"There's always a shot" - true or false?
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TheOne said:
Well I guess it is true, but at my skill level I can't always execute it and I can't always see it. I guess in that sense there isn't always a shot.
It's kind of like the saying "does a tree falling make a sound if nobody is there to hear it?", "is a shot always there if there is nobody there to execute it?"
It's true there's always a shot. Whether you can pull it off or not is a different question.TheOne said:
Even if you have no choice but to take a foul, at least make the foul to your advantage by rearanging things to suit you better.
What about this situation? I guess there is a shot if you send the 9 about 17 rails (without pocketing the 9) and have it rest perfectly on the 8 such that there is no dead combination to any pocket with BIH.TheOne said:
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jsp said:What about this situation? I guess there is a shot if you send the 9 about 17 rails (without pocketing the 9) and have it rest perfectly on the 8 such that there is no dead combination to any pocket with BIH.
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OK so maybe it applies more to 8 ball lol, not a bad example and certainly few options in that situation if any.
Chuck Norris?steev said:
false
It is true that you can always hit the cue ball but sometimes all you can do is foul and give away the game. Maybe the most beautiful shot in the game is to jaw the cue ball and bring your ball back to almost touch or touch it. Your opponent's only option is to jump off of the pocket facing or the back of the pocket. I have never succeeded in that shot yet with a deeply jawed cue ball. Even tighter scenarios can be set up almost anywhere on the table using two balls and a rail.
Hu
It is true that you can always hit the cue ball but sometimes all you can do is foul and give away the game. Maybe the most beautiful shot in the game is to jaw the cue ball and bring your ball back to almost touch or touch it. Your opponent's only option is to jump off of the pocket facing or the back of the pocket. I have never succeeded in that shot yet with a deeply jawed cue ball. Even tighter scenarios can be set up almost anywhere on the table using two balls and a rail.
Hu
TheOne said:
steev said:
The way he set this shot up you can't hit the other jaw without hitting the 9 first so I doubt the shot you mention is possible.
Well, what do we mean by "shot" here?
Is it always possible to make a legal hit? No.
When you can make a legal hit, is it always possible to pocket the ball? No.
When you can't pocket the ball, is it always possible to hook your opponent? No.
When you can pocket the ball, is it always possible to get position on the next ball? Yes (assuming "position" just means possible shot).
When you can't make a legal hit, it is always possible to freeze the balls to make your opponent's runout difficult? No.
That's what I think. There are situations I can think of, pretty much all involving multiple frozen balls, where in my opinion you can't make a legal hit, or where you can make a legal hit but can't pocket your ball, or where you can't make a legal hit AND can't create an un-runnable table.
How often do these situations come up where these things are truly not possible in my opinion? Virtually never. In a real game, I would agree that there's always a shot, it's just a matter of whether you're creative/knowledgable enough to see it, and skilled enough to do it.
-Andrew
Is it always possible to make a legal hit? No.
When you can make a legal hit, is it always possible to pocket the ball? No.
When you can't pocket the ball, is it always possible to hook your opponent? No.
When you can pocket the ball, is it always possible to get position on the next ball? Yes (assuming "position" just means possible shot).
When you can't make a legal hit, it is always possible to freeze the balls to make your opponent's runout difficult? No.
That's what I think. There are situations I can think of, pretty much all involving multiple frozen balls, where in my opinion you can't make a legal hit, or where you can make a legal hit but can't pocket your ball, or where you can't make a legal hit AND can't create an un-runnable table.
How often do these situations come up where these things are truly not possible in my opinion? Virtually never. In a real game, I would agree that there's always a shot, it's just a matter of whether you're creative/knowledgable enough to see it, and skilled enough to do it.
-Andrew
I did have to come to the table with ball in hand on this --- I was already on ONE foul - I tried to place cue ball on rail to shoot the four ( as in picture )but was not allowed. Needless to say NO SHOT and I 3 fouled out.
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Re: Manning's solution- what would the point of that be? Hope the opponene can't run out?. EDIT- I HOPE IT IS 9B! Mannings solution puts you on 2 fouls and does not improve the outlook...
Here is the real shot! Shoot the 5 into the 4, pocketing it, as suggested by Manning, but let 5 roll up behind6 so that it can't be made w/ BIH. I believe that there will be room to hit the 5 on the next shot (w/ BIH), but the 9's location will present some difficulty towards sending the CB up table...
Here is the shot after "what you shoulda done":
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Here is the real shot! Shoot the 5 into the 4, pocketing it, as suggested by Manning, but let 5 roll up behind6 so that it can't be made w/ BIH. I believe that there will be room to hit the 5 on the next shot (w/ BIH), but the 9's location will present some difficulty towards sending the CB up table...
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i may have gone for something like that. I know I tried to mess it up for him but that put me on 2 - and im not sure of the exact lay out but left me tuff. Andrew - as always a good eye!!
9BallBust-O said:
No No No!
Don't be afraid to go from 1 foul w/ no shots to 2 fouls w/ the chance of a shot!
blackballed.... nice because I would of taken the 2nd foul but chances are Id get to the 5 somehow next shot
9BallBust-O said:
Now you got it! That is progress!