This is what triggered it all!

Ed Simmons said:
....and I thought Fatboy was a bad speller! The guys in this thread make him look like Webster!
Compared to us, he should be a webster. :) Sorry about the link provided, it's a Filipino Pool Forum.
Some posts are Taglish (TAGalog-engLISH) which you can somewhat understand.
 
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Hope all goes well for the Filipino players, especially Efren because we now know he really sucks at Deal or No Deal! ...and I thought he was a gambler! :D :D :D :D
 
Ed Simmons said:
....and I thought Fatboy was a bad speller! The guys in this thread make him look like Webster!
Not what I pictured:
 

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The Senate inquiry is OVER.
BSCP/RAYA 's maltreatment, of Filipino Poolplayers is over.
Government financial support to their, BSCP/RAYA, events is over.
Corporate sponsorship, after the news about the Senate Hearing, will be over.
Their PPT event, after the loss of confidence from their allies in the government(PSC, POC and Senate) and private corporations, will most likely be over unless they finance it themselves to save face.

The World 10-Ball Championship and their dreams of 7 figure income from this plus the clout and fame that comes with it...........they can kiss it good-bye.

Mahirap humanap ng palusot para sa hinanaing nila Efren, Django, Gomez at mga luha ni Alcano! translation: It is hard to find an excuse for the complaints from Efren, Django, Gomez and the tears that Alcano shed!
 
Ronnie Alcano's parting words at the Senate Inquiry today!

Sabi ni Ronnie sa mga senador "World Champion ako na nagdala ng karangalan sa Pilipinas at respetado ako sa lahat mang bansang puntahan ko ngunit binastos nila, BSCP/RAYA/PBDF/STAR, ako dito sa aking sariling bansa!

Grabe! Nanginginig na sinasakal yung mikropono at lumuluha ang mga mata habang sinasabi ito!

Translation: Ronnie's last words at the Senate " I'm a World Champion who brought glory to the Philippines and respected everywhere in the world I go to yet they, BSCP/RAYA/PBDF/Star, disrespected me in my own country!

He said this while holding the microphone in his trembling hand and teary eyed.
 
bandido said:
The Senate inquiry is OVER.
BSCP/RAYA 's maltreatment, of Filipino Poolplayers is over.
Government financial support to their, BSCP/RAYA, events is over.
Corporate sponsorship, after the news about the Senate Hearing, will be over.
Their PPT event, after the loss of confidence from their allies in the government(PSC, POC and Senate) and private corporations, will most likely be over unless they finance it themselves to save face.

The World 10-Ball Championship and their dreams of 7 figure income from this plus the clout and fame that comes with it...........they can kiss it good-bye.

Mahirap humanap ng palusot para sa hinanaing nila Efren, Django, Gomez at mga luha ni Alcano! translation: It is hard to find an excuse for the complaints from Efren, Django, Gomez and the tears that Alcano shed!

So I guess their next event (Puerto Princesa) is almost a goner, unless they cough up from amongst themselves.
It was good while it lasted, no more sure fire money making scheme without any financial risk for these opportunists.

Is there a possibility that the BMPAP can assume the responsibility of making the World 10-Ball Championships a reality?
Can that happen? Specially if you guys can get financial backing from a giant company like San Miguel?

Hope you can make it happen guys!
 
detailed account

Here's a detailed account of what transpired in the Senate Inquiry this morning as interpreted by sputnik of matchroomsportforums.

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sputnik
Philippines
309 Posts
Posted - 28/05/2008 : 11:31:56
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Day one of the Senate inquiry did not go as BSCP expected it to go. They wanted to discredit GAB and they did not get anywhere near it.

After the Senators and the GAB and sports personalities spoke, it was BSCP's Yen Makabenta's turn.

Yen started off in reading his rhetoric like he was one of the senators. He spoke with a conviction of a seasoned politician in his now usual coat and tie. He did not embark from his published article on the position of BCSP against GAB (I think he read out his article verbatim). Everyone knew what he was talking about and had readied counter-attacks on them. Makabenta did not mention anything that he had not written about in AZBilliards. He obviously felt on top of his crusade with his deliberate parsing of his words.

It was as if someone needed to applaud after he spoke, but there was silence -- perhaps in relief of a long boring statement's ending.

Instead, all he got was flack from the senators.

