This is why I'm not a fan of gambling with people i dont know.

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I'm down the snooker hall by my self just passing some time playing some UK 8 Ball. It was fairly busy and I kept feeling like someone had their eyes on me. Most likely because I'm by my self just playing the ghost, playing massively aggressive pool and not playing very well. This kid, and I mean just a kid he was about 17/ 18ish asks if I want a game. I agree and we played maybe 4 or 5 games and he stank. Couldn't make a ball. He then asks to play for money. I expected him to say like £1 a game seeing as he sucked so bad but he said £10 a game and I'm not really into stealing candy from a baby so I thought I'll play but I'm so far ahead of him ability-wise I can fudge a few games and make it even at the end. I did and he played awful. One of the games took like 15mins because i didn't want to win it but he just couldn't pot 2 consecutive balls.

This set ended with me being £10 up and I was just going to say pay for the lights to the kid which was about £6ish and call it even. Then he throws a bombshell my way and wants to play for £50 race to 3. I was like show me the £50 and we can play. He pulls out this wallet that was bursting at the seems. He easily had £500 in there. And it just hit me that something wasn't quite right. He had a nice cue, his fundamentals looked decent and he came here with a wallet full of cash. I'm thinking game on at this point. We play and his level of play went up ten fold. He broke and ran the first rack and I was sitting there thinking I've been done over here. My turn came to break and I broke and ran that game, he broke dry and I ran out and then I hit a monster break making 5 balls at the right time and ran the final game out. He then says double or quits? F*ck that I thought because we will eventually break even. I asked how much he could afford to lose and we can play a set for that amount. He comes back and says £1500. I'm like what the fuuuuu.... How can a kid his age afford to lose that much!? I just replied with rack 'em up.

We decided on a first to 11 games. At this point the kid thought he had seen my top level, but he hadn't and unfortunately for him I'd seen his and I'm a bit more experienced and picked up on what he was good at and what he wasn't and used it to my advantage. I hit 5th gear right away and ran away with the set. 11-4 it ended. Time for the kid to pay up. He says he doesn't have the whole £1500 on him which is to be expected so I offered to take him to the bank. He declined and said he would give me what he had in his wallet which turned out to be £690. Seeing as its not even half I wasn't having any of it. I took the cash, his watch which is quite nice and worth a few hundred but most importantly I took his cue. My cue is priceless to me and if I was in his situation id go to the bank and pay up just to get my cue back. So, I kept hold of his cue thinking he would come back. The kid never came back. He couldn't afford to lose £1500. Id rather he just said I can afford to lose what ever is in my wallet. I'm sure he will use this as a lesson learned and grow from it but a couple of reasons why I took the money off a kid are as follows...

Firstly, I didn't like his style. Playing so bad and then switching it up when the money got bigger I class as a bad move. Shows no respect to me and he probably thought I've seen this guy play and he he isn't playing very well so I'll chance it against him. If he just came out and said look, I'm a good player do you want to play for some money id have more respect for him and may have let him keep the cue and watch.

Secondly, he tried doing a runner a few times which I forgot to mention. He was 8-2 down and he kept wanting to go to the bathroom, which is fine but he didn't need to take his cue. So I told him to leave the cue and wallet down at the table if he were to leave the room. Its something I do automatically when playing for money with randomers and something I expect others to do.

So yeah, this is why I don't really like playing for money with people i don't know. They try to deceive you, they lie, they show no sign of respect and rarely pay up when the stakes get high. I'll stick to playing with people who I know are good for the cash in future I think.
 
Just be glad you outran it! You could have been on the other side of it and lost and paid the full amount up. That's the part that has to sting. Make them post, if it doesn't seem right, play for what you have and let them match that on the lesser amount. Tough call, glad you made it out okay.
 
Not being a pool gambler, let me as a dumb question: Shouldn't you each post $1500 up on the light so you avoid any underpayment later?
 
I agree with most of what you said except your criticism of him not showing his top level from the beginning. You admitted that you also weren't playing your top gear. To accuse him of not having respect, the same would hold for you.
 
He watched "The Color of Money" too many times.

What kind of cue and watch did you win? Anything good?
 
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You shoulda took is coat and hat as well then give him $5 for a bowl of soup and the bus ride home.
How much is the merchandise you got worth ?



