To Mark Tadd, thanks for the memories, Love Tons'O'fun

drivermaker said:
OK...for starters, answer Fred's post. That's a good one on breaking and your insights would be appreciated by one and all.
ive never had the best or a great break and dont feel qualified to give my oppinion on it.
 
Fred Agnir said:
Maybe you should put less effort on defending yourself. Defending yourself isn't going to get anyone anywhere, considering nobody feels they're attacking.

I'd rather hear war stories, practice sessions, useful tidbits, and what it took to get over the hump.

Fred
ok sound good but i didnt spend 80+ post the last few days arguing with myself i hope. to post 80 posts i had to have at least 70 replies to respond to.
 
mark tadd said:
ive never had the best or a great break and dont feel qualified to give my oppinion on it.


Then what do you think the strong part of your game is/was that you can shed some light on? Christ...throw out SOME KIND of bone with a little meat on it.

Come to think of it, you can STILL answer the break questions. Even if you had a bad break...maybe your answers will shed some light on what NOT to do to get a Mark Tadd break.
 
mark tadd said:
you cant expect me to answer every question. i dont answer every critisism either. sometime i forget to answer questions . but there are no ascuses if you pm or email me and i dont answer then shame on me

Fair enough. I look forward to your future posts.

Dave
 
drivermaker said:
Then what do you think the strong part of your game is/was that you can shed some light on? Christ...throw out SOME KIND of bone with a little meat on it.

Come to think of it, you can STILL answer the break questions. Even if you had a bad break...maybe your answers will shed some light on what NOT to do to get a Mark Tadd break.

well strong parts of game? please be more spacific . as for my opinion on the break. i dont like giving my opinion if it not correct. when i come up with a solid answer that is true i will post on the break peace :D
 
mark tadd said:
what does verbal skills and writing have to do with teaching? when i learned pool and figured out the things that i have, i didnt have to hear any flamboyent words or read any technical manuscripts on how to play the game.

you said, "Teaching is an art form, as is playing pool. Two separte entities." id like to know how are they separate entities. i think this is more of an opinion than a fact until proven.

Mark...As a professional instructor, I feel qualified to answer this question. A GREAT teacher needs excellent verbal skills in order to be able to effectively communicate with a wide variety of students. I often use different language when working with children vs. adults. Sometimes I explain something differently to a woman than a man. A senior will understand something differently, in many cases, than a teenager. They use different language styles and metafors for comprehension.
If a student doesn't understand a particular concept, and tells me so, I can explain it several different ways, until they DO understand it clearly. Writing skills are clearly important in helping students to get answers to questions they ask...in writing. Another hallmark of a great teacher, is continuing education, rather than continuing with 'old school' concepts of teaching. There are new ways of teaching and learning that are being developed every day. Our better instructors and pool schools are constantly evolving to utilize these methods, to provide a better learning experience for our students.

SOME pros have the communication skills to be good teachers, provided they don't let their egos get in the way. IMO, most lack these skills, as they have not pursued getting enough education to provide a base for others to understand (Please understand that I am not attacking you personally, nor your decision to live your life the way you see fit). Although this may not have been true for you (when you quit school in Pocatello), and I agree that it has not hampered many other "pros" from gaining the street knowledge necessary to excel at the game...it has, imo, everything to do with whether or not a pro may or may not be even a decent teacher, let alone a great one.

I am not now, nor ever was a 'world beater' player, but, like you, I made a successful living gambling pool for many years. Surely you know that you don't have to be a champion to make a living gambling? I never make claims of being the best player, but I play well enough to be able to demonstrate concepts that can enable someone to become a great player. I am considered by many to be one of the better instructors out there, and I credit my communcation skills, both written and verbal, for that.
Jenny is correct in her assessment. Playing and teaching are two separate entities. History shows that the best teachers in any sport were, and are, typically not the best competitors.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
La Open 93

Hello Mark,
You probaly won't remember me, but we spent a little time chatting at the Bank, one-pocket 9-ball event at he LA X Marriot.

You did real well back then but it seems you are more bent on proving yourself in this forum then you were in 93 to the endless pros you sent home in that tournament.

This is the general public of pool talking in these forums. You are a great player, but to me it sounds like your ego is disrupting your words.

