The wildcard spots have been announced
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If 4th and 5th are captains picks, then likely
Albin or Alcaide-based on their rankings
Darren- they need a vet anchor like him since other than Niels , the others are relatively new
I'm a bit concerned about Darren. Not his playing ability, but his recent forfeiture at the US Open. I haven't gotten the details of why he did that, but it's something I've never seen him do. I'm concerned where his head is at right now. But I would think that him or Vandenberg would be the better fifth pick than Ouchan and Alcaide together.
not sure about that, did u see lst yrs performances of daz and albin? i would pick albin and prolly alcaide......also have not much faith in daz atm! think niels can fill his role perfectly!
The thing is Darren if not captain's pick, then Ralf is the next safe pair of vet hands
Team Euro has always had at least 2 anchor vets plus Chamat himself is a newbie so Ralf is a good choice.
The remaining slot is Alcaide or Albin or Boyes. Alcaide is out, too new
Albin is reigning World Champ and better rankings so hard to see how they would leave him out. But then Thorsten was reigning World Champ some years ago and was left out also
Rodney = Hall of Fame= check
justinb386
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I think the point I was trying to make with the comment above in red has been totally missed or unclear!
If you are the recipient of a jelly roll like this, Is it "Honorable" to accept it??? Do you say to the captain "Let me play him for it" in some kind of race format and earn it versus the captain taking the heat for snubbing the guy in 5th place. I think of the movie "the color of money" and the guy says "winner gets in the car with you"
That could have happened and we are all unaware of it??? it still could happen as Mark Wilson holds all the cards. But, being so hung up on the Navy Seals thing and "character" it is just odd to deviate from a merit based metric and snag a little further down the pecking order, without some kind of play-off for the slot or justification for the deviation. Deviating from Morris could have been rational given his "PRIOR" history and everyone would assume it was related to something he did previously. But, with Oscar , you just do not have that cover story to explain the decision. It speaks volumes when even Fast Lenny a very close friend of Morris has to create threads about how wrong and deserving the guy is.
I have said my peace. Thanks for letting me vent.
KD
What might help, is if you actually understood how the selection process worked.
Until then, you're just stirring the pot.
Oh, and by the way. You keep saying Morris was picked over Oscar. It was actually Bergman. Rodney was ahead of both of them in points. Which, by the way, don't even matter after the top 3 spots.
Oscar and Ernesto won't play each other. Every time they have a match scheduled, Ernesto forfeits to Oscar. It's always been that way. Nothing fishy going on there.
I wouldn't worry about Darren, he played well in Kuwait, and actually should've beaten Chang in the last 16. Daz always steps it up in the Mosconi, no worries at all there
Mosconi
I'm not going to argue with anyone just want to give my opinion. Bar tables everyone knows they are easy, everyone's best game is on a bar table, etc. An average pro or good player can beat anyone a set on a bar table and matches are always close. You can take someone that would lose 100-30 playing SVB on a 9ft. and they have a really good chance of beating him a race to 7 or 9 bar table 9 ball believe it or not. However good players still win the tournaments on 7ft because they are not likely to keep beating good players but matches are always closer, it's a huge equalizer.
Also anyone with any pool knowledge at all would agree with me how can you base a players performance on two race to 5's??? I'm 1-4 in Mosconi singles not a good record obviously, Oscar 0-2 and Dechaine 1-4. I'm like 3 games loser to Neil's Feign outta of 15 games and I all of a sudden just am way underdog... Not fair to Oscar, Dechaine, or myself...Neil's is obviously one of the best on the planet so not hating on him or saying I'm better.
Also people need to really watch a match and see sometimes the loser outplays the winner, ESPECIALLY in a race to 5. Sometimes the layouts are just so easy you can't mess it up, then you get 5 hard shots on your break, your opponent misses twice a or plays wrong shot and gets lucky shape whatever. So just because someone won 5-3 don't mean shit! Sorry just had to give my opinion on that. And I was told by a lot of people I shouldn't post at all just let my cue do the talking but I can't just sit back and listen to some of this.
I'm not going to argue with anyone just want to give my opinion. Bar tables everyone knows they are easy, everyone's best game is on a bar table, etc. An average pro or good player can beat anyone a set on a bar table and matches are always close. You can take someone that would lose 100-30 playing SVB on a 9ft. and they have a really good chance of beating him a race to 7 or 9 bar table 9 ball believe it or not. However good players still win the tournaments on 7ft because they are not likely to keep beating good players but matches are always closer, it's a huge equalizer.
Also anyone with any pool knowledge at all would agree with me how can you base a players performance on two race to 5's??? I'm 1-4 in Mosconi singles not a good record obviously, Oscar 0-2 and Dechaine 1-4. I'm like 3 games loser to Neil's Feign outta of 15 games and I all of a sudden just am way underdog... Not fair to Oscar, Dechaine, or myself...Neil's is obviously one of the best on the planet so not hating on him or saying I'm better.
Also people need to really watch a match and see sometimes the loser outplays the winner, ESPECIALLY in a race to 5. Sometimes the layouts are just so easy you can't mess it up, then you get 5 hard shots on your break, your opponent misses twice a or plays wrong shot and gets lucky shape whatever. So just because someone won 5-3 don't mean shit! Sorry just had to give my opinion on that. And I was told by a lot of people I shouldn't post at all just let my cue do the talking but I can't just sit back and listen to some of this.