Rob.M

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I'm down the snooker hall by my self just passing some time playing some UK 8 Ball. It was fairly busy and I kept feeling like someone had their eyes on me. Most likely because I'm by my self just playing the ghost, playing massively aggressive pool and not playing very well. This kid, and I mean just a kid he was about 17/ 18ish asks if I want a game. I agree and we played maybe 4 or 5 games and he stank. Couldn't make a ball. He then asks to play for money. I expected him to say like £1 a game seeing as he sucked so bad but he said £10 a game and I'm not really into stealing candy from a baby so I thought I'll play but I'm so far ahead of him ability-wise I can fudge a few games and make it even at the end. I did and he played awful. One of the games took like 15mins because i didn't want to win it but he just couldn't pot 2 consecutive balls.

This set ended with me being £10 up and I was just going to say pay for the lights to the kid which was about £6ish and call it even. Then he throws a bombshell my way and wants to play for £50 race to 3. I was like show me the £50 and we can play. He pulls out this wallet that was bursting at the seems. He easily had £500 in there. And it just hit me that something wasn't quite right. He had a nice cue, his fundamentals looked decent and he came here with a wallet full of cash. I'm thinking game on at this point. We play and his level of play went up ten fold. He broke and ran the first rack and I was sitting there thinking I've been done over here. My turn came to break and I broke and ran that game, he broke dry and I ran out and then I hit a monster break making 5 balls at the right time and ran the final game out. He then says double or quits? F*ck that I thought because we will eventually break even. I asked how much he could afford to lose and we can play a set for that amount. He comes back and says £1500. I'm like what the fuuuuu.... How can a kid his age afford to lose that much!? I just replied with rack 'em up.

We decided on a first to 11 games. At this point the kid thought he had seen my top level, but he hadn't and unfortunately for him I'd seen his and I'm a bit more experienced and picked up on what he was good at and what he wasn't and used it to my advantage. I hit 5th gear right away and ran away with the set. 11-4 it ended. Time for the kid to pay up. He says he doesn't have the whole £1500 on him which is to be expected so I offered to take him to the bank. He declined and said he would give me what he had in his wallet which turned out to be £690. Seeing as its not even half I wasn't having any of it. I took the cash, his watch which is quite nice and worth a few hundred but most importantly I took his cue. My cue is priceless to me and if I was in his situation id go to the bank and pay up just to get my cue back. So, I kept hold of his cue thinking he would come back. The kid never came back. He couldn't afford to lose £1500. Id rather he just said I can afford to lose what ever is in my wallet. I'm sure he will use this as a lesson learned and grow from it but a couple of reasons why I took the money off a kid are as follows...

Firstly, I didn't like his style. Playing so bad and then switching it up when the money got bigger I class as a bad move. Shows no respect to me and he probably thought I've seen this guy play and he he isn't playing very well so I'll chance it against him. If he just came out and said look, I'm a good player do you want to play for some money id have more respect for him and may have let him keep the cue and watch.

Secondly, he tried doing a runner a few times which I forgot to mention. He was 8-2 down and he kept wanting to go to the bathroom, which is fine but he didn't need to take his cue. So I told him to leave the cue and wallet down at the table if he were to leave the room. Its something I do automatically when playing for money with randomers and something I expect others to do.

So yeah, this is why I don't really like playing for money with people i don't know. They try to deceive you, they lie, they show no sign of respect and rarely pay up when the stakes get high. I'll stick to playing with people who I know are good for the cash in future I think.
 
Tell us about the watch!


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Great pool story!
Well ... that sort of stuff comes with the game.
If you gamble you can expect a few bad apples trying to get the best of you anyway they can.
Its a good thing you have been around the block a few times and was able to shoot your way out of what the kid thought was a trap for you.
I do not play for much more than $5 cause I stink as a player.
But almost everyone that I know who plays for high stakes always posts the bet before the game.
It just works out better that way.

Willee
 
Guy can't pot 2 consecutive shots but then suggests we play for money? My answer is "no".
 
