I would like to know your opinion of which is better! A Pool shooter, or a Pool player? And possibly why? Thanks for your input. They are different!
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Lock N Load.
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Their are Pool shooters and Pool players, which group is better?
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Thank you Mr. Jason....
I appreciate your input. Thanks. How are you going to look up everyone's opinions? Of something?
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Lock N Load.
I appreciate your input. Thanks. How are you going to look up everyone's opinions? Of something?
Regards,
Lock N Load.
First,,whats the dif in a pool shooter and a pool player?
I think I got it!! A pool shooter: Someone who plays mostly in the basement and don't get out much. Very good shot maker and possibly all around the table. Could be someone who just got of prison,,lol,,,lots of practice on a table.
Pool player: Been in the leagues forever,,and playing tournaments.Everyone in the area knows him. Plays well!!!!
A pool shooter is dangerous. New guy ,,don't know how he plays,,wants to bet,,and may beat you with some "super man" shots,,,low percentage but somehow they go in.
Pool player is dangerous too,,,but don't see all the super shots,,just a slow steady beat down!! lol
Put the two together in a match and the shooter might come out of the gates with some wins,,might even be almost one sided as these super shots and run outs. But if they play long enough the player will take over.
THE END!!!:grin:
I think I got it!! A pool shooter: Someone who plays mostly in the basement and don't get out much. Very good shot maker and possibly all around the table. Could be someone who just got of prison,,lol,,,lots of practice on a table.
Pool player: Been in the leagues forever,,and playing tournaments.Everyone in the area knows him. Plays well!!!!
A pool shooter is dangerous. New guy ,,don't know how he plays,,wants to bet,,and may beat you with some "super man" shots,,,low percentage but somehow they go in.
Pool player is dangerous too,,,but don't see all the super shots,,just a slow steady beat down!! lol
Put the two together in a match and the shooter might come out of the gates with some wins,,might even be almost one sided as these super shots and run outs. But if they play long enough the player will take over.
THE END!!!:grin:
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Pool Shooter - Anyone from a newbie to being pretty good, BUT they usually have played in bars mostly. Good open table shooters, but usually lack the finer points expertise, like banking, especially more than 1 rail, combos can be weak, safety play. They can be anywhere from a loud mouth drunk to pretty nice guys.
Pool Players - Grew up in Poolrooms mostly, may play in bars, but only to hustle money. They treat Pool as more of a sport instead of just a game.
They are more knowledgeable about Pool in general, the equipment, how to act, negotiating a match, etc.. When you become a player, you have reached a certain level of expertise in the sport. You also start to become known out and around, and usually you have gambled quite a bit, and for more than nickels and dimes.
Now, which is the better group? Well, shooters are the easiest to hustle and match up with, but players are the better group to be around in a general sense, but harder to negotiate with, match up with. Some players can be pretty boisterius sometimes, but the smart ones aren't.
Pool Shooter - Anyone from a newbie to being pretty good, BUT they usually have played in bars mostly. Good open table shooters, but usually lack the finer points expertise, like banking, especially more than 1 rail, combos can be weak, safety play. They can be anywhere from a loud mouth drunk to pretty nice guys.
Pool Players - Grew up in Poolrooms mostly, may play in bars, but only to hustle money. They treat Pool as more of a sport instead of just a game.
They are more knowledgeable about Pool in general, the equipment, how to act, negotiating a match, etc.. When you become a player, you have reached a certain level of expertise in the sport. You also start to become known out and around, and usually you have gambled quite a bit, and for more than nickels and dimes.
Now, which is the better group? Well, shooters are the easiest to hustle and match up with, but players are the better group to be around in a general sense, but harder to negotiate with, match up with. Some players can be pretty boisterius sometimes, but the smart ones aren't.
A pool shooter is someone who plays pool. A pool player is someone who shoots pool.
One isn't better that the other and it's just how it is used in context. For example, "man, he is a shooter!" or "that guy is a player". Interchangeable.
