the "v" a question to all coaches out there
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Do you mean the V between the thumb and forefinger of the grip hand, as mentioned here: http://www.fcsnooker.co.uk/fcsnooker_new/coaching/basics/the_grip.htm
i coach this to people and havent seen his article, i will pm him and ask him his opinion on this i showed del hill this world snooker head coach last year he calls it something else though.
its the key to success
ha ha no eric.
the reason i ask this, is this is 1 of the most important things to teach someone for them to become a better player by understanding how it works and how much effect it has on the shot, and should be taught more to people who want to improve.
V for vagina.
Edit- damn ya, Eric..
Edit- damn ya, Eric..
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lee brett...If you're talking about the fact that a rolling CB (for most cut shots) leaves the contact angle at 30 degrees (vs. 90 degrees, for a sliding CB), than yes, I've known that for decades (it's not new). I taught/teach it the same way dave describes it...using a "peace sign", with your first two fingers. Dr. Dave pointed it out, on his site, but certainly didn't 'invent' the concept (and I don't think he says he did either). He certainly made lots of poolplayers more aware of the "30 degree rule".
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
According to you, it is. Anyone can give a concept a cute name, say "V", or "the zig-zag" or "the whirly whip", and say you must need it to become a great player. What you call the V may be a concept that most good players know.
Why not explain what the V is, and how it impacts my game? Oh, wait, there's a catch isn't there? If I phone in within the next 10 minutes, what do I get? Scam-WOW?
To take it a little farther, the V or 30 degree angle is the approximate change in direction the cue ball will follow after contacting the object ball on most cut shots at or near a quarter-ball hit. Like Scott said, that is when the cue ball has natural roll when it contacts the object ball. Knowing where the cue ball "wants" to go allows the shooter to more easily plan position play.
Steve
Steve
scott i dont think anyone invented it, and it is the finishing point of the thumb and index finger after hitting the cueball, these to fingers control the shot (steering wheel) other 3 are ur power (engine), i was wondering why its not taught more the importance of this, and shawn no there is no catch, and you obviously dont play to a high level or you would understand what this is and does...
people on here always knocking people makes me laugh thought we was here to share and help people.
people on here always knocking people makes me laugh thought we was here to share and help people.
And you're a self serving, arrogant ass-clown. Seriously, the comment about you being the "most natural player potter in the world" on your YouTube profile is absolutely hilarious.
So, Sherlock, if I subscribe to Hal Mix's theory regarding the grip, being that the index finger isn't even on the cue, I guess I'm robbing myself of something? It seems to have worked well for Nick Varner.
Same principal as a proper golf grip. It has nothing to do with rolling balls, exit angles, etc. It's all about how your grip hand cradles the cue.
Eric
lee brett...Well, I guess we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about a visual aid, in recognizing the natural path of the CB, by extending your hand out, with your first and middle finger spread in a "V". You can point your index finger, or your middle finger, at the OB, and gauge the angle the CB will leave at, with the direction the other finger is pointing.
Scott Lee
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Scott Lee
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Couldn't have said it better myself. I wish Lee would just come over here and stick it to us pool players. I almost wish we could fast-forward to 2012 to find out how he did.
I am aware of the technique mentioned. Basically after your follow through, your index finger should point to the target if were to extend it forward instead of wrapping it under the cue.
And I trust we all know there is more than one way to skin a turtle.
I don't know how you bridge, but it don't work that way for me. Are you referring to a closed bridge???
hahaha! I think they mean the back hand.
Wonder if anyone posting thus far in this thread wants to test their theory against the successes of McCready or Hoppe?