People here would just like to know more about you, what made you a great player and maybe why your not playing anymore.

For me, I remember you saying (in 93) that there was something missing in your life. Have you found it and if so please share with us what it was and if not lighten up. we are just he commoners here and for me, I just want to wish you the very best in life.
 
Banker Burt said:
Hello Mark,
You probaly won't remember me, but we spent a little time chatting at the Bank, one-pocket 9-ball event at he LA X Marriot.

You did real well back then but it seems you are more bent on proving yourself in this forum then you were in 93 to the endless pros you sent home in that tournament.

This is the general public of pool talking in these forums. You are a great player, but to me it sounds like your ego is disrupting your words.

People here would just like to know more about you, what made you a great player and maybe why your not playing anymore.

For me, I remember you saying (in 93) that there was something missing in your life. Have you found it and if so please share with us what it was and if not lighten up. we are just he commoners here and for me, I just want to wish you the very best in life.


I doubt he is trying to prove himself to the general public, he has no reason to, just ask the people he has played. The guy was world I mean WORLD class, His opinion is very valued to alot of us. I guess I was one of the lucky ones who actually got to meet, watch, and talk with him a bit. I hope what he was missing in 93 was happiness and i for sure hope he found it. If so I'll bet he is as light as a feather. Pease, Rich,

PS. Don't mistake ego for knowlege,
 
Rich Reheard said:
I doubt he is trying to prove himself to the general public, he has no reason to, just ask the people he has played. The guy was world I mean WORLD class, His opinion is very valued to alot of us. I guess I was one of the lucky ones who actually got to meet, watch, and talk with him a bit. I hope what he was missing in 93 was happiness and i for sure hope he found it. If so I'll bet he is as light as a feather. Pease, Rich,

PS. Don't mistake ego for knowlege,

ty rich , i have no reason to prove myself for those that know me i think its was done in the past .i did however post a few storys of my life as growing up for those who wanted to know . and got very little response which is fine so what else do you guys want . almost all players i played wanted the 8 or more when i played including keith and he didnt like it on several occasions . since jam said it was laughable she can ask him..........hope i dont get slammed with bieng a ego maniac again its just a fact. if i dont post im a bad guy if i do im an eago maniac go figure :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
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mark tadd said:
ty rich , i have no reason to prove myself for those that know me i think its was done in the past .i did however post a few storys of my life as growing up for those who wanted to know . and got very little response which is fine so what else do you guys want . almost all players i played wanted the 8 or more when i played including keith and he didnt like it on several occasions . since jam said it was laughable she can ask him..........hope i dont get slammed with bieng a ego maniac again its just a fact. if i dont post im a bad guy if i do im an eago maniac go figure :confused: :confused: :confused:

No problems Mark, like they say you can lead a Horse to water !! But feel free to post away I enjoy what you have to share! Do you remember playing in York PA ? We took you around to a few places and you cleaned house. Way to much fun, For this gut to explain I guess its eaiser to see perfection then to explain it lol

Peace Rich
 
mark tadd said:
well strong parts of game? please be more spacific . as for my opinion on the break. i dont like giving my opinion if it not correct. when i come up with a solid answer that is true i will post on the break peace :D


OK Mark...I'll go along with that. If breaking wasn't your strong suit...I'd have to say you were one shootin' sumbitch then with the ability to knock balls in and move whitey pretty good.

So tell me how YOU like to apply english. You played against Buddy...he likes to twist his wrist just a little and use what he calls tuck and roll. Some guys use backhand english. How do YOU like to set up to the ball when you have a cut shot to hit it for english and what do you do?
 
drivermaker said:
OK Mark...I'll go along with that. If breaking wasn't your strong suit...I'd have to say you were one shootin' sumbitch then with the ability to knock balls in and move whitey pretty good.

So tell me how YOU like to apply english. You played against Buddy...he likes to twist his wrist just a little and use what he calls tuck and roll. Some guys use backhand english. How do YOU like to set up to the ball when you have a cut shot to hit it for english and what do you do?


Bump, bump, bumpety bump....Ooooohh MARK....Ooooohh MARKY......
Got one for you here Mark.....you're not going to disappoint me and turn back into the Mark of old...are you now??? :confused:
 
Fred Agnir said:
Maybe you should put less effort on defending yourself. Defending yourself isn't going to get anyone anywhere, considering nobody feels they're attacking.

