Tip-down cases ruin the tip of your cue...

8-Ball Player said:
Something else my pool instructor told me... I have a hard Action case 1x1 that has individual tubes for my cue. The tip inserts down, as well as the pin from the butt. He said that a tip-down case will eventually wear out the tip faster than if it was a tip-up case. If I get my McDermott cue, I want a case that is pretty cheap, and protects my cue properly, tip and all. Any suggestions? :)
Welcome to the board. I love your avatar. Did you design that yourself?

I see that you are from Utah. I have visited Salt Lake City once, and it was a very unique city. I could not find any pool hall in the downtown area, although I am sure there has to be some.

The only bad question is the one unasked.

From what I have seen, most pro players who use the tube style case (Justis, Instroke, Talisman, Whitten...etc) put their shafts "tip down." You can check how they take their cues out and put them back when you watch them on TV or on DVDs.

I do want to mention that some of these inexpensive cases, in my opinion, may have the potential of damaging your cues because they use very cheap interior. I am not sure what they use, but I have noticed from checking some of the inexpensive cases used by others, that the interior look like it could have the potential of damaging the cue. I am also not sure if these cheap interior will actually absorb moisture or repel it.

It is important to buy a solid case which can protect your cues from mositure, impact, and temperature variation to a reasonable extend. I personally recommend Jack Justis case. I also have Dennis Swift, and Dan Whitten. They will last you many many years to come. I have changed a lot of cues, and have found my cases to be one of the best investment I have made--they look good, feel good, and protect all my cues well.:)

Hope this helps.

Richard
 
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Alot the guys here mean well...but...they sometimes have a hard time seeing things thru the eyes of a beginner...and a broke beginner at that :).....

Justis , Whitten, and the boys have awesome products for sure... but dont buy a 300 dollar case for a 150 dollar cue..... to me that is a worse idea than a cheap case for expsenvie cue....You play pool with the cue not the bag.... remember that fact when you start seperating your money into case and cue piles....

BTW .. I was laying off bashing your "instructor"..but it is getting harder wiht every thread you start....
 
8-Ball Player said:
Something else my pool instructor told me... I have a hard Action case 1x1 that has individual tubes for my cue. The tip inserts down, as well as the pin from the butt. He said that a tip-down case will eventually wear out the tip faster than if it was a tip-up case. If I get my McDermott cue, I want a case that is pretty cheap, and protects my cue properly, tip and all. Any suggestions? :)

Get a new instructor.

Really. There is nothing inside of a cue case - even the really bad ones that will wear out a tip at all. As one who has inspected the interiors of just about every cue case that exists by dissecting them completely I can state this with complete confidence.

Most cases these days will do the job well. The good thing about the popularity of high end production cases like Instroke is that it has actually raised the quality level across the board. Several years ago Instroke copies had things going on in the interior construction that were harmful to the cue. Now however I have been seeing better and better constuction. You shouldn't have much of a problem no matter which case you choose with reasonable use.
 
Tips up or down

There could be some merit to this.

Whether a cue tip that last 6 months wears out 15 minutes quicker if you store it in the down position is not a big difference.

Mythbusters stuff.

:D
 
smokeandapancak said:
Alot the guys here mean well...but...they sometimes have a hard time seeing things thru the eyes of a beginner...and a broke beginner at that :).....

Justis , Whitten, and the boys have awesome products for sure... but dont buy a 300 dollar case for a 150 dollar cue..... to me that is a worse idea than a cheap case for expsenvie cue....You play pool with the cue not the bag.... remember that fact when you start seperating your money into case and cue piles....

BTW .. I was laying off bashing your "instructor"..but it is getting harder wiht every thread you start....

Broke...maybe...more like, conservative. But yes, I am very new to the world of billiards. BTW. I personally give you permission to bash my instructor all you want. :D ;) :)

P.S. X-Breaker, I sent you a PM.
 
well i see no point in commenting on the topic any more since 30 other people told u the answer.

i will however say that ur instructor is misleading u. to think a meucci is the most amazing thing ever then say mcdermotts suck shows he wasnt speaking the truth. even if he didnt like mcdermott the correct thing would be to say that he doesnt like using them. now this whole tip down fiasco just makes him look even dumber. i believe that what he actually thinks to be the case is not what he told u. he might just be spewing random stuff to make u think he's a great instructor. i know sometimes people like to say things that they know arent true if they know that the person they are talking to wont realize it. probably makes them feel superior or gets their intended target to believe whatever they say. so from now on, i'd say that u should not take what he says about equipment that seriously. just concentrate on what he's teaching u at the pool table (if he's actually good). of course, i'm just basing this on the info u've provided.
 
Danktrees said:
well i see no point in commenting on the topic any more since 30 other people told u the answer.

i will however say that ur instructor is misleading u. to think a meucci is the most amazing thing ever then say mcdermotts suck shows he wasnt speaking the truth. even if he didnt like mcdermott the correct thing would be to say that he doesnt like using them. now this whole tip down fiasco just makes him look even dumber. i believe that what he actually thinks to be the case is not what he told u. he might just be spewing random stuff to make u think he's a great instructor. i know sometimes people like to say things that they know arent true if they know that the person they are talking to wont realize it. probably makes them feel superior or gets their intended target to believe whatever they say. so from now on, i'd say that u should not take what he says about equipment that seriously. just concentrate on what he's teaching u at the pool table (if he's actually good). of course, i'm just basing this on the info u've provided.