In his barrage of questions, Senator Nene Pimentel mixed humor and cross examination to relax Makabenta. He started with qualifying the accusation of BSCP in GAB's "interfering" with BSCP's business when BSCP feels that it should not. Then he started pinning down Makabenta saying that everything was about a five letter word: M-O-N-E-Y. He asked about the P10 Million that was given by PAGCOR but both Fajardo and Makabenta initially denied receiving it. Not until Pimentel reminded them that they were under oath did Makabenta admit receiving the money as "sponsorship". In an open-ended conclusion, Pimentel suggested that this should be looked into in further investigations and he mentioned wanting to see financial statements.

Ouch!

Then it was Senator Lacson's turn. Known to be close to Mr. Sebastian Chua, all that Lacson could do after seeing the picture being painted was to excuse himself from the investigation. He knew that he would not look good having to defend BSCP.

Ouch!

Senator Gringo Honasan, chair or the investigating committee, then focused on the structure of the associations. Honasan made no conclusions as he was analyzing the situation. Honasan asked Efren Bata to talk about why they were in the inquiry (together with Django, Alcano, and Gomez). Efren said he was there to assure that the younger players will not be deprived of their chance to make it to big time pool. Efren also explained why the pros need GAB (as everyone knows, he himself is a victim of big time non-payment) and how GAB helps in acquiring travel visas in the different embassies.

GAB chairman Eric Buhain testified that he did not single out BSCP among other sports and other organizations. Buhain said that he merely acted on a complaint filed by some players against BSCP. Buhain also showed forms of Makabenta's membership in GAB in 2006 and 2007 and asked why suddenly in 2008, Makabenta does not believe that GAB should exercise its mandate of policing errants, specifically BSCP.

There was a common sentiment among agency chiefs: there is no issue in both BMPAP and BSCP handling simultaneous events because that is good for the pool player.

Then came Senator Allan Cayetano. Again focus was put into Makabenta's conflict of interest positions in heading bothe BSCP and Raya Sports. Philippine Olympic Committee Peping Cojuanco had no choice but to admit that indeed, no other NSA is in the same situation as Billiards where blatant conflict of interest is practiced.

Again back to the P10 Million, Cayetano diverted his questioning to Fajardo. In a convinient washing of hands, Fajardo cited that he was BSCP chair until Makabenta came in and brought in Raya and then Makabenta accepted the money from PAGCOR.

Puyat, gentleman as he is, stuck with the issues in expressing the need of GAB to be around. But Perry Mariano was straight to the point. He hit Makabenta's conflict of interest in both positions and actions. Perry directly accused Makabenta of indiscriminate handling of quotas from APBU and other tournaments who ask for player line-ups (apparently, Qatar asked for 15 players and BSCP had it all figured out and submitted). Perry then asked the players to talk again. This was when world champion Ronnie Alcano, with tears in his eyes, narrated how he was driven out of the gates of Star Paper in a qualifier that BSCP said was open to all players.

Joke of the day is when Makabenta asked for Edgar Acaba to speak out his sentiments. Acaba ended with saying that others want to remain amateur, others want to be pros. "I declare myself... a player!"

At the end, Makabenta did not look as cocky as when he made his opening speech. His shoulders had dropped into the horror that had backlashed on him: a senate investigation of where the money went. His voice quivered and his hands started to tremble.

Fajardo slouched back in his seat in horrified body language. In the audience back row, Chua seemed to be oblivious of what was transpiring in a poker face capable of wiping all the chips off the table. And Baranda, also in the back row, was slouched on his side with his hands on his face. He knew that there will be more senate investigations.

When Senator Honasan ended the session, all BMPAP supporters and many of the media people clapped their hands as all the BSCP people unceremoniously left the room, save for Makabenta, who propped himself up again against the cameras for an interview.

Nothing can prove BSCP's stupidity more than this senate investigation that they themselves requested. This is over P800 (Eight Hundred Pesos) that BSCP refused GAB of in a P1,000,000.00 tournament. Throwing all their cards on the table weeks before the investigation proved suicidal, especially because they did not have anything new to say. It was very unintelligent of them not to expect the whole army of BMPAP in he hearing. All they had were over-the-hillers Acaba and Andam.

Fajardo and Cojuanco put some distance from Makabenta in their not wanting to have anything to do with the P10 Million. Only Makabenta admitted to receiving the money. Remember that this 10 Million Pesos was first mentioned by Edwin Reyes months ago and was referred to by the BSCP as a baseless accusation.

