 bucks for a cue and 6 dollars for a glove, especially since the cue could last a lifetime. Are all poolplayers living in their cars? There are few sports in which the equipment is cheaper. Why exactly is it a problem if a newbie buys expensive gear anyway? You don't want the pool hall or even your friend the cue flipper to make a buck? You want beginners to have ratty equipment that hold them back? Would it be better if the guy who thought he was the bees knees had an expensive custom, or would it be worse? Do you have to use a house cue until you can run 100 balls? Someone please tell the cue nuts on this forum, lol.

If you want to get paid to play, win some tournaments and get yourself some sponsors, instead of leaching off lower level players. I guess a lot of you are too "smart" for tournaments. My explanation differ slightly... If you are that desperate to get paid for pool, You could even <gasp> take up a career as an instructor. That way you still get paid for playing low level players, but you actually help them. If you want to pontificate about your own greatness, then do so to your dog, humans tend to get annoyed. If you'd rather sit around than play, go to a cafè. If pool is your only source of validation, get a new (or any) job.
 
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I fail to see how the idealized old days in your post are in any way preferable to what you describe the reality of today to be?

It's a good thing that the higher level players never played the low level ones without charging them money?

It's a good thing that people used this bs "hierarchy" to avoid getting challenged by up- and coming players, or explain away their losses to those players as bad luck?

It's a good thing that people would rather sit around doing nothing, than playing an opponent from the lower "strata" or even eachother for free?

I simply don't understand why you think that a pooroom with a bunch of geezers sitting around doing nothing, is going to help the sport grow and get better. The key to getting the level of play up is to have lots of playing in the pool hall and as many new players as possible, since it increases the chance of new, talented players getting into the sport. If the players that are better even give the newbies some tips, the level of play increases even more.

And why, for God's sake why, is it wrong for a player to have a Cuetech and a glove? Cuetechs are cheap as dirt (for anyone with a job) and gloves are a super cheap solution to a very annoying problem in humid environments. Only in pool would people complain about a newbie spending a whopping 100 bucks for a cue and 6 dollars for a glove, especially since the cue could last a lifetime. Are all poolplayers living in their cars? There are few sports in which the equipment is cheaper. Why exactly is it a problem if a newbie buys expensive gear anyway? Would it be better if the guy who thought he was the bees knees had an expensive custom, or would it be worse? Do you have to use a house cue until you can run 100 balls? Someone please tell the cue nuts on this forum, lol.

If you want to get paid to play, win some tournaments and get yourself some sponsors, instead of leaching off lower level players. I guess a lot of you are too "smart" for tournaments. My explanation differ slightly... If you are that desperate to get paid for pool, You could even <gasp> take up a career as an instructor. That way you still get paid for playing low level players, but you actually help them. If you want to pontificate about your own greatness, then do so to your dog, humans tend to get annoyed. If you'd rather sit around than play, go to a cafè. If pool is your only source of validation, get a new (or any) job.


You are not an American are you ? Correct?
 
I wonder how many people who are advocating "If you got hustled it's your own fault" would be ok with me hustling their son for their last $100 because they thought I got lucky...

I would be okay with it. I would use it as a life lesson, make sure he understood why he shouldn't be playing with his last 100, and why he lost.

I would make sure he didn't grow up with this candy a$$ "victim" mentality.
 
I fail to see how the idealized old days in your post are in any way preferable to what you describe the reality of today to be?

It's a good thing that the higher level players never played the low level ones without charging them money?

It's a good thing that people used this bs "hierarchy" to avoid getting challenged by up- and coming players, or explain away their losses to those players as bad luck?

It's a good thing that people would rather sit around doing nothing, than playing an opponent from the lower "strata" or even eachother for free?

I simply don't understand why you think that a pooroom with a bunch of geezers sitting around doing nothing, is going to help the sport grow and get better. The key to getting the level of play up is to have lots of playing in the pool hall and as many new players as possible, since it increases the chance of new, talented players getting into the sport. If the players that are better even give the newbies some tips, the level of play increases even more.

And why, for God's sake why, is it wrong for a player to have a Cuetech and a glove? Cuetechs are cheap as dirt (for anyone with a job) and gloves are a super cheap solution to a very annoying problem in humid environments. Only in pool would people complain about a newbie spending a whopping 100 bucks for a cue and 6 dollars for a glove, especially since the cue could last a lifetime. Are all poolplayers living in their cars? There are few sports in which the equipment is cheaper. Why exactly is it a problem if a newbie buys expensive gear anyway? You don't want the pool hall or even your friend the cue flipper to make a buck? You want beginners to have ratty equipment that hold them back? Would it be better if the guy who thought he was the bees knees had an expensive custom, or would it be worse? Do you have to use a house cue until you can run 100 balls? Someone please tell the cue nuts on this forum, lol.

