To Mark Tadd, thanks for the memories, Love Tons'O'fun

[Rich Reheard]

I don't know, it's still rambling, incoherent, rife with spelling and grammar errors. I can't read posts like that, I'm not brave enough.

There you go, You type better you are more elloquent. therefore you are smarter then Mark. If he still gambled you definenitly would be "Tons of Fun" expecially if you had any cash !! You feel like you can't win one battle so you try to pray on something else. One fact is true f_cktard If I could learn from you or Mark ( the guy I saw practice his break for 8 hours, at Chattanooga Billiards, while he still played world class) the guy (I saw offer Tony Ellen and everyone else in the place the 7) the guy I met personally who would give an answer to any question you had if asked, I would chose Mark. Maybe some of us here want to hear what he has to say.I know that might sound absurd to the AZ Fourm Police, But so what. Start another what is the best tip thread, or pradator pros and cons thread and let people who know that don't mean shit, read what they feel is important

Rich

 

[SpiderWeb]

M. T.

RR I couldn't agree more. Its always nice to hear from someone that has been there and done it than to hear the wannabes or never was ones. I saw him play many time at Cue Topia and there was never a dull moment. He was the best of the best period.
I Saw him play Santos many years ago and he had Santos 9 to 3 going to 13 and it was Santos 13 to 9 both sets. Mark didn't lose because he played bad, it was just that Santos never missed. No one has ever played better than he did that nite.

 

[bruin70]

,,,,,,,,,f_cktard,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Rich

wow. that's rather brutal.

 

[Colin Colenso]

I'm not trying to pray on Mark, I'm trying to get him to stop praying upon people

...Nice malapropism!
I think the word you were looking for is prey.

But if not, it's nice to see you are praying upon each other. Bless the Lord!

btw. google up 'Logical fallacy claim to authority'
and also
'Remove the timber from thine own eye, before pointing at the splinters in another's'.

 

[LastTwo]

I'm not trying to pray on Mark, I'm trying to get him to stop praying upon people who are offering advice they believe in. Advice they offered up with only the best of intentions.

Mark may be an amazing pool player, but by the looks of his grammar and writing skills he's at about a grade 5 level. I never said I was smarter than him, but it wouldn't be hard. Okay, now I'm saying I am smarter than him.

Ironically, Mark has officially dubbed himself to be the forum police. He says that he won't be scared off by the B players trying to hold everyone back. He's said it's his mission to dispel every bit of bad advice in order to protect the naive beginners who may be hurt by it.

So Mark was a pro, he gets a free pass to be an a-hole?. No one can question him or any other good player?. Boy, you guys are like lemmings, and it never ends well for lemmings.

Congratulations on recieving the first offical Azbilliards Hypocrite of the Year Award.

 

[Snapshot9]

Not to throw a monkey wrench or anything ...

but I have found that just because someone is good at
a sport doesn't necessarily make them a great teacher.
They might give you useful tips, but as far as being able
to relate useful information about the sport in
a good manner, they may not have the communication
skills or be able to describe things in a manner that a
student can understand and learn.

We all can learn something new if we maintain an open
mind, have a willingness to learn. Students usually pick
their own mentors. I certainly would not disregard an
expert's opinion, but I will decide how valid it is or not.

 

[mark tadd]

IS THERE SOMETHING WEIRD GOING ON HERE?,,,,or hasn't anyone else caught it?

this isn't mark tadd posting!!!! not if you compare the diction on this thread with the diction on "mark tadd's" other posts! i would love to read what tadd has to say,,,but please,,,the real mark tadd.

yes it is me. i type better if i slow down just takes longer. everthing that is typed as 'mark tadd', no caps, is me. any other spelling in any forum is not me.

 

[mark tadd]

The guys been running around telling everyone they are wrong in huge essays, and I'm making a public spectacle?.

I don't think Mark knows any other emmotion but anger. The point of my thread was to tell him to chill and take this forum with a grain of salt.

He thinks he can single handedly "fix" this forum by making people stop giving bad advice. Ridiculous.

If you want to strap your wagon onto this nuts horse, go right ahead, but he doesn't speak for me.

im not saying everyones wrong just you. you seem to be the only one that says your advice is on par with the pros and that one persons opinion is as good as anothers. that might work in politics but it doesnt in pool.

as far as fixing this forum, im not trying to fix the forum but if someone asks me a question or responds in a negative way to advice that i give , again i say, prove it.

 

[mark tadd]

LOL. I'm not going to address the first sentence, but it's kind of comical (IMO). Sometimes these threads seem to turn into a contest of who's the best this, who's the best that, et cetera, and to me, it's like a muscle-flexing exercise.

I will just add to the fray and state my 2 cents. Just because a player is a so-called "pro" or someone who has played in pro-caliber tournaments or played well at one point in their life DOES NOT mean that they would be a good teacher. Teaching is a whole separate entity and requires a variety of skills, one being a good communicator, whether verbally or in writing.

