Tip keeps getting shredded

Texas Carom Club

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Wow, that's often. I scuff mine when chalk quits sticking all the way across the tip, I would guess once every 2 weeks or about 20 hours of play. I use a medium tip and break with it too, the older it gets the harder it gets. My tip has been on 2 or 3 years now, still seems to work fine. I use a Gator Grip to scuff it, if it needs shaping I have the tool that uses a strip of sandpaper and I also have one of those cube things for making a dime or nickel radius.
pools about consistency right? why not keep the tip as consistent as you can?
 

Rodney

hot7339
Silver Member
Tell your tip installer to sharpen his blade…..worked for me.
I’m not sure that a dull blade would cause this. If you look closely at the right side of the tip you can see that it looks like it was dented from the side. Maybe whatever happened there happened on the other side and caused the damage. I’m at a loss though…
 

Rodney

hot7339
Silver Member
Can you turn the shaft about a quarter turn to the left and post another pic? Something doesn’t look right on the white ferrule. The tip is also inside of the vault plate where it looks dented.
 

fastone371

Certifiable
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pools about consistency right? why not keep the tip as consistent as you can?
I do, I shape it when needed and scuff it when chalk wont stick well. I'm sure that tip quality changes as the tip wears down, you start with a very tall tip with many layers, scuff it often and soon the tip starts getting very short. Less layers make the tip play like a harder tip. I suppose there are pros and cons on both sides.
 

jayman

Hi Mom!
Silver Member
The tip is very small and rather flat. It appears to take a lot of force out near the edge. Sooner or later a soft piece of leather will expand and contract until it fatigues. A rounder profile would move the impact spot closer to the center just by being taller than the edge, spreading the brunt of the compression more evenly to the entire surface instead of on one tiny a spot on the edge.
 

nataddrho

AzB Silver Member
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The tip is very small and rather flat. It appears to take a lot of force out near the edge. Sooner or later a soft piece of leather will expand and contract until it fatigues. A rounder profile would move the impact spot closer to the center just by being taller than the edge, spreading the brunt of the compression more evenly to the entire surface instead of on one tiny a spot on the edge.
It is small but not flat. The picture is deceiving. Dime radius.
 

SeniorTom

Well-known member
What are your thoughts?

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To me the tip looks a bit worn out (thin) and flattened. The shape looks like it's has been used as a break cue and never reshaped, and pounded until it split. A flat tip will not absorb the shock as well as a rounded tip, at least it seems that way with me? In all my time playing pool I have never seen a tip do this, and we have some pretty beat up pool hall sticks where I play.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
get a different installer. check whether you have something sharp in the bottom of your case. and get a more normal looking tip something about it isnt right. go from there.
 

kling&allen

AzB Gold Member
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I’ve intentionally forced a couple CF shafts to their compression limits and the tip was never the failure mode (hollow shaft typically cracks first). I think something external tore the tip like maha said.
 

nataddrho

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
This actually happened four times, because I forgot that it happened once with my 12.4, and once with OB2+. I did play carom with it when it happened using 2 7/16” balls. 12.4 is in a completely different case.

So… twice with 11.8
Once with 12.4
Once with OB

Many agree tips should never do this even with max English hit hard. The OB used a different installer.

The only common variable is keeping the cues in my car all the time.
 

boogieman

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
This actually happened four times, because I forgot that it happened once with my 12.4, and once with OB2+. I did play carom with it when it happened using 2 7/16” balls. 12.4 is in a completely different case.

So… twice with 11.8
Once with 12.4
Once with OB

Many agree tips should never do this even with max English hit hard. The OB used a different installer.

The only common variable is keeping the cues in my car all the time.
What brand of tip is it? Just curious if it's something that may be old. The leather failed.
 

maha

from way back when
Silver Member
the common denominator here is either you, your installer or bad tips, no tips ever should split like that or probably can.

you can change two of the three variables
 

SSP

Well-known member
To be honest I don't maintain the tip at all. I think I used my Kamui Gator Grip tip shaper twice, and I only press on it, no scraping. Because it is a hard tip it keeps it's shape. I don't think this contributed to whatever I am doing to damage it.

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I use the same on a Kamui Athlete H tip and haven't seen anything like your picture, this tip tool takes virtually nothing off the tip, never seen anything like that WOW !!!
 
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