Tiger shafts

Kimmo H.

Kimmo H.

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So I have thought about getting a LD shaft for my schon, as my 314 is starting to fall apart on me :mad:
I love the way the predators play, and I like the look of a short ferrule. However Im rather pissed about the current shaft starting to split on me, not even a full year of play with it and I have never broken with it.

I have been looking into other makers if they are more durable, and Tiger caught my eye on Ebay. Any reviews on them, how would compare the feel and performance to a 314-2 for example? Looking to get a 30" shaft for a schon, diameter is still undecided as of now. Any input or other suggestions are highly appreciated and welcome :)

And yes, I did search around and found some info, but im looking for fresh opinions on different ld's, good or bad :rolleyes: Share your thoughtsand tell me what would you get :smile:
 
Tiger shafts are nice and they certainly hold up better than Predator shafts.
The hit is stiffer than Predator.
Why not get a non laminated shaft and do away with the potential problem of delamination once and for all?
Mezz HP II, EX Pro or WX900 are all one piece maple shafts. Joss also got a solid maple LD shaft, plays very nice.
 
Thanks for the reply Kim. I already own a HP2 and I have played with WX700 for quite some time. There is just something off about them for my game and I dont really like either. HP is an okay shaft but it has a really weird feel to hit when using a lot of spin to get around.

Just looking around for my options, this aint todays business as Im saving up for a Diamond table for now. But after that I'll be giving some other LD a shot.
Mezz makes great cues but their shafts arent quite for my taste :o
The 12,75 tiger seems appealing, with a long pro taper and very short ferrule :)
 
Kimmo H. said:
Thanks for the reply Kim. I already own a HP2 and I have played with WX700 for quite some time. There is just something off about them for my game and I dont really like either. HP is an okay shaft but it has a really weird feel to hit when using a lot of spin to get around.

Just looking around for my options, this aint todays business as Im saving up for a Diamond table for now. But after that I'll be giving some other LD a shot.
Mezz makes great cues but their shafts arent quite for my taste :o
The 12,75 tiger seems appealing, with a long pro taper and very short ferrule :)
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Thats ok Kimmo, check out the Joss LD shafts, they have one solid maple and one laminated.
They are about $190 I have one of each in stock with 5/16-14 threads.
 
I second Tiger LD, they are stiffer (which I like), provide good feedback and have close to a 314 LD properties.
Get rid of the Everest tip after 3-4 months, put on a softer Onyx or Sniper and be done with it.

They also have far reaching warranties and are a true proved mass market product (which is good).

You can also get their "No LD" shaft which is 11,75mm if you'd like. Plenty of joint options and 30", too.

Cheers!
 
Thanks for the replies so far.
Could someone chime in on the main differences in play for 12,75 and 11,75 shafts, apart from the obvious; diameter. What makes the smaller shafts so much more unforgiving as the allmighty internet says? More spin and and control blablabla. Interested in real opinions on what you like and why, not so much technical nonsense that everyone is always talking about :grin:

I, for now, favor a 12,75mm but I have never got to play with a good 11,75 shaft. Maybe I'll strike lucky and find someone willing to let me try out theirs :o

Im currently battling it between Joss, Jacoby Hybrid Edge and Tiger, thanks to Kim for providing me with info on Joss shafts.


Glad to see real feedback in this thread, I appreciate your help. Even though it ultimately comes down to personal preferences, its nice to have some background on what im going to spend another few hundred of my hard earned money in the near future :thumbup:
 
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Kimmo H. said:
Thanks for the replies so far.
Could someone chime in on the main differences in play for 12,75 and 11,75 shafts, apart from the obvious; diameter. What makes the smaller shafts so much more unforgiving as the allmighty internet says?
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The 11.75 squirts less, and squerves more. The curve takes over sooner than you think, and you miss the shot on the other side of the pocket. Had one briefly....... Briefly...... :thumbup:
 
Kimmo H. said:
So I have thought about getting a LD shaft for my schon, as my 314 is starting to fall apart on me :mad:
I love the way the predators play, and I like the look of a short ferrule. However Im rather pissed about the current shaft starting to split on me, not even a full year of play with it and I have never broken with it.

I have been looking into other makers if they are more durable, and Tiger caught my eye on Ebay. Any reviews on them, how would compare the feel and performance to a 314-2 for example? Looking to get a 30" shaft for a schon, diameter is still undecided as of now. Any input or other suggestions are highly appreciated and welcome :)

And yes, I did search around and found some info, but im looking for fresh opinions on different ld's, good or bad :rolleyes: Share your thoughtsand tell me what would you get :smile:
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Why not contact predator about the delamination? They guarantee for life against defects and it sounds like that's exactly what yours is. They're pretty generous too in what they cover if you just explain it to them.

At this point with the phase out of the 2nd generation they might even just send you a 314-3 lol.
 
I don't know anything about Tigers or the 314s but another LD shaft to look into is the CDX SuperShaft. They are 165 and he will do 29 or 30in from 11.75-13 at no additional cost.
 
Kimmo H. said:
So I have thought about getting a LD shaft for my schon, as my 314 is starting to fall apart on me :mad:
I love the way the predators play, and I like the look of a short ferrule. However Im rather pissed about the current shaft starting to split on me, not even a full year of play with it and I have never broken with it.

