Tiger IB+ Material?

[HueblerHustler7]

As the topic says what is or in your opinion the closest material to Tiger products ice breaker plus material ( the new orange stuff ) I own a fortis pro and the ferrule is getting a bit low compared to original hight. I called them and the won't sell a rod type length to the public. So any suggestions other than sending it to them? Looking for just a few inches to have for repairs. Thank you in advance.

 

[Sheldon]

You're going to repair tips, instead of replacing them?

 

[HueblerHustler7]

You're going to repair tips, instead of replacing them?

The fortis carbon shaft uses the same material as the ice breaker tip for the ferrule.... I said nothing about repairing tips and not replacing them, this thread is a question about the material used.

 

[Rimfirejunkie]

I’d buy one of their shafts if the ferrule wasn’t orange.

 

[Sheldon]

The fortis carbon shaft uses the same material as the ice breaker tip for the ferrule.... I said nothing about repairing tips and not replacing them, this thread is a question about the material used.

Ah, I haven't been keeping up with their product line, I guess. Seems like they aught to provide the materials if they're used in such a manner.
I logged in to my wholesale account and didn't see it.

 

[HueblerHustler7]

Ah, I haven't been keeping up with their product line, I guess. Seems like they aught to provide the materials if they're used in such a manner.
I logged in to my wholesale account and didn't see it.

I totally agree, If they are willing to sell a tip size they should sell uncut inch sizes imho.

 

[Michael Webb]

I totally agree, If they are willing to sell a tip size they should sell uncut inch sizes imho.

Company policies can be a pain in the Pooper.

 

[Dave38]

This is one of their jump/break shafts with an orange all in one tip/ferrule. Don't know what it is made of, but seem to shatter pretty well. My customer went to jump a shot and chunks flew off and that's what they got when they were looking at it after. Got to say haven't seen that happen when it's an all-in-one material. I cut the top flush, filled the voids with epoxy, re-faced it and installed a white diamond and the customer has been very please.

 

[Kim Bye]

I did a few searches for orange thermoset plastic rod and I really didn't get any hits. My guess is that it's common material they have special ordered in their own bright orange colour. If it shatters as Dave says, it's definently harder than Juma or Elforyn.

 

[Michael Webb]

This is one of their jump/break shafts with an orange all in one tip/ferrule. Don't know what it is made of, but seem to shatter pretty well. My customer went to jump a shot and chunks flew off and that's what they got when they were looking at it after. Got to say haven't seen that happen when it's an all-in-one material. I cut the top flush, filled the voids with epoxy, re-faced it and installed a white diamond and the customer has been very please.
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I've never been impressed with the one piece tip/ferrule combination by anyone. The tip is always a good option if miscues happen and chip the tip.

 

[Mcues]

Just more crap!

 

[kgoods]

This is one of their jump/break shafts with an orange all in one tip/ferrule. Don't know what it is made of, but seem to shatter pretty well. My customer went to jump a shot and chunks flew off and that's what they got when they were looking at it after. Got to say haven't seen that happen when it's an all-in-one material. I cut the top flush, filled the voids with epoxy, re-faced it and installed a white diamond and the customer has been very please.

Why the hell is it hollow? Doesn't look like there was much material thickness at all at the apex of the tip. Crazy....

 

[dendweller]

Why the hell is it hollow? Doesn't look like there was much material thickness at all at the apex of the tip. Crazy....

predators maple break cues are hollow like their playing cues. Found that surprising. Assume it's for the ld properties. Maybe it's the same reason for this ferrule being hollow, less mass.

 

[kgoods]

predators maple break cues are hollow like their playing cues. Found that surprising. Assume it's for the ld properties. Maybe it's the same reason for this ferrule being hollow, less mass.

Interesting, LD isn't normally a property I consider on break/jump cues, I'm usually looking for quite the opposite. Thanks.

 

[Sheldon]

From my experience, LD is an advantage for breaking, disadvantage for jumping. This is why break/jump cues are always going to compromise somewhere.

 

[HueblerHustler7]

Never mind, just installed some Micarta with a SIB Pro, plays pretty sporty, looks more normal than the orange anyway... Probably " lower deflection" as well.

 

[HueblerHustler7]

 

[mvcbk718]

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I remember seeing a post of yours where you said that this shaft was not as “quiet” as the black v4. Did changing the ferrule quiet down the noise and make the shaft feel/hit softer? I have both and would love if I could get the fortis to hit softer and not have such a harsh sound like the v4. Both my shafts have kamui athlete softs installed and the one the fortis it feels like a rock lol crazy pinging sound too, tips are also about 2 weeks old each. Sorry for the rant but genuinely interested in knowing.

 

[HueblerHustler7]

I remember seeing a post of yours where you said that this shaft was not as “quiet” as the black v4. Did changing the ferrule quiet down the noise and make the shaft feel/hit softer? I have both and would love if I could get the fortis to hit softer and not have such a harsh sound like the v4. Both my shafts have kamui athlete softs installed and the one the fortis it feels like a rock lol crazy pinging sound too, tips are also about 2 weeks old each. Sorry for the rant but genuinely interested in knowing.

I love the Fortis with its normal orange IB+ paired with the tiger Onyx, When I changed my first Fortis I think it hit a lil less sharp but no way as quiet as the Jacoby v4. I can recommend to try it with Juma for the "ferrule" material, even with a wood tennon in the center of the ( Vault plate cap ) But I can not say for sure. I Still have my modified fortis with a medium soft tip ( Brunswick blue diamond ) Old stock!, it plays very well but I ended up settling on a factory Fortis pro! I can not say enough great things about the Tiger Fortis! I may even go as far an purchase a full Tiger cue in the future.

 

[mvcbk718]

Thanks for the info, definitely appreciate the input! I might try some different tip combos (maybe even some type of pad as well) to "quiet" the shaft down if possible before I try a different ferrule material I recently had an athlete soft installed on my ignite as well and it doesn't feel as hard as the one on fortis either, I'm scared to put on my favorite the Zan Hybrid Max in fear its going to feel like a brick and sound like throwing marbles at concrete lol. I love the taper and the "power" of the fortis pro so far deflection very low as well just trying to getting more of the feel I'm looking for with it.