To all road players: Boston Area Action
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I just wanna clarify one thing here, I'm not pointing fingers or choosing sides, or trying to get in the middle of anything. My question is this.
Was Tony Ruberto on the Hill? and how many ahead was the set?
Here is the way i picture it, without coming to any conclusions.
Tony Ruberto had you on the hill a few times and was on the hill when the money was stolen. He was generally beating you the whole day? I mean no offence here, I've never seen either of you shoot. Just seems so strange to me that someone would do this when they have been winning most of the day.
I promised not to come to conclusions, but, Maybe someone seperate from both parties stole it? Although, this seems almost impossible to me, considering it happened when you left the room, and there were a bunch of people from his side standing around.
My Solution: I don't think i could have kept my mind straight and done this, but maybe you being a seasoned road player could have. What about just finishing the set? Whoever wins, thats who got stolen off. That way, only one of you gets stolen off, although the amount is twice as much.
Again I'm no roadie and my Posts on this matter should be taken with a grain of salt.
I think no matter how you play it, after the money is gone, you are gonna be the one getting raped here. Even if you had of played it out, its lose/lose for you and lose/maybe find out what happened for Tony. I seriously think Tony has to know SOMETHING though.
Did you confront him and/or ask him about the fairly high stakes Poker game he got into on the next day? I mean, if you aren't looking to incriminate yourself, i don't think you'd be in a high stakes poker game.
Was Tony Ruberto on the Hill? and how many ahead was the set?
Here is the way i picture it, without coming to any conclusions.
Tony Ruberto had you on the hill a few times and was on the hill when the money was stolen. He was generally beating you the whole day? I mean no offence here, I've never seen either of you shoot. Just seems so strange to me that someone would do this when they have been winning most of the day.
I promised not to come to conclusions, but, Maybe someone seperate from both parties stole it? Although, this seems almost impossible to me, considering it happened when you left the room, and there were a bunch of people from his side standing around.
My Solution: I don't think i could have kept my mind straight and done this, but maybe you being a seasoned road player could have. What about just finishing the set? Whoever wins, thats who got stolen off. That way, only one of you gets stolen off, although the amount is twice as much.
Again I'm no roadie and my Posts on this matter should be taken with a grain of salt.
I think no matter how you play it, after the money is gone, you are gonna be the one getting raped here. Even if you had of played it out, its lose/lose for you and lose/maybe find out what happened for Tony. I seriously think Tony has to know SOMETHING though.
Did you confront him and/or ask him about the fairly high stakes Poker game he got into on the next day? I mean, if you aren't looking to incriminate yourself, i don't think you'd be in a high stakes poker game.
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BTW, we are all kinda right about the poker.
In a limit game 40/80 would mean 1 round of betting each raise being 40 then the flop followed by a second round of betting at $40 a raise followed by the turn and a round of betting at $80 a raise followed by the river and a round of betting at $80 a raise.
In a No Limit or Pot Limit game it would indicate the size of the blinds. 40 being the small blind 80 being the large blind.
In a limit game 40/80 would mean 1 round of betting each raise being 40 then the flop followed by a second round of betting at $40 a raise followed by the turn and a round of betting at $80 a raise followed by the river and a round of betting at $80 a raise.
In a No Limit or Pot Limit game it would indicate the size of the blinds. 40 being the small blind 80 being the large blind.
Ponies!!!!!
I'm afraid your ponies are real stallons not just ponies and since I myself am still a pony it would be hard for me to race against other thouroghbreads that have already exceeded the pony stage that I am still in!!!!!!!! If you can think of a pony that wants to race please let me know....LJOHN
I'm afraid your ponies are real stallons not just ponies and since I myself am still a pony it would be hard for me to race against other thouroghbreads that have already exceeded the pony stage that I am still in!!!!!!!! If you can think of a pony that wants to race please let me know....LJOHN
liljon said:
Maybe we can get something together depending on who and what game you go for.
John,
Hey brother...this is Tommy Stathis here in Indiana (you beat me 11-9 on the winners side before you beat Shannon @ the Viking Final in Illinois). Tough luck on the Boston situation, man. You have to know that no matter what happens, there will always be the risk of some seriously shady moves when the $$$ amounts get high like you like them. There will always be some asshole that's trying to figure a way to get that cheese due to their inability to get it on the square (remember Jack Hines down in Memphis?). These are the types of situations that led to my retirement back in 2000. I've been out of the pool scene for 5 years and still have a ton of cash floating around the United States in loans and unpaid gambling debts, and never once has ANY of the people who owe me money made any attempt at making it right...NOT ONE!!! My phone number has never changed, and if any of these people that owe me lost my number, I'm easily found right here in Portage, Indiana. My point is this...don't count on anything good coming out of this situation. I figured this when I retired...nobody can say I owe them money I stiffed them out of, and I can quit with a good conscience. It got to the point that I was always in tough action while rarely being the favorite, and even when I out ran the nuts, I still got screwed alot of the time. So, best of luck resolving the situation, but don't hold your breath.
Tom
Hey brother...this is Tommy Stathis here in Indiana (you beat me 11-9 on the winners side before you beat Shannon @ the Viking Final in Illinois). Tough luck on the Boston situation, man. You have to know that no matter what happens, there will always be the risk of some seriously shady moves when the $$$ amounts get high like you like them. There will always be some asshole that's trying to figure a way to get that cheese due to their inability to get it on the square (remember Jack Hines down in Memphis?). These are the types of situations that led to my retirement back in 2000. I've been out of the pool scene for 5 years and still have a ton of cash floating around the United States in loans and unpaid gambling debts, and never once has ANY of the people who owe me money made any attempt at making it right...NOT ONE!!! My phone number has never changed, and if any of these people that owe me lost my number, I'm easily found right here in Portage, Indiana. My point is this...don't count on anything good coming out of this situation. I figured this when I retired...nobody can say I owe them money I stiffed them out of, and I can quit with a good conscience. It got to the point that I was always in tough action while rarely being the favorite, and even when I out ran the nuts, I still got screwed alot of the time. So, best of luck resolving the situation, but don't hold your breath.
