They Finally Made a Pool Table-Computer

bbb said:
denwhit
could you post a picture of where the projector is located when the system is all set up and ready to go please
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Sure; This projector and the little deck of cards microcomputer that ProjectorPro puts out. I have not tucked this all in yet but you can see it. I have 10' ceilings so I have to have it all about 2' below that and 7' from the end of the pool table. If you have any questions at all you can call them at 720-949-8033 and let them know what you have. Robin has one for his 7' at the end and is getting one for his 9' but he has to install the 9' at the sides so he's got to understand what projector he has to have.
 

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mchnhed said:
It's the program not the computer.
(Sounds Familiar?)
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It's the micro computer that ProjectorProBilliards has put out. It takes a local TV projector and transmits the pool table like a 9' X 4.5' or 8' X 4'. If you install a TV projector up on the ceiling at 7' away, you'll get the end of the table at the right width BUT the far end would be about 10' apart. THIS is what has set the whole deal apart. Their computer will load all of everything we would ever want as far as drills, balls, games, patterns, safeties, etc. etc.
 
They have a video showing how to set up the projector and do an initial calibration and it looks like you don't have to do ceiling mount, it can even mount on a shelf set at the right height/distance which is very appealing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZ_8v2VBrw

Two things I'm wondering:

One, does the light from the projector interfere with vision when you are down on the table practicing drills. With the projector at one end of the table, even with it fairly high up it isn't like it is projecting perpendicularly down on the table, it is coming in at a slant. I would think this could potentially create a problem if you were looking in the direction of the projector.

Two, with the projector being at one end of the table and not projecting perpendicularly down to the table, does the projection at the far end of the table get stretched or does the calibration system somehow compensate for this?

This looks to be a really cool setup and eliminates a lot of what I found tedious about running drills (repeating exact ball placement, looking from book to table, using paper on the table to create zones, etc).
 
kid said:
Does that program calculate where the cb is going if you add some english?


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I saw one projection that showed the expected path of the cue ball with a certain amount of English as part of a drill. It looks like the system simply projects static images, it isn't doing any computational calculations or sensing what is physically going on at the table.
 
BassMasterK said:
They have a video showing how to set up the projector and do an initial calibration and it looks like you don't have to do ceiling mount, it can even mount on a shelf set at the right height/distance which is very appealing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJZ_8v2VBrw

Two things I'm wondering:

One, does the light from the projector interfere with vision when you are down on the table practicing drills. With the projector at one end of the table, even with it fairly high up it isn't like it is projecting perpendicularly down on the table, it is coming in at a slant. I would think this could potentially create a problem if you were looking in the direction of the projector.

Two, with the projector being at one end of the table and not projecting perpendicularly down to the table, does the projection at the far end of the table get stretched or does the calibration system somehow compensate for this?

This looks to be a really cool setup and eliminates a lot of what I found tedious about running drills (repeating exact ball placement, looking from book to table, using paper on the table to create zones, etc).
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NO, the projector does NOT cause any discomfort at all. I have mine about 7.5-8' and it does not cause any problems. The far end of the table has the ball numbers the same size at the fore end but the display is not as clear, but just as good. All we have to do is set up the balls and it's plenty for that. I love mine by doing drills in combination ball runs. They have it all set up with 2 ball runs and all the way to 10 ball runs. I set mine on 5 and did 10 each and am now working on 7 ball runs. I don't know how many runs they give but must be 50 or so in each ball pattern. I love to drill on patterns but the paper forms were just too much for me. Now, I can set them up and twist them vertically or horizontally. And, this is just with the stuff the Projector Pros gave.... I have an instructor that will be producing all of his stuff soon enough and I understand other instructors will be doing the same.
 
BassMasterK said:
I saw one projection that showed the expected path of the cue ball with a certain amount of English as part of a drill. It looks like the system simply projects static images, it isn't doing any computational calculations or sensing what is physically going on at the table.
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No, nothing to do with your CB. Everything has to come from the projector. Now, you can do the drills, patterns, etc. or enter into it the patterns that you want or see on TV etc.
 