I agree with most of what you said except your criticism of him not showing his top level from the beginning. You admitted that you also weren't playing your top gear. To accuse him of not having respect, the same would hold for you.
Yeah that's true but I was actually trying. When I was playing the ghost with him oggling me from across the room I was just playing badly, but trying to really show the ghost who is boss. When we played for £10 I played good one from then to let him catch up I played poor the next. I thought he would've had enough common sense to notice I was trying to be nice to him and not letting him get too deep. He saw what my top level was like, and chose to play for the money so although I see where you are coming from, I wasn't trying to pull the wool over his eyes and I felt that's what he tried doing to me.

To answer some other questions...

The money on the light, anywhere on view left with the barmaid will get you in deep doo doo with the owner. He doesn't have any of that. Since I had no one to keep hold of the money and he didn't we kept onto it ourselves.

The cue is probably worth about £250-400 if I sold it. I'm not a cue collector so I'm a little unsure on the pricing. I know a few who know all there is to know about pool cues so I'll have to check with them. I think I will keep hold of the cue for the time being on the off chance the kid shows his face again. He can have the cue back, for free but I just want to have a little chat and offer some advice. If you want to get action walk upto someone and just put it out there that you're a very good player. Peoples egos cant resist the challenge and you get to see peoples ability straight away and can judge if you have the upper hand or not.
 
Your final bet was over $2,000.00..............your end.........

Where I come from, stranger or not, even a well know pool player, that kind of dough gets POSTED, meaning, the wager of both players is placed in the hands of someone who can be trusted and the winner collect the two wagers.

I don't like his style either but in the future, if I were you, I would require the wager to be posted. Still a pretty good win. Hold the cue and watch for a month at least, in case the kid wants them back.

JoeyA

I'm down the snooker hall by my self just passing some time playing some UK 8 Ball. It was fairly busy and I kept feeling like someone had their eyes on me. Most likely because I'm by my self just playing the ghost, playing massively aggressive pool and not playing very well. This kid, and I mean just a kid he was about 17/ 18ish asks if I want a game. I agree and we played maybe 4 or 5 games and he stank. Couldn't make a ball. He then asks to play for money. I expected him to say like £1 a game seeing as he sucked so bad but he said £10 a game and I'm not really into stealing candy from a baby so I thought I'll play but I'm so far ahead of him ability-wise I can fudge a few games and make it even at the end. I did and he played awful. One of the games took like 15mins because i didn't want to win it but he just couldn't pot 2 consecutive balls.

This set ended with me being £10 up and I was just going to say pay for the lights to the kid which was about £6ish and call it even. Then he throws a bombshell my way and wants to play for £50 race to 3. I was like show me the £50 and we can play. He pulls out this wallet that was bursting at the seems. He easily had £500 in there. And it just hit me that something wasn't quite right. He had a nice cue, his fundamentals looked decent and he came here with a wallet full of cash. I'm thinking game on at this point. We play and his level of play went up ten fold. He broke and ran the first rack and I was sitting there thinking I've been done over here. My turn came to break and I broke and ran that game, he broke dry and I ran out and then I hit a monster break making 5 balls at the right time and ran the final game out. He then says double or quits? F*ck that I thought because we will eventually break even. I asked how much he could afford to lose and we can play a set for that amount. He comes back and says £1500. I'm like what the fuuuuu.... How can a kid his age afford to lose that much!? I just replied with rack 'em up.

We decided on a first to 11 games. At this point the kid thought he had seen my top level, but he hadn't and unfortunately for him I'd seen his and I'm a bit more experienced and picked up on what he was good at and what he wasn't and used it to my advantage. I hit 5th gear right away and ran away with the set. 11-4 it ended. Time for the kid to pay up. He says he doesn't have the whole £1500 on him which is to be expected so I offered to take him to the bank. He declined and said he would give me what he had in his wallet which turned out to be £690. Seeing as its not even half I wasn't having any of it. I took the cash, his watch which is quite nice and worth a few hundred but most importantly I took his cue. My cue is priceless to me and if I was in his situation id go to the bank and pay up just to get my cue back. So, I kept hold of his cue thinking he would come back. The kid never came back. He couldn't afford to lose £1500. Id rather he just said I can afford to lose what ever is in my wallet. I'm sure he will use this as a lesson learned and grow from it but a couple of reasons why I took the money off a kid are as follows...