Okay LNL, I'm going to give this a try.
Pool shooter: One who is a very good/great shotmaker but lacks skill in the pattern/safety/strategy aspects of pool.
Pool player: Not as good a shot as the "pure shooter", but excels in the strategy parts of the game and is better in the mental part of pool as well.
Myself, I do not fear the "pure shooter" as good defensive play/strategy can bring this type of player down to my level. Now, a person that isn't a pure shooter, but can kick out of safes, make balls AND get position with a jump cue, can lock you up "in jail" in a heartbeat, play great patterns, and mentally keep his sh*t together and still be able to shoot good enough to get out, that is the type of person I would rather not play for the cheese!!!
So I would say, using my criteria, that a pool "player" is better.
Is this what you were looking for LNL???
Maniac
Pool shooter: One who is a very good/great shotmaker but lacks skill in the pattern/safety/strategy aspects of pool.
Pool player: Not as good a shot as the "pure shooter", but excels in the strategy parts of the game and is better in the mental part of pool as well.
Myself, I do not fear the "pure shooter" as good defensive play/strategy can bring this type of player down to my level. Now, a person that isn't a pure shooter, but can kick out of safes, make balls AND get position with a jump cue, can lock you up "in jail" in a heartbeat, play great patterns, and mentally keep his sh*t together and still be able to shoot good enough to get out, that is the type of person I would rather not play for the cheese!!!
So I would say, using my criteria, that a pool "player" is better.
Is this what you were looking for LNL???
Maniac
I thank you for your response.
Your opinion is exactly what I want to hear! Thanks again.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Your opinion is exactly what I want to hear! Thanks again.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Good input!
I thank you for this good input. You are the ball this morning!
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Lock N Load.
I thank you for this good input. You are the ball this morning!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
That is exactly what I thought when I read the OP. And I totally agree. I have matched up against some very good shot makers, but ended up winning, not because I out-shot them, but because I was able to out-play them.
Steve
Everyone that is a "player" should know what a "shooter" is. (did I just say that??What a goofy thread,,but it has a point,,I think)
Everyone starts out as a "shooter". And then after awhile(could be years) they start to realize that the high risk,,no fear way of shooting is not the best way to win. It takes playing better "players" to realize this. Or entering more tournaments/leagues ect...
I'm not sure if "player" and "shooter" are the best terms for this,,but I can't think of a better.
There's nothing wrong with a little showboating. When this risky way of playing works,,its impressive. But when it does not,,,it hurts.
Sometimes I play a little too conservative. I like the player/shooter option.lol Conservative but not afraid to get aggressive at times!!! It will ruin the hopes of your opponent. lol ( I think that is called the zone!!)
Everyone starts out as a "shooter". And then after awhile(could be years) they start to realize that the high risk,,no fear way of shooting is not the best way to win. It takes playing better "players" to realize this. Or entering more tournaments/leagues ect...
I'm not sure if "player" and "shooter" are the best terms for this,,but I can't think of a better.
There's nothing wrong with a little showboating. When this risky way of playing works,,its impressive. But when it does not,,,it hurts.
Sometimes I play a little too conservative. I like the player/shooter option.lol Conservative but not afraid to get aggressive at times!!! It will ruin the hopes of your opponent. lol ( I think that is called the zone!!)
Good input!
Hey Maniac,
You are saying exactly what I want to hear! I think of it the same way as you stated it. Yes it is what I am looking for!
This question came about because of something that happen to me a few years ago.... I was playing pool and a guy came up to me and wanted to shoot me some pool. I said OK, and we began to play. I lost 11 games in a row! Everybody in the pool hall were laughing. He thought it was because I had lost to him!
He walked up to me and said their are 2 kind of people that shoot pool! I said, and? He said their is a pool shooters that hits balls and can make a good shot every now and then. And their were the pool players like him who knew all about the game and could play very well.