This will be really really cool in a few years! As the the technology improves and gets smaller! Then ppl would be able to buy downloads from every instructor on the planet!
 
denwhit said:
NO, the projector does NOT cause any discomfort at all. I have mine about 7.5-8' and it does not cause any problems. The far end of the table has the ball numbers the same size at the fore end but the display is not as clear, but just as good. All we have to do is set up the balls and it's plenty for that. I love mine by doing drills in combination ball runs. They have it all set up with 2 ball runs and all the way to 10 ball runs. I set mine on 5 and did 10 each and am now working on 7 ball runs. I don't know how many runs they give but must be 50 or so in each ball pattern. I love to drill on patterns but the paper forms were just too much for me. Now, I can set them up and twist them vertically or horizontally. And, this is just with the stuff the Projector Pros gave.... I have an instructor that will be producing all of his stuff soon enough and I understand other instructors will be doing the same.
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Thanks for the quick reply and the answers to my questions. I saw a video where they went through the different ball run patterns and it looked like there is a lot there. Plus you can take a pattern and mirror image it to run the exact same pattern from the other side of the table. It also looked very simple and not too time consuming to set up your own patterns, basically as long as it takes to select a ball and click on the table as many times as there are balls in the drill. There is a lot to really love here. I'm starting the process of building a game room and this is looking more and more like it will be an addition to my setup.

As someone else said, this is just the beginning as far as content goes.
 
Can this system be updated over time? Is the projector software in the microcomputer updatable if the company comes out with improvements?

How do you get new things in and out of that computer? I've never seen one of those little ones.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Can this system be updated over time? Is the projector software in the microcomputer updatable if the company comes out with improvements?

How do you get new things in and out of that computer? I've never seen one of those little ones.
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Oh Yeah, it's just now getting started. The ProjectorPro are just about a week or so away to offer their second version of their set up. It's very easy now but will be much easier in the future. I think all pool teachers will come up to this eventually.
 
denwhit said:
Oh Yeah, it's just now getting started. The ProjectorPro are just about a week or so away to offer their second version of their set up. It's very easy now but will be much easier in the future. I think all pool teachers will come up to this eventually.
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Every Billiards Room should have one table setup as a "Teaching Table"(tm).

Query?
Would any of you visit and pay to use such a teaching system?
What if it was a single table in a nice space conducive to pool lessons?
Emerald City Billiards in Glendale, CA had a single table used for instruction before Cory retired.
 
mchnhed said:
Isn't everybody a member?

Seriously, Dr. Dave trusted it enough to allow his info on the system.
I think he did it voluntarily. But Not Sure.
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Ha ha... I'm asking as it would be cool if they were on here and interacting with us, like the OB guys, for example.
 
I found the better of the two projectors they recommend for 250 on ebay, factory refurbished. That would bring the total price of the system to 500.

I might pull the trigger, but kind of hate being an early adopter without seeing more. I saw all of their videos on youtube, and am impressed.

I'd still like to see how to go from a page in a drill book I already own, to the screen. They show the end result on youtube, but not how to do it. I'd also like to know if it can do that from a screenshot of a pro match on youtube. And if the camera angle has to be directly overhead, or any angle.

I also see on their site they list linux and windows software. What is this software for? I thought the unit was self contained in that microcomputer? I have a Mac, does that mean this won't work for me?

I'd also like to know more about the microcomputer itself. What are its specs? What OS does it run? How do you update it?

I'd also like to know if there is a social sharing aspect of this. If I generate a drill, can I share it to their website, where then denwhit can get it for free? Like google does with their CAD software and user uploaded models?
 
mchnhed said:
Seriously, Dr. Dave trusted it enough to allow his info on the system. I think he did it voluntarily. But Not Sure.
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I gave them permission to use my stuff, and I also gave them some input on their system, but that's about it. Don't read too much into them using my stuff.

Regards,
Dave
 
This is like 'Strava' for Pool Players.

iusedtoberich said:
I found the better of the two projectors they recommend for 250 on ebay, factory refurbished. That would bring the total price of the system to 500.

I might pull the trigger, but kind of hate being an early adopter without seeing more. I saw all of their videos on youtube, and am impressed.

I'd still like to see how to go from a page in a drill book I already own, to the screen. They show the end result on youtube, but not how to do it. I'd also like to know if it can do that from a screenshot of a pro match on youtube. And if the camera angle has to be directly overhead, or any angle.

I also see on their site they list linux and windows software. What is this software for? I thought the unit was self contained in that microcomputer? I have a Mac, does that mean this won't work for me?

I'd also like to know more about the microcomputer itself. What are its specs? What OS does it run? How do you update it?

I'd also like to know if there is a social sharing aspect of this. If I generate a drill, can I share it to their website, where then denwhit can get it for free? Like google does with their CAD software and user uploaded models?
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Well, I emailed the developers my list of questions, and asked them to come participate on AZ and this thread.
 
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