Tom
If it's true, Tony need his arms and all his fingers broken.
vagabond said:
LOL, You're the guy that was hiding under the counter at Bogart's when Red came in and you tried to sneak out and got caught by him aren't you?
It needs FACE LIFT????? Ohhhh.....A face lift. Which one?
The place I have now or the old place?
You might not have liked the one now because of the reflective glass which would have caused you to see your face.
I'll take a picture of the place and put it on here and get opinions on what should be done if anything.
Thank you and have a nice day
Vagabond,
You really should be more careful. Don't believe what you read in the papers. The mob is very much alive and kicking, especially here in Chicago. This would have never happened here without serious repercussions. I guess you can get away with it in Boston.
You really should be more careful. Don't believe what you read in the papers. The mob is very much alive and kicking, especially here in Chicago. This would have never happened here without serious repercussions. I guess you can get away with it in Boston.
OMG! You have seen Vagabond????? You may be the only one. I have never heard of any other Vagabond sightings...I thought he was like Bigfoot, as his existence could never be proven. I promise I will not back down until I have caught the mysterious Vagabond!!!!stevelomako said:
landshark77 said:
Hi land shark,
He has not met me.I am from the South.Steve`s Father-in-Law (Corn Bread Red) is a Legendary pool player.one time I posted on the board about my memories of that Great Man during my visits to Midwest.The incident Steve was describing was one of the things I posted.Cheers
Vagabond
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vagabond said:
Ohhhh we know who you are, don't worry about that. You're not easy to pin down but if I get any heat I'll let Landshark know what I know and it'll be curtains for you buddy boy.
P.S.
By FACE LIFT....are you referring to Reds picture that was hanging up there?
If so I guess I couldn't argue with you there. LOL
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im really tight wit tony and i was there that night-
u guys gotta get a life-come on here and just side up against tony cuz this happened in boston u dont even know what happened??JAM said:Hi, Stevelomako!Congrats on your fine finish of last week, BTW!
As I previously posted, I agree that there are THREE sides to this story: Little John's, Tony's, and the TRUTH. None of us posters here on AzBilliards Discussion Forum were present in Boston when the alleged theft [34 dimes underneath the pool table] occurred.
Maybe Tony Ruberto sought counsel from the Detroit seasoned roadster, and if I was in Tony's shoes, I'd be doing the same thing. I'll betcha the "wise man" [pun intended] advised Tony after the fact, of course, that it was poor judgment relating to the placement of the post.
From what I can gather through snippets of conversations on the phone which occurred before, during, and immediately after the incident with involved parties, I truly believe that Little John got ripped off.
Whether it was Tony Ruberto or any of his cohorts cannot be confirmed with any proof at this time.
It could have been a friendly railbird waiting to pounce when nobody was looking.
When players engage in games of high stakes for a lengthy period of time, their concentration and focus is on the game at hand. I've seen strange things happen in these tension-filled scenarios, as I'm sure you have.
I don't think the post, and what happened to it, will ever be revealed, but this should be a wake-up call to those who do engage in games of stake. If it was me and mine, I would have NEVER taken my eyes off that envelope, and it sure wouldn't have been laying on the floor in full view, tempting the scoundrels and scallywags.
An ounce of prevention goes a long way, and the 34 dimes should have NEVER have been placed underneath that table. Hopefully, there's a lesson to be learned, even though, as it turns out, it is a quite expensive one for those who did get ripped off in Boston.
JAM
tmoney said:
I did state that there are three sides to this story: Little John's, Tony's, and the TRUTH. AND no matter how you deal the cards, Tmoney, the fact of the matter is that Little John got ripped off in Boston for 17 dimes.
Here's the chronological order of events:
Round No. 1, Tony Ruberto beats Little John their first encounter in Boston.
Little John asked for a rematch, and Tony Ruberto agrees. Round No. 2, Little John beats Tony Ruberto. Little John is winner at this point in time.
Round No. 3, Tony and Little John agree to post up 17 dimes each, winner take all. A friend of Little John's from Slidel was en route to Boston to see this match-up, but unfortunately, it commenced before he arrived. Little John was accompanied by one person, though, who was sitting railside during this set. Due to sleep deprivation, his companion did nod off throughout the duration of the set because of the length of time which had transpired.
Little John battles with Tony back and forth, and at one point, Tony gets on the hill. Little John never gives up and got himself back to EVEN, after many hours. Little John, hoping to keep his momentum going, decides to take a rest room break before he gets back in the pit, looking forward to starting from EVEN after weathering the storm with Tony. When he steps up to the plate, he notices that the envelope containing the collective post of 34 dimes is missing from underneath the table, where it had been placed in full view for the duration of the set.
Yep, Little John got ripped off in Yankee country. His only mistake was thinking that most people in Boston -- a player, a stakehorse, and/or a railbird -- were gentleman gamblers, like the ones he grew up with down South. It is unfortunate that SOMEBODY -- an unknown entity at this point -- actually did rip off that post in Boston. If this little scenario had happened down South, it would have been handled quite differently (IMO).
JAM
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liljon said:
Well said. I think AMC and his posts are more of a cockwaving "look at who I know!" thing on these boards then a real attempt to get action. I mean Corey duel offering to gamble is not exactly a groundbreaking shock to anyone, no shit he will gamble. We really needed a thread to find that one out! I suggest they all jump a plane and go to the Phillipines, they will have lineups of people looking to match up.