I walked to the other end of the table and put a hundred dollar bill on the table, he broke his arm off almost trying to get his hundred on the table! He, He, He! He has not won a game yet! And the people in the pool hall asked him if he knew why they were laughing when I lost the 11 games shooting for nothing! He said all he knew was that I could hit those balls very good!! Now they were laughing because he found out that I was a pool player! He told me I sure could play well! I told him that I got lucky was all that happen, and that I could not make a ball. End of story.....
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Hey Maniac,
You are saying exactly what I want to hear! I think of it the same way as you stated it. Yes it is what I am looking for!
This question came about because of something that happen to me a few years ago.... I was playing pool and a guy came up to me and wanted to shoot me some pool. I said OK, and we began to play. I lost 11 games in a row! Everybody in the pool hall were laughing. He thought it was because I had lost to him!
He walked up to me and said their are 2 kind of people that shoot pool! I said, and? He said their is a pool shooters that hits balls and can make a good shot every now and then. And their were the pool players like him who knew all about the game and could play very well.
I walked to the other end of the table and put a hundred dollar bill on the table, he broke his arm off almost trying to get his hundred on the table! He, He, He! He has not won a game yet! And the people in the pool hall asked him if he knew why they were laughing when I lost the 11 games shooting for nothing! He said all he knew was that I could hit those balls very good!! Now they were laughing because he found out that I was a pool player! He told me I sure could play well! I told him that I got lucky was all that happen, and that I could not make a ball. End of story.....
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Good input!
Hello Pooltchr,
Very good input. Read my response to Maniac's post and you will see why I started this post. Thanks again for your input.
Regards, Lock N Load.
Hello Pooltchr,
Very good input. Read my response to Maniac's post and you will see why I started this post. Thanks again for your input.
Regards, Lock N Load.
Good input!
Hello Flash,
I thought it would be a good post! Perhaps I was wrong! I thank you for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Hello Flash,
I thought it would be a good post! Perhaps I was wrong! I thank you for your input.
Regards,
Lock N Load.
In my experience, people who talk about "shooting" pool are different than those who "play" pool. That may have changed over the years, I'm not sure. I pay more attention to those who "play", personally. They tend to be the more serious,experienced people. I'm sure
many will disagree,as the new breed of players often don't understand our terminology.
many will disagree,as the new breed of players often don't understand our terminology.
Please define a professional poolplayer. It's hard to figure out where the line is drawn between what an amateur is and where the "pro" level begins. Very hard.
Not trying to hijack the thread though!!!
Maniac
Hey Paksat!
What is that arrow doing pointing to you over to the left like that? He, He, He. I am still laughing! Thanks for your input Player!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
What is that arrow doing pointing to you over to the left like that? He, He, He. I am still laughing! Thanks for your input Player!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Hey Maniac,
Definition --> He, is a pool player/Professional.... I realize you are not trying to Hijack this thread!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
Definition --> He, is a pool player/Professional.... I realize you are not trying to Hijack this thread!
Regards,
Lock N Load.
master9baller
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the difference
Poolshooters don't know what they don't know. They haven't played against strong talent enough to know that sometimes when you lose it's because the other player didn't give you any chances. They don't understand the intricacies of position play, strategy and 2 way shots.
Poolplayers beat poolshooters consistently and pool shooters don't even understand how or why, they become "customers".
To become a poolplayer, poolshooters need to relearn everything they understand about the game in order to elevate it. This takes work and the ability to see the flaws in one's game. Most shooters will never make that transition, and many are completely unaware of the difference.
Poolshooters don't know what they don't know. They haven't played against strong talent enough to know that sometimes when you lose it's because the other player didn't give you any chances. They don't understand the intricacies of position play, strategy and 2 way shots.
Poolplayers beat poolshooters consistently and pool shooters don't even understand how or why, they become "customers".
To become a poolplayer, poolshooters need to relearn everything they understand about the game in order to elevate it. This takes work and the ability to see the flaws in one's game. Most shooters will never make that transition, and many are completely unaware of the difference.