Tip Radius: Flat Vs Dime

Sing it kokopuffs, I agree. He comes on board and starts crap every time.[ JUST TO HAVE HIS NAME IN PRINT].

He just causes crap, for all to see.

If I was to learn trick shots, I would call my good friend Mike Massey. He's the best in my opinion. He doesn't run off at the mouth as so called "fast", does. He's also a gentelman, and very kind to other folks.

Would any of you folks, ask fast to replace a tip???

don't think so.

I don't think you would ask me to teach you trick shots, either.

HONOR what you say fast, and Take a long hike,

blud
 
Wow, Blud gets dizzed for saying the national "average" is nickel shaped.
Take it easy on Blud's cues Larry . After all, you play with a Meucci.lol
 
Thanks Joseph,

it's like he said, quote[ I don't do tips].

And just for the record fast, i have booked over 150k in a year just putting on tips.
You ask about records, i told ya.
blud
 
Fast Larry proves once again that he is the biggest virus on this great forum. Just because he doesn't agree with your opion, he attacks someone personally. Larry you need to grow up some.

Kent Mc.
 
Hey, NBC, I ain't gonna meet him in Japan. My "FRIENDS" are picking me up at the air port.
blud
 
fast larry said:
What do you do, you glue on tips, yo da man right. I can train a chimp to glue on a tip. My Dog can put on a tip with his nose, whip te do da.


LOL Priceless. Next Guiness world records show, FL playing a 4 rail draw shot with a tip installed by Wonderdog VS Blud playing a 4 rail draw with a tip installed by Blud. Thats good TV!
 
who really cares about"trick" shots anyway? when do you really need to draw 20 feet? Most persons are concerned about winning their matches, not shooting a 5 rail shot with a pineapple on their head. And whatever tip shape and style would help win more matches. FL needs a litttle humility I think
 
Hi Don this is fast. Frankly I don't give a damn if you play with a quarter shapes, I know what works. The trouble with these forums is people come on and say this, another says that, and soon you have 5 opinions of what to do. Obviously 4 of them are wrong. Trying to sort through all of this stuff and know what to do is the problem. Don, I never said I know more than you and everyone else on the planet, you said that. I never said that. I learn something new every day that is why I know a lot. I spent years testing things to know why they do what they do. On the forums every one is an expert, everyone has an opinion. Everyone knows more than me. I don't know nuttin, just read these 4 pages of this thread, all the blud dealers will tell you that.

I get upset when I see people post things I know are wrong and don't work, like to draw the ball hit low and level with a long follow through, that one drives me insane also.

Just because I post on a Christian forum does not make me a monk or a saint. I am a real pool player; I am not a priest or a minister. Read my post there, I said I am a lousy Christian and a sinner. I am trying to become a better Christian. Making me took at it from that perspective, they you are right, I could have and should have been more diplomatic. I will endeavor to do that in the future.

This was the post I made: Dear Blud, you used a nickel when Ike was in office and tricky dick was veep. Today, use a dime.

Going back and looking at that, what I said, it was not that bad. It could have been better said, but there is no attack there.
He took that and escalated this into where it is now. I have no desire to continue this with him. You know where I stand on this issue, use a dime, period. I am not going to fight you over this.
You want to listen to him and use a nickel, go for it. It's a free country. I am off this post. Trash me all you want to punish me for speaking my mind, I don't care, it does not matter.

Brag about my accomplishments, read the 9 pages blud has written bragging about what he has done just on this thread alone, he just broke the world record for bragging dude.
Just because a guy puts on a lot of tips does not means he's right or knows, that was my point. The forums are full of players living in the past, some are up to date, others are decades out of date. Every forum has these people. They are dug into what they think is right. There is a saying; old dogs never learn new tricks. I am an old dog, but I force my self to learn something new every day of my life. I am not dug into any positions on anything.
I have said many times, all I know is I know nothing, the more I learn, the more I know I don't know. I know a lot because I have been draining the brains of people who were experts for the last 50 years. What they knew, I now have.

Putting on a tip right is an art forum, it is so vital and critical I won't do it by my self, I have only one guy I trust with this. I won't change a tip on the road. I have several shafts and I bring the shaft home to be re tipped. Saying Wonder dog could do it was of course a little silly. I don't trust strangers with this. I did, some were good, and some were not. The guys who show up at the big tourneys are experts. Not every guy doing tips behind the counter of every pool hall are.

There are two issues here. The guy can put on a tip perfect like Ray Schuler did for me, then shape the tip wrong. That was my point, so I got out my file and sanding the angle from a nickel to a dime, a few strokes and its now fine. No big deal. Every player will find the shape that works for him, different strokes for different folks. The final shape of the tip should be the player’s job to install with his hand file. He should not trust the tip installer to provide that for him. Once he finds the angle that gives him his best performance he should learn how to file that and maintain that on his tip.

Saying I have made world records with my dime shape tip is not bragging, it's fact, it was printed in every magazine on Earth, I just asked Blud how many world records he's made using his nickel shape and tip, the answer is none. I do not accomplish what I have done not knowing what works and what does not work. Yes I do know, I can't help that.

