This Is An Absolute Disgrace........

If the entry fee was $1,000.00 you would not see 78 players in a regional tournament.

Being that it was a Florida tournament, and I have some familiarity with alot of the players, I eyeballed the bracket to see who I thought would put up 1k. There are at least 20-30 guys who would not have played I think if the entry fee was 1k and thats being pretty generous. It might in fact be only 17 players who want to put up 1k, making it still 17k in prize money.
 
BazookaJoe said:
Yeah
Don't market the sport so it pays for it's self.
Just make the players pay for it.
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Many sports started out paying for themselves. Poker (not a sport) but often talked about in the forum still does. Larger entry fees may mean fewer but more meaningful tournaments with larger payouts. Big payouts draw interest. Enough interest draws sponsers. Sponsers draw interest. This could create a snow ball effect that only the players can put in motion. Evan well meaning fans can really only contribute by buying products, paying admission to events and frequentig places like this that advertise the sport. Its up to the Players to unite under one pool playing body and make thier sport pay. They could and I hope they do.
 
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I have to say that is the price that the men pay for not having their stuff together. their have been many attempts to legitmize mens pool but greed seems to get in the most of the time. It is always how much can I get right now, not realizing that if they put a good system together and stick with it that they can make good money. but, patience has never been a pool players strong point at least the men any way. I also know that the sport has not been helped by the promoters in the past. just my .02
 
This is labeled as a pro event, and if the entry was higher with substantially bigger pay-outs, you might see a lot more top players coming to play in the event. Even if you only got 32, that is 32,000.00!
 
Bob Jewett said:
What are you willing to do yourself?
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If you are insinuating this towards ME personally,"what are you willing to do yourself"?NOTHING,I'm NOT a pro player and never will be.
My start on this thread was just to point out how sad pro players purses are in tournaments.
A perfect example is our own a.z. member Poolgod wins $6,000 b.c.a. in vegas singles for third (I know, with at least 10x the field.And congrats again)but these are pro players,people who do this for a living.
I'm no genius,I dont have the answers,I'M JUST SAYING IT'S SAD.
 
uwate said:
If the entry fee was $1,000.00 you would not see 78 players in a regional tournament.

Being that it was a Florida tournament, and I have some familiarity with alot of the players, I eyeballed the bracket to see who I thought would put up 1k. There are at least 20-30 guys who would not have played I think if the entry fee was 1k and thats being pretty generous. It might in fact be only 17 players who want to put up 1k, making it still 17k in prize money.
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I think your wrong,I think you would find there would be MORE players knowing that at least there is some money to be made.
I would bet if you had a $5,000 entry tournament with some added money you would have 50 of the best players scrambling to find backers or sponsors to get them in there.YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY.
 
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jimmy-leggs said:
I think your wrong,I think you would find there would be MORE players knowing that at least there is some money to be made.
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Since most of the players are gamblers, they'd figure the odds, decide they were too high to spend $1000 on an entry fee, and split that up into two nickel sets where the odds are better.:D
 
The Seminole tribe is already planning on raising the entry fees and searching to branch out into different states. They are getting feedback from the players at every event to see what the consensus is, within 3 years this tour should be a totally different animal than it is now.

They have people on top of things now, the tournaments are being run better and there is a long term plan being formed. It may not be a million dollar tour, but we've all seen where those end up.
 
John Schmidt, one of the top 9 ball players in the country, a threat in any tournmament, requested someone to split his entry fee for the U.S. Open, and that was only $500. You aren't going to get many for $1000. The A-D players that played in this event, whom probably made up a bulk of the field, probably wouldn't put up $250 to play in that same tournament....

Christian
 
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Fart sniffer said:
The Seminole tribe is already planning on raising the entry fees and searching to branch out into different states. They are getting feedback from the players at every event to see what the consensus is, within 3 years this tour should be a totally different animal than it is now.

They have people on top of things now, the tournaments are being run better and there is a long term plan being formed. It may not be a million dollar tour, but we've all seen where those end up.
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All it takes is a LEGITIMATE business person to run it.
 
jimmy-leggs said:
All it takes is a LEGITIMATE business person to run it.
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Lots of legitimate businesses fail every year.
The mafia, however, has been in business for a long time.
 
BazookaJoe said:
Since most of the players are gamblers, they'd figure the odds, decide they were too high to spend $1000 on an entry fee, and split that up into two nickel sets where the odds are better.:D
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Well then,they will be on the outside looking in.
 
cmsmith9 said:
John Schmidt, one of the top 9 ball players in the country, a threat in any tournmament, requested someone to split his entry fee for the U.S. Open, and that was only $500. You aren't going to get many for $1000. The A-D players that played in this event, whom probably made up a bulk of the field, probably wouldn't put up $250 to play in that same tournament....

Christian
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John's stakehorse in the 2006 US Open put up $1,300 and split the winnings. That is not much when you think about the hotel, food, plane fare and entry fee.
Purdman
 
I gave up a carreer in the military to play pool.. Huge mistake. I could have retired by now. Pool payouts is pathetic face it, it is no more than a hobby anymore. Why do you think so many players are quiting, or resorting to selling drugs, ripping off carwashes, casinos and many other things. Only the top 20 players in the world are actually making money. Why don't you ask the promoters like Charlie Williams or Allen Hopkins how much they are making. I bet they are making much more than any pool player.
 
jimmy-leggs said:
I just read about the florida pro tour results and couldn't believe the payouts.They attract 78 pro players for probably 4-5 days and pay out chump change.
1ST 3,500
2ND 2,000
Something better happen for these guys and girls or they will be giving it up for real jobs.
sorry to vent but WOW.pathetic!:(
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What is the entryfee? And how many players get their entry back? That's the important thing...
 
jimmy-leggs said:
I just read about the florida pro tour results and couldn't believe the payouts.They attract 78 pro players for probably 4-5 days and pay out chump change.
1ST 3,500
2ND 2,000
Something better happen for these guys and girls or they will be giving it up for real jobs.
sorry to vent but WOW.pathetic!:(
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no they won't
 
pooldawg1 said:
I gave up a carreer in the military to play pool.. Huge mistake. I could have retired by now.
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Yep. You screwed up.

pooldawg1 said:
Pool payouts is pathetic face it, it is no more than a hobby anymore.
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Yes they is.

pooldawg1 said:
Why do you think so many players are quiting, or resorting to selling drugs, ripping off carwashes, casinos and many other things.
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Casinos? Who ripped off a casino.
Was Danny Ocean a pool player?

pooldawg1 said:
Only the top 20 players in the world are actually making money. Why don't you ask the promoters like Charlie Williams or Allen Hopkins how much they are making. I bet they are making much more than any pool player.
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First. They are both pool players.
Second. Why is it anyones business what they are making.
 
True..and his stakehorse made an excellent investment. But the A-D players that played in this event, might not have the luxury of a backer that John did.
 
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