Tipping the Tournament Directors

I think tipping, in an event like pool, can lead to people thinking that the field was fixed either this time or next time. plus, depending on the event, the TD could already be taking a HUGE CUT out of the prize money already. there's a local 3 state event around here where the money never seems to add up right.
 
I generally do tip if I win a tournament. TD's are running the show for roughly 12-14 hours a day. And it's not an easy job.

Part of me would like to see what amounts are taken out prior to the payout being figured. I recently saw approximately 20% taken out of the total prize pool for "Admin Costs", which came to $300. I don't know any of the associated costs in running a tour but I understand it has to be done. But part of that 20% is my money and I kind of would like to see an itemized list of what is taken out.

Christian
 
There are lots of dos and don'ts when it comes to this. Here's a list one can use:

1. Tipping Tournament Directors applies to tournaments held in a bar or poolroom, not at Valley Forge, Las Vegas, etc.

2. Tipping should only be done when cash prizes are given, not for qualifiers or for cash prizes that are meant for qualifier purposes.

3. In tours, as opposed to single events, it is considered not just customary but good practice to tip. Those borderline rulings like walking in two minutes past the deadline might be overlooked if you've tipped recently. In single events, they simply fail to have enough frequency to create customs so tipping shouldn't even be anticipated.

4. Tipping is reserved to top finishers, not all cash finishers. Typically, first place should tip approximately 10%. Second place should also tip but can leave whatever they want. If a deal is made, the tip should be worked out in the deal.

5. Unlike a waiter in a restaurant, the Tournament Director does not work for tips. In fact, even though it may be considered customary, it is not necessary. If a player fails to tip, nothing should be said about it. The rule of thumb is, if they win often enough, they will eventually catch on.


However, even though I've typically tipped in the past, I'm not 100% certain what I would do in a scenario where the tour director was also a participant in the field (as is typically the case in Joss events and Predator events). If the tour director finished high in the event, my tip may be less. However, finishing in the finals of a Joss or Predator event isn't going to happen for me any time soon but I'll gladly ponder such a predicament when the situation presents itself.

I also do not know what would happen in a major professional event like the U.S. Open. I would venture to say tipping is not common.

Would it be right to tip in a handicapped event?

It could lead to ones haddicap staying low.

Pete
 
Would it be right to tip in a handicapped event?

It could lead to ones haddicap staying low.

Pete

It absolutely could. That's part of the point. When that borderline decision arises (such as a late entry or a handicap bump), you will be treated favorably.
 
Forget tipping after you win. This is what is referred to as doing it the hard way. I find that I get quicker and more favorable results by giving the wheels a little pre-emptive greasing. Apply liberally with plenty of time before the draw. :groucho: :shocked2: :duck:
 
I had never heard of tipping a TD. Wouldn't it lead to favour towards certain players known for tipping?

I guess it all depends on your comfort level that the place/TD is running a legit tournament. I know most of the TD's in Arizona and know which places run good business.

We have a few tournaments that take a $2 greens fee from every player and that is for the TD. Those weekly's usually only pay $100 or so, so tipping is not necessary.

As far as favoring players, I think the tipping only really softens them up a little for when you are running a little late and have to call to get your name in before the draw, and maybe skip over your first match until you get there.

All the places I play at do the draw either on a computer or with cards or chips right in front of the players. All the money is posted right on the chart as well, including sidepots.

Obviously if the money didn't add up, tipping would be the last of my concerns.

But in a good well run tournament without any shady business, tipping is more than appropriate. It's a good page out of Pokers handbook. You win a big pot you tip the dealer who dealt you the cards. Plus you might get a few Karma points which can't hurt either.
 
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