Entering the Senate, Perry smiled at me and said: "May 28, 2008... this is a good day to kick some ass. Let's see what they will have to say in their text messages after this". As he went past Baranda and Makabenta, he greeted them by taking note of their coats and ties with specific contrast to his slippers. Perry was in a polo shirt with a jacket over it and in faded jeans... and slippers indeed! But what Perry, Putch and Edwin wore throughout that session was far more elegant than their counterparts': a huge smile on their faces.

What is next in the Senate is anti-climactic. BSCP had it coming in erroneously antagonizing GAB just because BMPAP affiliated itself with GAB in setting a Pro identity.

What is next outside of the Senate is what I heard from a little bird: some players had already formally brought BSCP to court for deprivation of potential earnings in tournament where they were barred from joining in lieu of BSCP's authoritarian selection of their own players. I believe that there are also intentions of filing libel and corruption cases in process.

World 10 Ball? After all the bad media... with no local stars... with the news that Archer was not paid and that they faltered in their payment to Matchroom... I highly doubt it materializing.
 
They can still have the BSCP with new management. As for Raya Sports, all it can do is bid for the rights to organized the tour. BMPAP is not a member of World Pool, the government should creat a new one or a new management.
 
Thanks for the news!

"Perry the Pocket" is my hero ;)

linds said:
Here's a detailed account of what transpired in the Senate Inquiry this morning as interpreted by sputnik of matchroomsportforums.

Author Topic
sputnik
Philippines
309 Posts
Posted - 28/05/2008 : 11:31:56
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Day one of the Senate inquiry did not go as BSCP expected it to go. They wanted to discredit GAB and they did not get anywhere near it.

After the Senators and the GAB and sports personalities spoke, it was BSCP's Yen Makabenta's turn.

Yen started off in reading his rhetoric like he was one of the senators. He spoke with a conviction of a seasoned politician in his now usual coat and tie. He did not embark from his published article on the position of BCSP against GAB (I think he read out his article verbatim). Everyone knew what he was talking about and had readied counter-attacks on them. Makabenta did not mention anything that he had not written about in AZBilliards. He obviously felt on top of his crusade with his deliberate parsing of his words.

It was as if someone needed to applaud after he spoke, but there was silence -- perhaps in relief of a long boring statement's ending.

Instead, all he got was flack from the senators.

In his barrage of questions, Senator Nene Pimentel mixed humor and cross examination to relax Makabenta. He started with qualifying the accusation of BSCP in GAB's "interfering" with BSCP's business when BSCP feels that it should not. Then he started pinning down Makabenta saying that everything was about a five letter word: M-O-N-E-Y. He asked about the P10 Million that was given by PAGCOR but both Fajardo and Makabenta initially denied receiving it. Not until Pimentel reminded them that they were under oath did Makabenta admit receiving the money as "sponsorship". In an open-ended conclusion, Pimentel suggested that this should be looked into in further investigations and he mentioned wanting to see financial statements.

Ouch!

Then it was Senator Lacson's turn. Known to be close to Mr. Sebastian Chua, all that Lacson could do after seeing the picture being painted was to excuse himself from the investigation. He knew that he would not look good having to defend BSCP.

Ouch!

Senator Gringo Honasan, chair or the investigating committee, then focused on the structure of the associations. Honasan made no conclusions as he was analyzing the situation. Honasan asked Efren Bata to talk about why they were in the inquiry (together with Django, Alcano, and Gomez). Efren said he was there to assure that the younger players will not be deprived of their chance to make it to big time pool. Efren also explained why the pros need GAB (as everyone knows, he himself is a victim of big time non-payment) and how GAB helps in acquiring travel visas in the different embassies.

GAB chairman Eric Buhain testified that he did not single out BSCP among other sports and other organizations. Buhain said that he merely acted on a complaint filed by some players against BSCP. Buhain also showed forms of Makabenta's membership in GAB in 2006 and 2007 and asked why suddenly in 2008, Makabenta does not believe that GAB should exercise its mandate of policing errants, specifically BSCP.

There was a common sentiment among agency chiefs: there is no issue in both BMPAP and BSCP handling simultaneous events because that is good for the pool player.

