Thoughts on Pattern Racking/Rack Manipulation?

Cameron Smith said:
The other tricky part to this is that once you understand which balls go where depending on the break, you may not be explicitly pattern racking but will stop and think “nope I don’t want to put the 3 ball there if the 4 ball is here“. It takes honesty to place if somewhere that you know could be problematic.

But I agree, that for the majority of us, unless we are getting out a high percentage of the time, consistently controlling the 1 and the layout may be a disadvantage lol.
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I agree. It’s a slippery slope between absolute random racking and pattern racking. I am way more likely to pay attention to ball placement when gambling, than I am in a tournament. At 6-6, in a race to 7, I can get pretty focused. It can be as simple as low balls and high balls but it becomes conscious, whether I want it to or not. As I posted earlier, if you have gone to the trouble to learn what balls go where, at what speed break, it’s hard to believe you haven’t gone down that path at some point. Not that it pays off every time. It’s still a crap shoot for most of us but it may move the needle a little.


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Sheldon said:
I played in a $1K entry tournament and the rules were that the 2 has to be behind the 9, and no soft breaks. It seems pretty common now for the bigger tournaments to have this rule. I do like rack your own 9 ball, as long as 9 ball breaks are not counted. Mainly because I never want anyone to be able to say I gave them a bad rack.

I've also heard from a friend that was told by a top pro that gapping the 1 ball in a 10 ball rack was very common.
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what they are doing is making a small gap between the 2 balls behind the 1 which makes the tangent line for the 1 in the side almost a hanger. Also cheating.
 
The most famous case of this in a legit professional event was Ko Pin Yi vs SVB in their 2015 WPA world 9 ball championships final round match. Ko pattern racked the first 5 or so racks in a row before Shane spoke up and got the attention of the ref. Why the ref did not notice on his own, or why it was rack your own to begin with, is beyond me. Ko beat Shane 13-11 to win the title.
 
skogstokig said:
yeh, you see, picking what's desirable or undesirable is what constitutes pattern racking..
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So that's square one isn't it?

I used to rack 1, 8, 7 until the 187 reference occurred to me a couple years ago. That's a good 50 years doing it all because it made sense to me. Turns out maybe the guy I copied that rack from did that to see how I broke in case he had to offer me the 7. 8. :D Fortunately this "lion" had other aspirations. :LOL:
 
Are the refs that rack for the pros racking randomly? Or giving each player the same rack?
 
straightline said:
So that's square one isn't it?

I used to rack 1, 8, 7 until the 187 reference occurred to me a couple years ago. That's a good 50 years doing it all because it made sense to me. Turns out maybe the guy I copied that rack from did that to see how I broke in case he had to offer me the 7. 8. :D Fortunately this "lion" had other aspirations. :LOL:
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no, it's a method for randomness.
 
straightline said:
If you play enough, how you gonna not pattern rack; especially 9 ball? 1 and 9 are fixed. The remaining 7 spots are fixed. Unpattern attempts are bound to be pattern - ic, ish, al
lol.
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People just don't seem to understand that mandatory placement of balls (1 & 9...sometimes two too), there aren't really that many combinations of arrangenent left.

Additionally, once one realizes how to____, he can shift the run's perceived order up or down.

If 6 was 9.
10-4
Nothing sounds great like an 8-0-8.
 
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