I'd rather hear war stories, practice sessions, useful tidbits, and what it took to get over the hump.

Fred

Tap! Tap! I've seen Leonard Bludworth and FasT Larry
go nuts over stuff posted about them. Lighten up,
Mark Tadd, you know what pool room characters are
like.
 
drivermaker said:
OK Mark...I'll go along with that. If breaking wasn't your strong suit...I'd have to say you were one shootin' sumbitch then with the ability to knock balls in and move whitey pretty good.

So tell me how YOU like to apply english. You played against Buddy...he likes to twist his wrist just a little and use what he calls tuck and roll. Some guys use backhand english. How do YOU like to set up to the ball when you have a cut shot to hit it for english and what do you do?

DM, I'm beginning to think Tadd is deliberately not
answering your questions. It's kind of funny actually.
 
bruin70 said:
IS THERE SOMETHING WEIRD GOING ON HERE?,,,,or hasn't anyone else caught it?

this isn't mark tadd posting!!!! not if you compare the diction on this thread with the diction on "mark tadd's" other posts! i would love to read what tadd has to say,,,but please,,,the real mark tadd.

Tadd decided to use a designated poster on his last
post. And a jolly good one I might add.
 
Scott Lee said:
Mark...As a professional instructor, I feel qualified to answer this question. A GREAT teacher needs excellent verbal skills in order to be able to effectively communicate with a wide variety of students. I often use different language when working with children vs. adults. Sometimes I explain something differently to a woman than a man.
www.poolknowledge.com

I agree. Good instructors spend a great deal of time understanding their students. They are better equipped and adapted to transferring the knowledge. Good players can also teach, but they focus more of their energy on playing rather than teaching, the result will most likely not be as complete. Like anything else, the more focused a person is the better the results.
 
This probably won't go over well, but I feel that you don't really know something unless you are capable of doing it. I can look at a golf swing - even a professional's golf swing - and pretty much understand what is going on and why. I may even see something that doesn't look right in their swing. However, I can't say that I *know* how to swing the club like them because I can't *do* it. For that reason, I'm not qualified to teach anyone else to swing a golf club. There are a few pool instructors (Randy G. being one) who can also play, but there are a lot of instructors out there who would have a tough time competing with any local 'B' player. I have to question how those people can teach someone else to play at a high level when they don't know how to do it themselves. That isn't to say they have no useful information but, as a student, I wouldn't expect any information that would get me past the level that my instructor was capable of playing himself (or herself). I do think there are exceptions to this rule but, in general, I would have a tough time believing there is no truth to what I've just said.
 
Jimmy M. said:
This probably won't go over well, but I feel that you don't really know something unless you are capable of doing it. I can look at a golf swing - even a professional's golf swing - and pretty much understand what is going on and why. I may even see something that doesn't look right in their swing. However, I can't say that I *know* how to swing the club like them because I can't *do* it. For that reason, I'm not qualified to teach anyone else to swing a golf club. There are a few pool instructors (Randy G. being one) who can also play, but there are a lot of instructors out there who would have a tough time competing with any local 'B' player. I have to question how those people can teach someone else to play at a high level when they don't know how to do it themselves. That isn't to say they have no useful information but, as a student, I wouldn't expect any information that would get me past the level that my instructor was capable of playing himself (or herself). I do think there are exceptions to this rule but, in general, I would have a tough time believing there is no truth to what I've just said.

Jimmy,

No offense but what you're suggesting was the prevalent attitude in the ph's that I grew up in. If anyone that wasn't a world beater ever tried to show someone something, they got laughed out of the house. I have to agree with Jam and Scott that coaches, teachers, instructors et. al. all have skills that are necessary for the transfer of knowledge. Pro players of any sport do not necessarily have these skills. That doesn't mean that some pros don't but if they do, they're very fortunate. All you have to do is look at all the other sports out there. How many football coaches, tennis coaches, baseball coaches were great players? Like I said, some were good at the sport they teach but not all of them were because more disseminating information and inspiring players to excel involves having certain skills which usually is mutually exclusive to excelling in their sport.
 
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