There is a bunch of custom cue makers running around who can't run 3 friggin balls so how will they ever know if their cue actually plays worth a flip. Many of these same guys make a cue that does not play worth a flip. They make a pretty cue that costs a lot of money. I call them pretty wall hangers, I have several of them. I collect them like mugs I hang on the wall and never drink beer out of. I drink beer out of a mason jar, same with my wine and scotch. Yes I have fine crystal glasses; I just prefer my canning jars to use. Ok I can't wait to see this one in print, Fast drinks booze from a jelly jar and jumps with a $4 mop.

Just because a guy makes a custom cue that sells for a lot of money that does not make him an expert on how a cue plays or performs. I am telling you there are guys out there that do not have a clue. Just a few, not many, but they are there. No names please. Most players know the cues you only buy to collect and hang on the wall but would not be caught dead trying to win with one. After a while these guys begin to pontificate and begin to sell themselves that they are the guru on everything. The players who really know run around tearing their hair out listening to some of the things these guys write.

Throwing stones on him, yeh I probably did, that was probably uncalled for and a little rude, I could have worded that better. Sorry. This guy posts this crap and he drives me wild. I try not to even read what the guy writes so he won’t set me off but I sort of stumbled into this one by accident. If you try to make a living in the pool world and then try and be a perfect Christian and follow all of the teachings of Jesus you soon come to the conclusion this is impossible. You soon have a congo line formed with people getting ready to hump you.

Yes I realize I must learn how to love everyone, even those I have had bad blood with in the past. I am trying hard how to learn to do this. It is working slowly. I am making slow progress. Ok, I will try to learn how to love Blud, I will try. I don’t know if I can do it, but I will try.

He thinks the ivory ferrule is the best, bad out of date by 50 years, a soft tip is best, bad out of date by a decade. A stiff shaft is best, deflects like a mother, out of date by a decade and a nickel shape is best for the tip, draws like a dog and is out of date by 20 years. On page one he is telling you a flat tip draws great, I am going flat tip? Bang De Boom. It's all bad advice, I am saying, don't do this. I gotta stop jumping in here and trying to save you guys from this crap. It's probably best I just shut up and let them dump this crap on you and wish you the best for you to be able to figger out what is real and what is not. There is no reward for me doing this, it's all downhill negative crap.

Ok, I said it, now you don't like it so he's your pal so you come in to call me names. Purdy, does two wrongs make a right? Blud gets his dealers who have a vested interest in his cue to all come in and gang up on me and to trash me. Then he comes on behind them to do same. Here we go again, been there, done this one before. He takes one little sentence I wrote and tries to flame this into a get Fast thread. Everybody runs and hides and nobody comes in to protect my right of free speech. The people I am trying to save and help let them put the rope around my neck and hang me.

Ok my opponents will say my own big mouth probably hangs my self and there is some truth to this. A lot of this is trying to shut up my voice so I will stop exposing so many things. This is my final comments on this post. I don't have time for this. I am off to Bali and singapore.

Catch my show, I jump over a full ball, I make a 2 in 2 masse like the one in the Hustler movie. I draw table length; I run the table using a $4 Kmart mop handle with no tip on the end. I do shape my end of my wood mop into a dime shape however. You go oh there he goes bragging again, no, no; no brag, just fact, if I do it I am reporting a fact. Then is no brag, just fact. Who do you think really knows, me, the guy making the tip work and setting world records with it or the guy who glued the tip on the end of my stick for me for ten bucks. According to blud, who ever puts on the most tips then becomes the world wide guru and expert on this subject. I love the guy’s logic and how his brain works, it's amazing. Using his logic, does that mean if I have blopped my baloney more than any one else in the country then I am the worlds greatest lover? I would love to see Blud get on TV with Yogi Berra, I would tune in for that one for sure.

The best jump cue I have is my mop with no tip. Now the jump cue guys making cues will come in after me. The people who do not like me spilling the beans and telling it like it is and are on my case so much are the ones who are my competitors or the ones selling and promoting the thing I just went after. The play is let’s gang up, trash the guy, hurt him bad, then he will shut up and never bother us again. That is why nobody in pool will say a damn thing, they are all afraid to speak out on anything. The result is there is no free speech in the game and why it's hard to find so many things out. There is no free speech because you won't protect the ones who do speak out in your behalf.
 
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Not to start it again...because larry has..........but......Honor your word? Who here said they would never post here again? But still does?
 
Blah...Blah Blah...Blah Blah. To quote Jackie Gleason "Play pool Fast Eddie". Who gives a hoot what anyone thinks about your game...'your' meaning 'anyones'. Crap, I beat a guy in a tournament the other day who was using a homemade modified wood baseball bat for the butt end of a cue (that he lathed down slimmer). If he ran racks I wouldn't say a word. Who cares what size tip you use. If you run racks with a nickle,dime, dollar use it. All this mindless bickering is pointless. All this hatred spewed forth as electrons over the internet causing all this shite. Stuff that wouldn't be said with the same tone face to face. But that's the beauty of the internet. Use what you use and let it be that.
 
