It hasn't jarred me yet, as long as I don't have to play this hillbilly pool you're talking about.
to hell with call shots...anyone else gone back to "slop" and loving it?
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It hasn't jarred me yet, as long as I don't have to play this hillbilly pool you're talking about.
Meh, hillbilly pool is better than the kind of pool dictated by an inability to shoot unless your joint, inlays, and balance point are a specific decimal to the 7th place.
That's an interesting thing to hear. Usually you hear things being said the other way around. I don't think I could play slop for any real period of time and enjoy it. I play it that way with my kids, but I can't stand it against any real competition.
Call all kisses hillbilly pool blows.
When I lived in Parker, CO if two balls were close together you had to call a "split", and if either ball went in, it counted.
Kind of defeats the purpose of playing hillbilly pool in the first place..."Ima gonna split em"
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Poker has a very high "luck factor" and that helps the sport, because the weaker players really do have a chance to win, if they get lucky enough (over a somewhat short period of time)
You could make the same argument for pool. If the better players win all the time, some of the weaker players will just quit....
(some will be motivated to practice, some will just quit)
You could make the same argument for pool. If the better players win all the time, some of the weaker players will just quit....
(some will be motivated to practice, some will just quit)
Poker? really? I've always been told by poker players that there is a real science to it, formulas and equations, that the draw is by chance (usually), but when the cards are out there is very little luck involved. I've watched poker, but stayed away from it because the real players scare the crap outta me
Contrary to popular belief, slop does not only apply to bangers in seedy dive bars playing their special house bar rules.
I have heard their is a very popular League that allows said 'slop' in 8 ball by rewarding 'slop' with keeping the table for more potential slop and perhaps the match and a patch.
I would wager that their attitude is it's 'good for the game'. But me thinks it's good for LO's wallet.
-Kat,
I have heard their is a very popular League that allows said 'slop' in 8 ball by rewarding 'slop' with keeping the table for more potential slop and perhaps the match and a patch.
I would wager that their attitude is it's 'good for the game'. But me thinks it's good for LO's wallet.
-Kat,
What I noticed.
It appears to me that the more skilled a player is the less luck is a decider in who wins the game. Most of the luck I have seen in 9 Ball, at least where I live, has came from mediocre players on crappy bar box tables with huge corner pockets and dead rails.
Good players on good 9' tables don't rely on "luck" to win a game, that is proven by the professional players and the matches they play.
Is the average game of bar box 8 Ball a highly skilled game? How about all the bar box 9 Ball played in the thousands of bars across the nation every week end, is it really played by skilled players? Or is it played by people who are just having fun and are content with where their skill level is?
Playing 10 Ball or applying the same rules to 9 Ball is easy to do and I see nothing wrong with it, I also see nothing wrong with good old fashioned 9 Ball.
It ain't like the majority of this nations players have mastered 9 Ball and need more of a challenge. I know I haven't.
It appears to me that the more skilled a player is the less luck is a decider in who wins the game. Most of the luck I have seen in 9 Ball, at least where I live, has came from mediocre players on crappy bar box tables with huge corner pockets and dead rails.
Good players on good 9' tables don't rely on "luck" to win a game, that is proven by the professional players and the matches they play.
Is the average game of bar box 8 Ball a highly skilled game? How about all the bar box 9 Ball played in the thousands of bars across the nation every week end, is it really played by skilled players? Or is it played by people who are just having fun and are content with where their skill level is?
Playing 10 Ball or applying the same rules to 9 Ball is easy to do and I see nothing wrong with it, I also see nothing wrong with good old fashioned 9 Ball.
It ain't like the majority of this nations players have mastered 9 Ball and need more of a challenge. I know I haven't.
Anybody can win a particular hand in poker, even if they have by far the worst of it with one card to come. It is very easy to overestimate your skill in poker short term. You get lucky a couple times and think you are a great player.
You win long term based on continually getting your money in in profitable situations. Say you are a 70% favorite to win a hand Yes, you will win some and lose some but every time that situation arises you are making money in theory.
Better players widen the gap as more hands are played.
I guess you could say that there is a fair amount of luck in any particular hand but almost no luck over the course of a large number of hands.
It is pretty easy to see if you are outclassed when playing pool. No amount of luck will help most players beat even a mid level pro over a race to 9 or 11.
I was playing one pocket last week & I was banking a ball across corner from near the foot rail & it skimmed off a ball near the spot & then dribbled into the pocket.
I felt embarrassed & made the comment that perhaps we should play call your shot.
In a game of skill as much luck should be taken out as possible, IMO.
I think I would actually like call your shot one pocket. Those banked & kicked caroms & combos would be a bit different, I think.
All Best Wishes for All.
I felt embarrassed & made the comment that perhaps we should play call your shot.
In a game of skill as much luck should be taken out as possible, IMO.
I think I would actually like call your shot one pocket. Those banked & kicked caroms & combos would be a bit different, I think.
All Best Wishes for All.
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100%. Call the ball and the pocket.....that's it. Saves petty arguments over bs like touching a rail or brushing another ball
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That's pretty funny.
You just described how you executed a typical one pocket shot, while playing one pocket.
Hillbilly bar box 8ball is bad enough, now you want to play hillbilly one hole?
the last golden age of pool...nine balll.....incorporated slop
as does snooker
and carom
as does snooker
and carom
I don't know if you read my post correctly. (the ball my intended ball hit was way out by the spot)
In the area that I'm in, most pool bars & better players play call SHOT 8 ball.
We call caroms etc. We call everything & if something happens that you did not call, the shot is no good.
There is even one player that plays 'clean' 8 ball, in the you can NOT even use the opponents ball at all, no combos or caroms or any use of an opponents ball is allowed to be used for pocketing a ball.
As I said, I think in a game of skill, luck should taken out as much as possible.
ALL Best Wishes for ALL.
Basketball is a game of skill, yet this happens, and it's great. Fans eat that shit up like candy.
Same goes for pool. The fans love seeing a little luck.
Now I know what some might say. Oh, but when I'm gambling, I don't care about the fans. Well...
1. If you're such a nit that you'll only play call shot because you think it favors your "skill", then that's not gambling.
2. Good luck getting a fish to bite by forcing them to play call shot.
Even a call shot game like straight pool has a little luck in the break shot.
You play slop ball all you want.
There is some luck in other aspects of the game, but in a game that may require the greatest amount of skill based from those that have played golf & pool, I do not think one should get credit for making a ball that they basically missed what they intended to do.
ALL Best Wishes for All.