If you want to get paid to play, win some tournaments and get yourself some sponsors, instead of leaching off lower level players. I guess a lot of you are too "smart" for tournaments. My explanation differ slightly... If you are that desperate to get paid for pool, You could even <gasp> take up a career as an instructor. That way you still get paid for playing low level players, but you actually help them. If you want to pontificate about your own greatness, then do so to your dog, humans tend to get annoyed. If you'd rather sit around than play, go to a cafè. If pool is your only source of validation, get a new (or any) job.

You know what? You're right. I"d like to bust you and send you home with 20 bucks for gas money.

I give idiots like you all the weight they ask for and the breaks. I'd run you over. But you don't gamble, you flap your gums cause you think it makes you a better person. Nonsense.
 
You are not an American are you ? Correct?

He sounds like the liberal BS that's ruined America.

Guys like this don't get it. How can I make you gamble if you don't want to? What fantasy land does this occur in?

This guy must have gone broke in every room in whatever country he's from.
 
Sir
My request for assistance in obtaining a quality NIT spray was directed toward the action players only.

Still looking for a good supply of curiously strong Nit spray. Seeking something for the outcast, the loner, the misunderstood and the bitter player......walking into a dank and dangerous cesspit where decent people won't go and the regulars could care less about their reputation as a player or a person and don't mind one bit that they are disliked and not trusted. I need a potent Nit repellent for cheapskate lock artists not anywhere near A level player weasels employing all sorts of sharking tricks and cheats...despised Hustlers with cigarette stained fingers that just take take take and never ever give anything back. I need a Nit spray to ward off the type of player that would do anything to win, and they would only get into a games they felt they were a lock to win.
I don't need Nit repellent to work on old timers that payed their dues and had to learn the hard way or old timers that won't share information unless you are paying for it.

Thank You.
Eddie

Wow, good story. Tell it again.
 
Jeez, you had to go to the nit repellent move TWICE?? You need some new moves.

Oh, I get it now. No thanks though. I'm just looking for Nit repellent, nothing else.
I havent really snorted much clintonkaine since the tech bubble days in mid 90's.
Seemed like the thing to do then???
Don't need any sweet sticky bags of throughly corrupt oligarchy corruption either.
Just looking for Nit repellent.
Prefereably made in the 70's Detroit style, using "blood of knocker" sponged up from the asphalt with a dirty rag.

Eddie
 
You know what? You're right. I"d like to bust you and send you home with 20 bucks for gas money.

I give idiots like you (snip)

Why are you going there? His post was well written and had good value to it and then you call HIM an idiot???????????

Got mirror?



Jeff Livingston
 
Pool like everything else is different. The days of standing up like a man and putting it on the line are over. Pool rooms used to have a hierarchy where the best players...no matter how old or rich...were at the top. Now any idiot with a Cuetech and a shooting glove thinks he's a player...sorry kids, but it's just not that easy.

sorry kids?????????

Wow.

Once again, a thread like this always brings out THE reason newbies avoid the pool halls like the plague.


Jeff Livingston
 
He sounds like the liberal BS that's ruined America.

Guys like this don't get it. How can I make you gamble if you don't want to? What fantasy land does this occur in?

This guy must have gone broke in every room in whatever country he's from.

Thank AZB for its IGNORE option.


Jeff Livingston
 
He sounds like the liberal BS that's ruined America.

Guys like this don't get it. How can I make you gamble if you don't want to? What fantasy land does this occur in?

This guy must have gone broke in every room in whatever country he's from.

Troll much? You're really trying your best to make someone angry - not working. Perhaps a window into a sad and pathetic life. Your display of a sense of entitlement sounds like one of the liberals that you're attempting to blame for the country's problems. Hmm, parallel, you're blaming others for the fall of the way pool "used to be" and how it got "here". Weird... Someone else's quote - Got Mirror?

This started as a thread about the true cost of hustling but you can't find a way to really defend it or the dishonesty that comes from it. I guess "every room in whatever country you're from", well, maybe there no longer in existence because of the sad state of affairs this industry finds itself.

Good luck.

Tony
 
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