Tiger Leather Cutting Blade Video

Is it just me? Or does it seem like he sanded an awfull lot of the ferull diameter off?
 
I just watched your video and found it to be the most dangerous way of shaping a tip that I have ever seen. If that blade catches the tip the wrong way somebody is going to get seriously injured.

I have installed thousands of laminated tips using Joe Porper's Radius Tool and never put my fingers, hands, arms or body in harm's way. You should go to basic machinist' school to learn that you face a ferrule via a crossfeed and a facing tool not a hand held blade if you expect it to be perfectly flat.

Further to use this video as a tool to sell something else to unsuspecting new cuemakers is opening you up to legal reprocussions if they hurt themselves.

I do not recommend this way of doing tips or facing ferrules.

Good Cuemaking,

Arnot Wadsworth
 
I use the razor blade method to trim and shape my tips but this is a little questionable at best:confused:
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I just watched your video and found it to be the most dangerous way of shaping a tip that I have ever seen. If that blade catches the tip the wrong way somebody is going to get seriously injured.

I have installed thousands of laminated tips using Joe Porper's Radius Tool and never put my fingers, hands, arms or body in harm's way. You should go to basic machinist' school to learn that you face a ferrule via a crossfeed and a facing tool not a hand held blade if you expect it to be perfectly flat.

Further to use this video as a tool to sell something else to unsuspecting new cuemakers is opening you up to legal reprocussions if they hurt themselves.

I do not recommend this way of doing tips or facing ferrules.

Good Cuemaking,

Arnot Wadsworth
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Arnot,

This method of installing laminated tips is a skill and must be developed no doubt or the operator (or even someone standing nearby) could be injured easily. However, rest assured that we have installed in excess of 10,000 Snipers in this manner without injury nor tip failure.

As an FYI, we no longer intall tips in this manner in our facility (only on the road now), as our new router set-up allows a perfect tip every time with minimal risk to the operator. It is must faster as well.

Regardless, we appreciate your feedback and hope to see you at a show one day to talk shop and share techniques.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
I have been assured no ferrule was removed. The white you see, is dried CA.
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Ummm....With 400 grit on a ferrull for that long, Its getting smaller fast.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Arnot,

This method of installing laminated tips is a skill and must be developed no doubt or the operator (or even someone standing nearby) could be injured easily. However, rest assured that we have installed in excess of 10,000 Snipers in this manner without injury nor tip failure.

As an FYI, we no longer intall tips in this manner in our facility (only on the road now), as our new router set-up allows a perfect tip every time with minimal risk to the operator. It is must faster as well.

Regardless, we appreciate your feedback and hope to see you at a show one day to talk shop and share techniques.
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I'm not picking on the method here, because Your blade has a handle (nice blade BTW), But for Myself I use a utility blade to do the radius in a similar way. I know some others do also, and at one point in the video I saw something that would be dangerous with a utility blade. What I saw was the end of the blade near the middle of the tip, With the U blade method that end could easily dig in flipping the blade, and cause some serious injury.I agree It is a developed/aquired skill, and I have had some experience with the u blade, and thought that someone with less may make the mistake after seeing the video. Your blade has a handle therefore may have more leverage and keep the hand farther away from the blade Itself, but toying with the blade end near the tip middle like that using a utility would be rolling the dice regardless of experience using the method. Just trying to save someone a finger should they try this using the other blade, hope you understand the point I'm trying to convey, It's not to put down anything I saw, I just wouldn't want to see someone take that risk with the disposable blades.:)

Greg
 
Cue Crazy said:
I'm not picking on the method here, because Your blade has a handle (nice blade BTW), But for Myself I use a utility blade to do the radius in a similar way. I know some others do also, and at one point in the video I saw something that would be dangerous with a utility blade. What I saw was the end of the blade near the middle of the tip, With the U blade method that end could easily dig in flipping the blade, and cause some serious injury.I agree It is a developed/aquired skill, and I have had some experience with the u blade, and thought that someone with less may make the mistake after seeing the video. Your blade has a handle therefore may have more leverage and keep the hand farther away from the blade Itself, but toying with the blade end near the tip middle like that using a utility would be rolling the dice regardless of experience using the method. Just trying to save someone a finger should they try this using the other blade, hope you understand the point I'm trying to convey, It's not to put down anything I saw, I just wouldn't want to see someone take that risk with the disposable blades.:)

Greg
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The intention of the video, is to teach how to cut using "our" blade :D . LOL!
 
I use a utility blade Sheldon's way as well.
I make sure that tip is a least 6 inches away from the chuck.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
The intention of the video, is to teach how to cut using "our" blade :D . LOL!
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Well I'm always happy to amuse:D , but since You mentioned It, to be perfectly honest that was My polite way of saying that I would'nt want to get into the habit of doing that with any blade- a utility, Yours, or even a handle version I put My own grind on. I Have one that I use to do the radius on phenolic with. It's probably 8"to12" long with a wooden handle, plenty of leverage, and I still don't take the risk cause there's no gain from doing so IMHO. Maybe rip a tip up or snap the tenon at the least should it grab & snag. It's just a bad habit to get into IMO is all I'm saying.
I pretty much aggree with Arnot, about the facing & machining the ferrule, and the other stuff, even the part about the danger the way I do the radius using the utility blade, but I've taken risks that I should'nt, just like some others, so I'm not perfect or MR safety By far Myself, altough I do machine My ferrules with a compound, But I understand there are people with spinners that would use that method not having a crosslide.
Sheldon showed many people on here how he does his radius, but I was using the method way before he posted that, believe I picked it up from Chris. I also use different blades. Anyhow I have easily done thousands by now I'm sure, and I'm small time In My mind, but I do have some experience here, and have learned a few Do's and Don'ts along the way. One of them is to watch where that blade tip is, most of the video seemed to show it done the safer way, but it moved into what I mentioned seeing. I've done that when I was fatigued, I just would'nt want to teach It to someone that did'nt know better. If I'm reading Joey correctly He's thinking of another don't in his round about way.:D That one can get ya too or add to the chances of the other bad outcome.;)
Anyway My original post was'nt meant to critisize, and You can see I originally kept alot of My thoughts to Myself, as I mentioned I was just trying to put the thought In anyone's mind that does'nt know better, so they don't have to learn the hardway.:) Sorry If By some chance You misunderstood My hidden meaning, took It the wrong way, or were offended, My intentions were quite the opposite, but If Your wanting to teach people, wouldn't you also want to point areas of concern out to them? Possible we just don't see eye to eye on It being a bad habit. My appologies If You misunderstood Me.:)

Greg
 
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