I have been looking into other makers if they are more durable, and Tiger caught my eye on Ebay. Any reviews on them, how would compare the feel and performance to a 314-2 for example? Looking to get a 30" shaft for a schon, diameter is still undecided as of now. Any input or other suggestions are highly appreciated and welcome :)

And yes, I did search around and found some info, but im looking for fresh opinions on different ld's, good or bad :rolleyes: Share your thoughtsand tell me what would you get :smile:
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Tiger shafts are stiff hitting. They tend to deflect more than their predator counterparts, but because of their more solid construction they also hit more solid. I played with a modified tiger shaft (done locally) for about a year. It had a nice solid hit, but in the end I thought it deflected just a little bit more than I prefer, otherwise I would have kept it. The quality was very good.

I wouldn't know how a longer shaft would hit, but generally my impression is that a longer shaft will flex more and give a softer hit.
 
After playing for 3 years with an Z2 shaft I took an Tiger Ultra X shaft 12.75 mm, and couldn't be more happy. Very good quality and feedback. I choose Tiger instead of Mezz Alpha Hybrid shaft.
Now I can't understand how I played with Z2, it feels so dead.
 
ALL I CAN SAY TO YOU GUYS CHECK SECONDARY MARKET ON THESE CUES! VERY FEW EVER UP FOR SALE, MANY MUST LOVE THEM! PLUS A GOOD OLD USA PRODUCT! WILL BE LOOKING INTO 1 OF THESE TO BUY!:thumbup:
 
Scott Lee said:
I've been playing with the Tiger XPro for a few years now. I love the way it plays. I've put a few different tips on it, and they all play great (Onyx, Moori, LePro, Ki Tech)!

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Scott, it's actually a ProX shaft not an XPro. Just for clarification purposes - I don't think anyone wants to say they are an "Ex Pro" player...LOL.

That being said, I use the same shaft on my Tiger Cue and I can honestly say that I am thrilled. The Ultra LD does deflect a little more than the Pro X but only very slightly. I have a Pro X on 2 different cues. One is an ebony cue and the other is a cocobolo cue. One thing I noticed about using the same model shaft on those two cues was that my Ebony Tiger Cue with the Pro X did feel a lot crisper and gave me more feedback whenever I hit a ball. The cocobolo cue seemed to hit softer. However, the lack of squirt, deflection and sheer reliability of this shaft is amazing on both cues.

There's also an interesting page on Tiger's site which discuss their 'X' technology and the Tiger shaft lamination process; producing what is called 'radial consistency' in the hit of your cue. Here's the page I'm referring to:

http://www.tigerproducts.com/shafttech.html

Best of luck with whichever shaft you decide to purchase. If you have any issues finding the right dealer or timeline getting what you need, you can call Tony at Tiger direct 800-584-4375 and tell them POV sent you.

Keep Loving Pool!
 
Thanks for the tip POV :)

Starting to lean towards Tiger for now atleast until Kim provides me with some more info on Joss shafts, will have to make a decision then on what to get :o

Its starting to feel like that I will end up with a handful of different shafts :thumbup: The equipment bug really bit me hard this time, but Im not complaining. The best part of pool for me is to be able to experiment with different things. Keeps my game sharp and my mind occupied. The cost is something that I can live with. Good god do I love this game :)
 
Chuck Fields said:
The 11.75 squirts less, and squerves more. The curve takes over sooner than you think, and you miss the shot on the other side of the pocket.
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Anyone care to speculate about what mechanism a cue would have to cause swerve to increase (without an increase in usable spin) or to cause swerve to happen 'sooner'?

Thank you kindly.
 
I'm not in line as to the swerve back overreaching; this greatly depends upon your playing style as in cue position and level (which should be 90 degrees against the table).

But the smaller the tip is the more difficult it gets because the offset action on the cue ball will the more pronounced due to the smaller hitting area; more hitting area means more averaging out over the area.

Tiger has a nicely thought out 5 piece construction (4 around 1 center piece) which aids the feel. Also Cuetec's R360 does something similar with a "center tube" and 4 pieces around and has a nice feel. Simply radially glued shafts (such as Predator) do have problems here.

One thing though: masse shots get rather difficult!
Cheers!
 
Corwyn_8 said:
Anyone care to speculate about what mechanism a cue would have to cause swerve to increase (without an increase in usable spin) or to cause swerve to happen 'sooner'?

Thank you kindly.
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With so little cb deflection, the cb takes the curve faster. Say you want to use rh english on a cut to the left. You aim to slightly over cut thinking the shaft will squirt left, but it almost immediately curves right.

I think it more just an effect of the very low squirt.
 
This may be the shortest time ever of a shaft review, but a friend of my son's was trying out Tiger shafts at the last SBE and I took two shots with it. Decent angle long shot with inside spin. I made both shots and spun the crap out of the cueball with that shaft/tip combo to the point where I was pretty amazed about what I did with that shaft.

If you can go by a two shot review, it worked really well for making a shot with spin, and the amount of spin I got off the shaft was pretty impressive.
 
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