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Well if you're talking about the first half of the post it's lyrics to an old RAP song from the early 90's.
KD - you are being accused of " stirring " the pot with your comment about kickbacks. That is a nasty accusation that I have a feeling you have absolutely nothing to base it on. Yes, you are correct kickbacks happen every single day pretty much everywhere, but in this instance I think you are just flapping those gums.
Education / legal? Really??? The education part is 110% totally irrelevant to this discussion, I think ANYONE can agree with that. As to the legal part, MAYBE a case could be made on some type of morality plain but I'd guess hardly anyone cares about that, I know I sure dont. Using your logic if those two were taken into consideration I wonder how many football / NBA players etc would be out of a job and off a team?
Justin Bergman's post in this thread - what JB just posted perfectly articulates what myself and others have been saying what we believe is ( one thing ) flawed with the Fargo Rate system that most everyone keeps saying " Oh, don't worry about that " and the only " real " answer we have gotten is it is a variance but it's not important basically.
The Freezer just made some comments about the MC and SVB I thought were interesting and kinda funny. Freeze said he thinks SVB should no longer ever have to qualify for the team, that SVB should just automatically be on the team any and every year he wishes to play forever and then it will give other players a better chance to qualify lol!
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Perfect example
A perfect example of this is last year SVB playing Neils(again Neils is top player so no disrespect) has Shane 4-0 without having a chance bad luck on break kicked in whatever didn't have a chance to win a game and it's already over. Well Shane came back 4-4 and Neils snaps the 9 ball. Well in reality Neils made way more errors than Shane but he lost. In most people's view on here well Shane dogged it he lost that's all that matters. They need to start paying attention. If we had a real tour on 9ft tables with tight pockets still underdogs can win but this kind of stuff wouldn't happen that much. Pool is a little to lucky of a game to be played in such a way. I think best way to play rotation is 15 ball because even 10 ball now players are breaking 2-3 balls and getting shot on the 1. Do that or spit balls made on the break... Maybe even make a mandatory push out so now it's more like tennis every game a player has an option. How brutal is pool?? Only game in the world you can fly 5,000 miles and make less errors than your opponent play a 30 minute match and your out.. Or even if winner break you could not shoot don't think that's fair.. That's why I prefer long races like 50,80 or a 100 whatever
A perfect example of this is last year SVB playing Neils(again Neils is top player so no disrespect) has Shane 4-0 without having a chance bad luck on break kicked in whatever didn't have a chance to win a game and it's already over. Well Shane came back 4-4 and Neils snaps the 9 ball. Well in reality Neils made way more errors than Shane but he lost. In most people's view on here well Shane dogged it he lost that's all that matters. They need to start paying attention. If we had a real tour on 9ft tables with tight pockets still underdogs can win but this kind of stuff wouldn't happen that much. Pool is a little to lucky of a game to be played in such a way. I think best way to play rotation is 15 ball because even 10 ball now players are breaking 2-3 balls and getting shot on the 1. Do that or spit balls made on the break... Maybe even make a mandatory push out so now it's more like tennis every game a player has an option. How brutal is pool?? Only game in the world you can fly 5,000 miles and make less errors than your opponent play a 30 minute match and your out.. Or even if winner break you could not shoot don't think that's fair.. That's why I prefer long races like 50,80 or a 100 whatever
Justin ( not 386 lol ), by the way congrats and I personally don't have any problem with the selection. I think a good portion of the flack your gonna hear on here about the selection probably isn't so much against you but rather pro Oscar. Many folks consider him a really nice guy, a very straight forward honest guy and they feel he is being slighted and just by chance it's falling on you. Then of course a few haters that want to make accusations just because they like to ( hear ) themselves " talk ". ANYWAYS don't sweat it and go kick some Euro trash ass!!!! ( just a little pre MC smack talk 
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Yep your right, I know just wanted to clear some things up. I'm not talking about anyone in particular, just saying a lot times the best player don't win, actually most of the time, have to get some luck to win. I know in my head I think I should play on the team. I played a lot of $2k entries and did well this year, I know I didn't make the points but came close and I didn't play in half the events because they weren't worth it for me to spend $2,000 and if I win the tournament I make $500.. Some I woulda lost money or broke even.
Yep your right, I know just wanted to clear some things up. I'm not talking about anyone in particular, just saying a lot times the best player don't win, actually most of the time, have to get some luck to win. I know in my head I think I should play on the team. I played a lot of $2k entries and did well this year, I know I didn't make the points but came close and I didn't play in half the events because they weren't worth it for me to spend $2,000 and if I win the tournament I make $500.. Some I woulda lost money or broke even.
Hey Justin, FWIW, I thought you were an absolute shoe in for the captain's pick, in my opinion, you are the second best player available to the US team. Don't listen to these asshats who think you are in through nepotism. Best of rolls at Ally Pally!!
(Not too good obviously, as I am still for EEEUUUURRRROOOPPPPEEEE!!!)
(Not too good obviously, as I am still for EEEUUUURRRROOOPPPPEEEE!!!)
How tight do you think pockets should be in rotation games? Once it gets to a point they're spitting balls or you have to compromise how you play position due to being unable to cheat the pocket. What's your opinion?
Watch some Chinese 8 ball with those small Snooker type pockets and you will see the top players just get a small angle for the next OB. Johnnyt