Firstly, I didn't like his style. Playing so bad and then switching it up when the money got bigger I class as a bad move. Shows no respect to me and he probably thought I've seen this guy play and he he isn't playing very well so I'll chance it against him. If he just came out and said look, I'm a good player do you want to play for some money id have more respect for him and may have let him keep the cue and watch.

Secondly, he tried doing a runner a few times which I forgot to mention. He was 8-2 down and he kept wanting to go to the bathroom, which is fine but he didn't need to take his cue. So I told him to leave the cue and wallet down at the table if he were to leave the room. Its something I do automatically when playing for money with randomers and something I expect others to do.

So yeah, this is why I don't really like playing for money with people i don't know. They try to deceive you, they lie, they show no sign of respect and rarely pay up when the stakes get high. I'll stick to playing with people who I know are good for the cash in future I think.
 
Your final bet was over $2,000.00..............your end.........

Where I come from, stranger or not, even a well know pool player, that kind of dough gets POSTED, meaning, the wager of both players is placed in the hands of someone who can be trusted and the winner collect the two wagers.

I don't like his style either but in the future, if I were you, I would require the wager to be posted. Still a pretty good win. Hold the cue and watch for a month at least, in case the kid wants them back.

JoeyA

With today's people, I even make them post $20. Joey, you know as well as I do, for a few grand, somebody's got muscle hanging around too.
 
After I posted, I see that others suggested posting money as well.

If no one is present that can be trusted to hold the two wagers, I tell my opponent that I will hold the two bets. If he balks, I tell him no thanks and find something else to do.

JoeyA
 
Your final bet was over $2,000.00..............your end.........

Where I come from, stranger or not, even a well know pool player, that kind of dough gets POSTED, meaning, the wager of both players is placed in the hands of someone who can be trusted and the winner collect the two wagers.

I don't like his style either but in the future, if I were you, I would require the wager to be posted. Still a pretty good win. Hold the cue and watch for a month at least, in case the kid wants them back.

JoeyA
No body I know holds that kind of money on them. Its rare to see anyone with that amount the kid had in his wallet. I told him what I had in my wallet before we started, and said he could accompany me to the bank and he said he would go to the bank because he didn't have that much on him either. Maybe a bit of naivety on my part, I'm not a big time gambler by any means so it goes down as a lesson learned on my part too. Fortunately this babyfaced kid chose the right person. A lot of thuggish kinds at this pool hall and he can count himself lucky I'm not into that kind of thing.
 
Anyone that tries to shark a player is a little ***** to begin with.

If you think you are good enough to beat someone then offer up the terms and play to beat them.

Anyone that knows they are being sharked and plays a second time after the person raises the stakes anyway is a moron.
 
Anyone that tries to shark a player is a little ***** to begin with.

If you think you are good enough to beat someone then offer up the terms and play to beat them.

Anyone that knows they are being sharked and plays a second time after the person raises the stakes anyway is a moron.
I must be a moron. Fortunately for this moron he can play and compete with the best of the best if the situation calls for it.

It all comes down to fun at the end of the day. I had fun, I risked what some might consider too much on fun, but if I can afford to lose a set amount and have fun in the process then I see it as a productive afternoon.
 
that sucks but i think getting almost 700 plus his watch n cue is decent try this one out

IM at the US BAr table championships last week
there is a a guy barking at everyone actually has "action" tattooed on his arm. we play 9 ball cheap set for 40 i lose the first two sets and he insists we pay up aafter 2 sets i said ok, i was a little tipsy and having fun and told him i cant beat him without a spot, hegives me the 8 i win next 2 sets so we break even

me an my friend go back n forth plaaying him all week got his name Carlos from Oregon, seemed cool guy, he actually took my pal for 100 and no big deaal he paid up
on the thursday he wants to play me 8 ball which im glad because is my best game we teeter back n forth until the best gets up to race to 5 for 150. i win 5-1. time to close up he goes to atm apparently comes back and saays he has withdrew his limit for the day therefore will get me tomorrow.

i think it is fine as he has been there everyday and night and we played constantly was hoping to play more

well he doesnt show up the next 2 days and finally track him down and he says he been sick and will meet me sunday night to give me the cash

he doesnt show up i try to call/text him twice and no reply, so even for a measly 150 people will still pull a move, sucks but if his reputation is worth 150 then speaks for itself
 
There's nothing I don't like about this story.