Joseph Cues said:
I think Blud already left the building.
He's on his way to the airport.:D


Fast has left the building as well and both are going to end up in Japan at the same time. They can rent two samauri swords and settle it there. :D
 
A real pool player can pick up a housecue and play with it....the player adjust to the playing conditions of the cue, the table, the felt etc....it does not matter what the tip shape is ....a real pool player would adjust to the present equipment at hand....

i have several cues and darn it I pay real attention to the tip shape..some are flat, some are rounded same are even more or less pointed hehehe....you know what... I can play with all those cues...
 
fast larry said:
According to blud, who ever puts on the most tips then becomes the world wide guru and expert on this subject.
Uhhhhhmmmm...excuse me, but that would mean that I am the world wide guru!!!
 
Don't think you have caught up as yet Ted. I been at it 32 years and still tippin. . You ain't much older than that, my man...

But who's counting?
I guess fast is....

your darn sure next in line, and closing pretty fast
Another couple years, you will most likly catch up.....

That crap fast says,quote fast, [according to Blud,who ever puts on the most tips then becomes the world wide guru, and expert on this subject]., is just that, crap........

He's just out there stiring again. Puttin his name in lights.

fast is a first class trouble maker. he's proven this time and again.

rock on Teddy,

blud
 
Micktmason said:
who really cares about"trick" shots anyway? when do you really need to draw 20 feet? Most persons are concerned about winning their matches, not shooting a 5 rail shot with a pineapple on their head. And whatever tip shape and style would help win more matches. FL needs a litttle humility I think

DO YOU EVER WATCH TV OR ESPN, IF YOU DO YOU SAW WONDER DOG doing trick shots with his nose and playing for a $25,000 first prize on national TV this year. You see Mike Massey and Tom Rossman play for and both win $25,000 playing trick shots on national TV, Trick shot magic, ESPN. Name me how many 9 ball events this year in the us had a first place prize of 25k or above. The main people touring doing this are making a lot more money than the 9 ballers are. Artistic is the future dude, 9 ball is the past. To answer your question of why you shoot trick shots with a apple on your head is simple, that is where the money is, that is why.

The skill level required to do this is so far above what the 9 ballers posses it dwarfs them. Every one of them who ever came in to play us got his head handed to him on a platter. This is a sport now, just like snooker, billiards or 9 ball. Show these champions their due respect sir.

I am right now being paid big bucks to tour the world so people can see my trick shots. If I had stayed with 9 ball I would still be playing for $20 a rack in the back room of Billy Joe Bob's and nobody outside of a 3 square mile radius would know who I was when I died. Trick shots got me seen and exposed to l/6th of the planet, 1 billion people.

9 ball leaves you broke and it is a sick game for losers. It's nothing but a back room gambling game. It's a game of luck, Artistic is 100% pure skill, there is zero luck in it. Only a very small handful ever make any money off of 9 ball. Mike Sigel won 100 9 ball events and ended up dead broke and walked away from the game in his prime disgusted with it for the very reasons I outlined.

You people knocking Artistic pool, need to wake up and smell the coffee, it ain't 1955 no more, it's 2003 and a new game is in town and it ain't 9 ball. Hey, somebody hand me a pineapple, I will blindfolded spit this ball out of my mouth and it will go 7 rails and pot the 9 in the corner and the fruit wont fall off of my head. You make fun of this, but learning to do these things insures you have a solid 6 figure income for life and you can keep earning that well into your 80's, can you do that playing 9 ball?

Playing 9 ball on tour insures if you come in 11th place you make 11 grand and pay all of your expenses, you pay 12 grand to travel to make 11 grand. Yes your right, 9 ball is the way to go and trick shots are stupid. Damn, thanks for explaining that one to me. I am so stupid I just could not figure that one out. :D
 
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Wow Larry. I sure am glad I have only played this game "9 ball" for 10 years. I'm gonna quit now. I,m also going to quit straight pool, one pocket. Hell if I can,t beat your dog I might as well hang it up. I mean Damn just listening to you talk I can,t believe anybody would play this game I,m just wondering who is better wonder dog or fast larry. I personally dont care because I don't play 9 ball at a professional level I play at my level. ( BUT I'LL BET THE BANK, TEXAS EXPRESS RULES, ME AGAINST WONDERDOG, RACE TO 7) and a double hit even with a NOSE is a foul !

You said

9 ball leaves you broke and it is a sick game for losers. It's nothing but a back room gambling game. It's a game of luck, Artistic is 100% pure skill, there is zero luck in it. Only a very small handful ever make any money off of 9 ball. Mike Sigel won 100 9 ball events and ended up dead broke and walked away from the game in his prime disgusted with it for the very reasons I outlined.

Well I'm not an artist ( I guess I'm just a loser ) because I like 9 ball. You are absolutely killing the game you proclaim to love. Is this the message you trying to send out. Do you brainwash all you students to hate 9 ball.

What a sad world when your dog pocketing a ball is more exciting to watch then Efren, Sigel, Rempe, Daulton, Duell and countless others , every other player even the ones at my local bar playing for a beer.
For me it is not but then ,I'm just a " loser " who likes 9 ball
 
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