Yes, he is quite good, although his information is proving to be misleading. I will just have to run it by all of you guys instead, when I want to make a purchase. ;)
 
start saving a nickel a day and by the time your new tip wears out, you will have plenty of money to buy a new one. I wouldn't get concerned with something so minor if I were you...
 
to be honest after what we have all heard i think there is a valid argument for getting a new instructor

if you are gonna check with us lot after everything he tells you i dont see how you can have any confidence in him

i have a talisman case tip down and my tip seems to handle it ok :D

oh and if i had to choose between a mucci and a mcD i think id go mcD but i would look at viking first.
 
I have a suggestion....

8-Ball Player said:
Something else my pool instructor told me... I have a hard Action case 1x1 that has individual tubes for my cue. The tip inserts down, as well as the pin from the butt. He said that a tip-down case will eventually wear out the tip faster than if it was a tip-up case. If I get my McDermott cue, I want a case that is pretty cheap, and protects my cue properly, tip and all. Any suggestions? :)

Based on your statements your "instructor" SUCKS! find someone who really knows Pool and Cues!:eek:
 
8-Ball Player said:
Something else my pool instructor told me... I have a hard Action case 1x1 that has individual tubes for my cue. The tip inserts down, as well as the pin from the butt. He said that a tip-down case will eventually wear out the tip faster than if it was a tip-up case. If I get my McDermott cue, I want a case that is pretty cheap, and protects my cue properly, tip and all. Any suggestions? :)

And I had a guy come up to me in the middle of some action I was in (1pocket) and tell me that I was playing the game wrog. He said that OnePocket was played on a 10-foot table with snooker felt.
 
Look at it this way....if the tip is being damaged by putting it down in the case, think about the hurt and agony that tip must be going through every time you break with it.....ouch! Always.....tip down, pin up.
 
8-Ball Player said:
Yes, he is quite good, although his information is proving to be misleading. I will just have to run it by all of you guys instead, when I want to make a purchase. ;)

Just curious...but on what do you base your assertion that he is "quite good"? Are you saying he plays well, or instructs well? He certainly has no clue about equipment. :rolleyes: If I were you, I'd search out a qualified instructor on the BCA website (www.bca-pool.com/instruction).

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
You get

lowriderjim said:
I'm from Indiana and we dribble our cue cases to the car. Have not experienced any damage yet.:)

my 'belly laugh of the day' award ... ROFL. I always carry mine, but get a
traveling violation every time ... LOL
 
8-Ball Player said:
Yes, he is quite good, although his information is proving to be misleading. I will just have to run it by all of you guys instead, when I want to make a purchase. ;)

If your instructor is giving you misleading information about your equipment, how in the world can you think he isn't doing the same thing with the things he is teaching you? :confused:
I agree with Scott...it's time to find a QUALIFIED instructor. He may be a great instructor, or he may be teaching you things that might actually be hurting your game. I wouldn't have much confidence in anything he told me.
Steve
 
pooltchr said:
If your instructor is giving you misleading information about your equipment, how in the world can you think he isn't doing the same thing with the things he is teaching you? :confused:
I agree with Scott...it's time to find a QUALIFIED instructor. He may be a great instructor, or he may be teaching you things that might actually be hurting your game. I wouldn't have much confidence in anything he told me.
Steve

Yeah. What he said. :D
 
pooltchr said:
If your instructor is giving you misleading information about your equipment, how in the world can you think he isn't doing the same thing with the things he is teaching you? :confused:
I agree with Scott...it's time to find a QUALIFIED instructor. He may be a great instructor, or he may be teaching you things that might actually be hurting your game. I wouldn't have much confidence in anything he told me.
Steve

I second this statement. Oh and my girlfriend said she agrees also. And she's always right. Don't dare disobey her.

I'm warning you.

.... You'll see......:eek:
 
If you don't want to, or cannot spend the higher dollars for a higher end leather case, then I would have to say to get yourself a case from Instroke's Premier line.

I have three of these cases, and it has been money well spent on each one. Prices are very reasonable, you get that famous Instroke interior, and a damn near bullet-proof upholstery grade (HEAVY) exterior...that will look pretty much like leather, and you won't have to worry about water spots when it's raining...lol.

I bought one of these cases 8 years ago, another one 7 years ago...both are 1x2 config....and both look practically as good as new, with little care, save for some mild soap and water to clean, and a little vinyl conditioner every now and again. All zippers are still intact, all feet at the bottom are still present, and there are no tears.....and I do not 'baby' them either. Interiors are still as good as new. I will tip upside down and vacuum any chalk dust that may have accumulated. I feel that with little care, they will last me a very, very long time. I think I paid just shy of $100 for each....and it has been money well spent...truly.

I, too, store my shafts tip down, with no ill effect. I do not 'drop' my butt and shafts into the tubes, preferring to gently guide them in instead....but that is more to avoid cracking a ferrule or buttcap than anything else.

Lisa
 
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