Over-confident kid, has some cash and thinks his sh** doesn't stink. He picks a target, puts the "moves" on him and it completely backfires.

He can't cover (sadly expected), but you were the bigger man. Didn't threaten, or hurt him, but cleaned him out and also took the watch and cue.

The only thing I wouldn't have done different was take his jacket (if he had one) and shoes. Having a plan go all wrong is one thing... but having a plan go all wrong and have to go home cold, with no shoes just might stick an exclamation point onto the lesson you taught him.

Thanks for sharing!


Cheers,

Mike
 
Seriously, another wah thread?

Who in the world besides you and 2 or 3 other posters on here plays a set without putting the money up?

Give me what you got in your wallet? I'll take that watch?

Karma's a ***** if that watch is stolen or if the cue was stolen and you decided upon yourself to take it as a payment.

I'm down the snooker hall by my self just passing some time playing some UK 8 Ball. It was fairly busy and I kept feeling like someone had their eyes on me. Most likely because I'm by my self just playing the ghost, playing massively aggressive pool and not playing very well. This kid, and I mean just a kid he was about 17/ 18ish asks if I want a game. I agree and we played maybe 4 or 5 games and he stank. Couldn't make a ball. He then asks to play for money. I expected him to say like £1 a game seeing as he sucked so bad but he said £10 a game and I'm not really into stealing candy from a baby so I thought I'll play but I'm so far ahead of him ability-wise I can fudge a few games and make it even at the end. I did and he played awful. One of the games took like 15mins because i didn't want to win it but he just couldn't pot 2 consecutive balls.

This set ended with me being £10 up and I was just going to say pay for the lights to the kid which was about £6ish and call it even. Then he throws a bombshell my way and wants to play for £50 race to 3. I was like show me the £50 and we can play. He pulls out this wallet that was bursting at the seems. He easily had £500 in there. And it just hit me that something wasn't quite right. He had a nice cue, his fundamentals looked decent and he came here with a wallet full of cash. I'm thinking game on at this point. We play and his level of play went up ten fold. He broke and ran the first rack and I was sitting there thinking I've been done over here. My turn came to break and I broke and ran that game, he broke dry and I ran out and then I hit a monster break making 5 balls at the right time and ran the final game out. He then says double or quits? F*ck that I thought because we will eventually break even. I asked how much he could afford to lose and we can play a set for that amount. He comes back and says £1500. I'm like what the fuuuuu.... How can a kid his age afford to lose that much!? I just replied with rack 'em up.

We decided on a first to 11 games. At this point the kid thought he had seen my top level, but he hadn't and unfortunately for him I'd seen his and I'm a bit more experienced and picked up on what he was good at and what he wasn't and used it to my advantage. I hit 5th gear right away and ran away with the set. 11-4 it ended. Time for the kid to pay up. He says he doesn't have the whole £1500 on him which is to be expected so I offered to take him to the bank. He declined and said he would give me what he had in his wallet which turned out to be £690. Seeing as its not even half I wasn't having any of it. I took the cash, his watch which is quite nice and worth a few hundred but most importantly I took his cue. My cue is priceless to me and if I was in his situation id go to the bank and pay up just to get my cue back. So, I kept hold of his cue thinking he would come back. The kid never came back. He couldn't afford to lose £1500. Id rather he just said I can afford to lose what ever is in my wallet. I'm sure he will use this as a lesson learned and grow from it but a couple of reasons why I took the money off a kid are as follows...

Firstly, I didn't like his style. Playing so bad and then switching it up when the money got bigger I class as a bad move. Shows no respect to me and he probably thought I've seen this guy play and he he isn't playing very well so I'll chance it against him. If he just came out and said look, I'm a good player do you want to play for some money id have more respect for him and may have let him keep the cue and watch.

Secondly, he tried doing a runner a few times which I forgot to mention. He was 8-2 down and he kept wanting to go to the bathroom, which is fine but he didn't need to take his cue. So I told him to leave the cue and wallet down at the table if he were to leave the room. Its something I do automatically when playing for money with randomers and something I expect others to do.

So yeah, this is why I don't really like playing for money with people i don't know. They try to deceive you, they lie, they show no sign of respect and rarely pay up when the stakes get high. I'll stick to playing with people who I know are good for the cash in future I think.
 
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