Then came Senator Allan Cayetano. Again focus was put into Makabenta's conflict of interest positions in heading bothe BSCP and Raya Sports. Philippine Olympic Committee Peping Cojuanco had no choice but to admit that indeed, no other NSA is in the same situation as Billiards where blatant conflict of interest is practiced.

Again back to the P10 Million, Cayetano diverted his questioning to Fajardo. In a convinient washing of hands, Fajardo cited that he was BSCP chair until Makabenta came in and brought in Raya and then Makabenta accepted the money from PAGCOR.

Puyat, gentleman as he is, stuck with the issues in expressing the need of GAB to be around. But Perry Mariano was straight to the point. He hit Makabenta's conflict of interest in both positions and actions. Perry directly accused Makabenta of indiscriminate handling of quotas from APBU and other tournaments who ask for player line-ups (apparently, Qatar asked for 15 players and BSCP had it all figured out and submitted). Perry then asked the players to talk again. This was when world champion Ronnie Alcano, with tears in his eyes, narrated how he was driven out of the gates of Star Paper in a qualifier that BSCP said was open to all players.

Joke of the day is when Makabenta asked for Edgar Acaba to speak out his sentiments. Acaba ended with saying that others want to remain amateur, others want to be pros. "I declare myself... a player!"

At the end, Makabenta did not look as cocky as when he made his opening speech. His shoulders had dropped into the horror that had backlashed on him: a senate investigation of where the money went. His voice quivered and his hands started to tremble.

Fajardo slouched back in his seat in horrified body language. In the audience back row, Chua seemed to be oblivious of what was transpiring in a poker face capable of wiping all the chips off the table. And Baranda, also in the back row, was slouched on his side with his hands on his face. He knew that there will be more senate investigations.

When Senator Honasan ended the session, all BMPAP supporters and many of the media people clapped their hands as all the BSCP people unceremoniously left the room, save for Makabenta, who propped himself up again against the cameras for an interview.

Nothing can prove BSCP's stupidity more than this senate investigation that they themselves requested. This is over P800 (Eight Hundred Pesos) that BSCP refused GAB of in a P1,000,000.00 tournament. Throwing all their cards on the table weeks before the investigation proved suicidal, especially because they did not have anything new to say. It was very unintelligent of them not to expect the whole army of BMPAP in he hearing. All they had were over-the-hillers Acaba and Andam.

Fajardo and Cojuanco put some distance from Makabenta in their not wanting to have anything to do with the P10 Million. Only Makabenta admitted to receiving the money. Remember that this 10 Million Pesos was first mentioned by Edwin Reyes months ago and was referred to by the BSCP as a baseless accusation.

Entering the Senate, Perry smiled at me and said: "May 28, 2008... this is a good day to kick some ass. Let's see what they will have to say in their text messages after this". As he went past Baranda and Makabenta, he greeted them by taking note of their coats and ties with specific contrast to his slippers. Perry was in a polo shirt with a jacket over it and in faded jeans... and slippers indeed! But what Perry, Putch and Edwin wore throughout that session was far more elegant than their counterparts': a huge smile on their faces.

What is next in the Senate is anti-climactic. BSCP had it coming in erroneously antagonizing GAB just because BMPAP affiliated itself with GAB in setting a Pro identity.

What is next outside of the Senate is what I heard from a little bird: some players had already formally brought BSCP to court for deprivation of potential earnings in tournament where they were barred from joining in lieu of BSCP's authoritarian selection of their own players. I believe that there are also intentions of filing libel and corruption cases in process.

World 10 Ball? After all the bad media... with no local stars... with the news that Archer was not paid and that they faltered in their payment to Matchroom... I highly doubt it materializing.
 
parvus1202 said:
Archer was not paid?? I thought it only happens in America. No offence mates.



I'm guessing it was all expenses paid and some appearance money for Archer,
so $400 dollars isn't much of a loss, but we're talking about BSCP/Raya Sports
here, so I'm not surprised...

This is the usual standard practice of Putch Puyat when he used to do invitational
tournaments back then. All expenses paid plus some appreciation money which usually
passes under the table and Nick, Johnny, Mika, Earl, Marcus and a host of other foreign
guys can attest to that...
 
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bandido said:
The Senate inquiry is OVER.
BSCP/RAYA 's maltreatment, of Filipino Poolplayers is over.
Government financial support to their, BSCP/RAYA, events is over.
Corporate sponsorship, after the news about the Senate Hearing, will be over.
Their PPT event, after the loss of confidence from their allies in the government(PSC, POC and Senate) and private corporations, will most likely be over unless they finance it themselves to save face.

