There is no one way to play pool.

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GregH
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Just as the title says. What style of shooting one player uses does not mean this style is for everyone nor is a style suited for the game being played

If one does not see the value of slow roll, this does not mean there are not those that see the value of being able to slow roll.

If one can not hit the center of the CB, this does not mean there are not those that can do so and do so well.

It has been sad to watch the overrunning of one player style of play over others. Meaning, if you don't agree with the way that player says you need to play, you don't know what you are talking about and as such get trashed.

This attitude dismisses the person experiences from playing and how they see things and do things. Such as you may not see the need for slow rolling, but that doesn't mean someone else does and uses it quite effectively. To tel them not to, without ever seeing how they play is pretty arrogant and just pushing your style of play over what may work or is currently working for someone.

I still waiting to play any one from AZB.......using my way.
 
I agree that you shouldn't push your personal style onto someone else, but there are some tried and true things such as keeping your body still, not dropping your arm, not using your shoulder on the stroke, etc. When friends dismiss me because of some good advice, that's their loss. Only trying to help!

I agree with you, mostly, about how you shouldn't push your style onto someone else, like pocket speed, etc, but suggestions are cool too.
 
So listen to no one?

duckie said:
Just as the title says. What style of shooting one player uses does not mean this style is for everyone nor is a style suited for the game being played

If one does not see the value of slow roll, this does not mean there are not those that see the value of being able to slow roll.

If one can not hit the center of the CB, this does not mean there are not those that can do so and do so well.

It has been sad to watch the overrunning of one player style of play over others. Meaning, if you don't agree with the way that player says you need to play, you don't know what you are talking about and as such get trashed.

This attitude dismisses the person experiences from playing and how they see things and do things. Such as you may not see the need for slow rolling, but that doesn't mean someone else does and uses it quite effectively. To tel them not to, without ever seeing how they play is pretty arrogant and just pushing your style of play over what may work or is currently working for someone.

I still waiting to play any one from AZB.......using my way.
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Are you saying that there's no value in books, DVDs, or personal lessons?

"Style" and basic mechanics are not the same thing...and effective shot selection is based on logic more than personal whim.
 
Greg,

I agree. To each his own.

Keep in mind. It's a two(2) way street. You seem to take offense, as I do at times, when someone puts down something that I employ. But both you & I have put down in varying degrees what others have said they do.

I think the problem is in the text format, where the means of communication or lack there of has no tone or inflection to go along with the words & no questions can clarify one's meaning or intention until the whole 'speech' is completed.

Interesting that you bring up slow rolling a ball. Just this past week I had a long 'straight' shot on the 8 to win the match. I considered slow rolling it but decided to pop it with TOI. It popped into the back of the pocket for the win.

Then about 4 weks ago I had a very similiar shot, again for the match, that I was considering using TOI but decided to slow roll it. The 8 ball dropped & the CB stopped about 3/4 of a diamond short of scratching.

They both worked & I really could not tell you why I chose the one over the other except for just a feeling. A feeling I guess based on years of experience.

I hope you see my points.

Best Regards,
 
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Yeah, if anyone needs to see examples of someone dictating to people how to learn the game, that aiming systems are stupid, and that ghostball is the only way to go, just read Duckie's prior posts.

Explain what you mean playing someone from AZ your way? Or is this anther trolling thread that you start but then don't respond to anyone's comments like every other one you have started?

Perhaps people don't want to meet up and play with you because it doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun. I can picture it now, nothing but unsolicited advice, non-stop talk about hitting a million balls and hours everyday of practice, and so many damn ghostball arrows on the table there aren't room for the balls.
 
Donny Lutz said:
Are you saying that there's no value in books, DVDs, or personal lessons?

"Style" and basic mechanics are not the same thing...and effective shot selection is based on logic more than personal whim.
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Absolutely true. Style is simply one's own way of expressing a solid base of accrued fundamentals, and are generally unique to the individual.
It is unlikely that you could adopt my style, for instance, and be successful, but at least you would be uncommonly handsome. :)
 
I agree 100% I do believe that there are basic fundamentals and systems that work. But if there was just one way people would be watching clips of Mosconi and would be perfecting every aspect of his style. Not everybody holds the cue the same way. Bridge, stroke, preshot, equipment, bridge length are all factors.

I watch top pros that I feel I emulate and use their footage to compare to my filmed practice. Look at Allen Hopkins. Nobody plays like him but it seems to work.
 
There's a poster on here that has a great sig, something like "when I say something, it does not mean "ALWAYS, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, 100% OF THE TIME".

You seem to struggle with that idea duckie. You're choosing to pretend that CJ says "NEVER roll a ball slowed in ANY game" when he's obviously offering general advice that has certain exceptions... just like "don't jack up" is general advice with certain exceptions.

He's absolutely correct that babying balls adds certain risks (rolloff being the main one) and that most pros avoid it... except in games where it's desirable to leave a ball hanging in the hole, or the shot is close enough to the hole that rolloff can't hurt it.

Remember, we're talking 'barely trickling into the pocket' speed, not a moderate rolling speed like lag speed.
 
duckie said:
I still waiting to play any one from AZB.......using my way.
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I'd be all over it for whatever I could scratch together, but that's a pretty long drive.

You're in the bay area and you're acting like people are.. well.. duck-ing you. Hit up one of the decent tournaments around there and let us know how your way works out.
 
Tramp Steamer said:
Absolutely true. Style is simply one's own way of expressing a solid base of accrued fundamentals, and are generally unique to the individual.
It is unlikely that you could adopt my style, for instance, and be successful, but at least you would be uncommonly handsome. :)
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Damn...thank you for all the chuckles you've given me. This is yet another. I'd greenie that, but I'm told I have to spread it around.
 
I hesitate to bring this up, but I've decided to let the forum know the real aiming method used by most pros.

There truly only is one aiming method, and it can be found ---> HERE.
 
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