The World 10-Ball Championship and their dreams of 7 figure income from this plus the clout and fame that comes with it...........they can kiss it good-bye.

Mahirap humanap ng palusot para sa hinanaing nila Efren, Django, Gomez at mga luha ni Alcano! translation: It is hard to find an excuse for the complaints from Efren, Django, Gomez and the tears that Alcano shed!

is it the first hearing? if it is... its like a 1st round knock-out :D
 
vin said:
is it the first hearing? if it is... its like a 1st round knock-out :D
The Senate transcript for this inquiry, being a public record, has been requested and will be published in local dailies. The video coverage too is being tracked and will be shown as footages in a sports show on a local channel where some guests will comment on said video clips.

Those video clips will be so funny as you'll see the BSCP guys fancy-footing around the 10M Pesos question and finally being reminded that they are under oath. It will also show how Makabenta and Fajardo was slowly sliding down their seats as the 10M issue was being discussed and during the players turn at the mic. Covering their faces with their hands and Fajardo suddenly leaning back on his chair and running his fingers through his hair in disbelief of his inadvertent mention of "RAYA" in his statement. Not sure if it shows Tony Baranda, who's seated a few feet behind Makabenta and Fajardo, having both his hands covering his face but I'm sure that we'll soon find out.

Funny thing too is that while we're having lunch, on a 30-persons long table and everybody in a party mood, at the Sofitel Philippine Plaza Hotel Makabenta, Baranda, Chua and Diokno walks in to have theirs too but in dark secluded table on the other side of a thick concrete wall. Where was Fajardo the snitch?

It's great to see all the happy faces and hear the laughter and though Perry and I shared a joke or two between us I can tell that our minds were in what's to come next. Bring it on!
 
bandido said:
The Senate transcript for this inquiry, being a public record, has been requested and will be published in local dailies. The video coverage too is being tracked and will be shown as footages in a sports show on a local channel where some guests will comment on said video clips.

Those video clips will be so funny as you'll see the BSCP guys fancy-footing around the 10M Pesos question and finally being reminded that they are under oath. It will also show how Makabenta and Fajardo was slowly sliding down their seats as the 10M issue was being discussed and during the players turn at the mic. Covering their faces with their hands and Fajardo suddenly leaning back on his chair and running his fingers through his hair in disbelief of his inadvertent mention of "RAYA" in his statement. Not sure if it shows Tony Baranda, who's seated a few feet behind Makabenta and Fajardo, having both his hands covering his face but I'm sure that we'll soon find out.

Funny thing too is that while we're having lunch, on a 30-persons long table and everybody in a party mood, at the Sofitel Philippine Plaza Hotel Makabenta, Baranda, Chua and Diokno walks in to have theirs too but in dark secluded table on the other side of a thick concrete wall. Where was Fajardo the snitch?

It's great to see all the happy faces and hear the laughter and though Perry and I shared a joke or two between us I can tell that our minds were in what's to come next. Bring it on!

what channel and when? cant wait to see this :cool:
 
Ed Simmons said:
....and I thought Fatboy was a bad speller! The guys in this thread make him look like Webster!



man this is bad for my reputation, I want to be #1 at something, I cant beat SVB playing pool, I cant get Tooth to flip a coin. Man I suck. :(
 
Fatboy said:
man this is bad for my reputation, I want to be #1 at something, I cant beat SVB playing pool, I cant get Tooth to flip a coin. Man I suck. :(




7.62 posts a day isn't a record around this neck of the woods???
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Just having fun Eric!
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Another good post by sputnik in matchroom sport forums:

sputnik
Philippines
312 Posts
Posted - 29/05/2008 : 07:16:33
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By the way, the way Makabenta ridiculed the law that gives GAB mandate in his State of the Nation Address was truly condescending to the lawmakers who legislated that law. At the end of Senator Nene Pimentel's inquiry, the senator swiftly mentioned that he authored the law that Makabenta desecrated.

Ouch!

Makabenta also openly accused GAB Chairman and two-time olympian Eric Buhain of unfairly and unusually interfering with BSCP's affairs (with matching pause and glance at Buhain). In the end, the senators firmly sided with Buhain.

Ouch!

The stupidity in Makabenta's statements are truly amazing... also very entertaining.
 
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