A pro player may know how to draw his rock two table lengths and get position in an obscure corner of the table, but have him/her explain it in words to a layperson, they may not possess the necessary skills set.

Having said all of the above, there are some teachers who can tell you how to do it, but they can't compete at the level of some pros and never will be able to.

Pro players can do it, and teachers can tell you how to do it. Teachers can't always do it, and pro players can't always tell you how they do it.

Teaching is an art form, as is playing pool. Two separte entities. JMHO, FWIW!

JAM

im a little confused on this statement,

Just because a player is a so-called "pro" or someone who has played in pro-caliber tournaments or played well at one point in their life DOES NOT mean that they would be a good teacher. Teaching is a whole separate entity and requires a variety of skills, one being a good communicator, whether verbally or in writing

I agree that not all pros can teach but i also know it depends on the caliber of the pro. this whole post seems to say that mark wouldn't be a good teacher but based on what? what are you basing this on?

i guarantee that any of the top 5 players in the world could also teach IF they wanted to. and what does writing have to do with teaching, except for maybe on a forum? what does verbal skills and writing have to do with teaching? when i learned pool and figured out the things that i have, i didnt have to hear any flamboyent words or read any technical manuscripts on how to play the game.

you said, "Teaching is an art form, as is playing pool. Two separte entities." id like to know how are they separate entities. i think this is more of an opinion than a fact until proven.

 

[mark tadd]

As the old buzzard near the end of The Jungle Book says "now don't start that again"

I don't know about anyone else, but I for one am going to ignore any Mark Tadd post. After reading them all from before and now, he is not providing any advice on pool (which I desperately need), rather he is criticising the forum in general and some participants in particular (which I don't need to read, I can easily make up my own mind, thank you very little). I am very interested in what a pro pool player has to say about pool. If that same person starts talking about ANY OTHER SUBJECT, then they are not speaking from their recognized expertise, which makes them an amateur on that subject. I believe that Mark Tadd is a amateur with respect to forum participation, and a pro when it comes to pool. If he/she/it/thebobot starts posting real pool content will someone please let me know so I can tune whatever in again ?

Thanks,

Dave

wow. well has anyone asked me any questions specifically about pool? and please dont say yes there was one or two. please be honest about the situation.

 

[drivermaker]

wow. well has anyone asked me any questions specifically about pool? and please dont say yes there was one or two. please be honest about the situation.

C'mon man...get f*#kin' serious. How 'bout I go back into the archives and pull up a WHOLE bunch?

 

[mark tadd]

C'mon man...get f*#kin' serious. How 'bout I go back into the archives and pull up a WHOLE bunch?

go ahead, pull em up, i want to see them. please make it more than two. and then go into the archives and pull up all the threads that ive posted defending myself. and then well see if i have time to answer anyones questions. i spend so much time defending myself and then when they do post im in the middle of defending myself so i dont have time to. if i dont get to them fast enough they disappear from the main forum.

i wasnt on yesterday so i dont know what was posted.

 

[drivermaker]

go ahead, pull em up, i want to see them. please make it more than two. and then go into the archives and pull up all the threads that ive posted defending myself. and then well see if i have time to answer anyones questions. i spend so much time defending myself and then when they do post im in the middle of defending myself so i dont have time to. if i dont get to them fast enough they disappear from the main forum.

i wasnt on yesterday so i dont know what was posted.

If YOU want to pull up the threads about defending yourself, go ahead. But I can guarantee you this...NOBODY and I mean NOBODY on here EVER disputed, or challenged what you said about playing the game or technique. And if you're saying they did....then you're full of shit.

How about we forget EVERYTHING in the past right up till today. If someone asks you a question about how to play the game or shoot, are you willing to take the time to answer with NO PUTOFFS or EXCUSES? Either yes or no, crawfishing and backpedaling is not necessary.

 

[Fred Agnir]

.i spend so much time defending myself and then when they do post im in the middle of defending myself so i dont have time to.

Maybe you should put less effort on defending yourself. Defending yourself isn't going to get anyone anywhere, considering nobody feels they're attacking.

I'd rather hear war stories, practice sessions, useful tidbits, and what it took to get over the hump.

Fred

 

[DaveK]

wow. well has anyone asked me any questions specifically about pool? and please dont say yes there was one or two. please be honest about the situation.

There are some :

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=8516

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=8448

You offered to answer an aiming with english question just last week, and never did. Tough to show you though as the entire thread is gone.

Dave, who decided to reply only because he challenged my claim, why I don't know

 

[Fred Agnir]

There are more, but here is one :

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=8516

You offered to answer an aiming with english question just last week, and never did. I cannot believe that you would contest your own commitments and inaction

Dave, who decided to reply only because he challenged my claim, why I don't know

Here's one that I still think Mark would be the best on the board to answer:

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=189110&postcount=20

Fred

 

[mark tadd]

If YOU want to pull up the threads about defending yourself, go ahead. But I can guarantee you this...NOBODY and I mean NOBODY on here EVER disputed, or challenged what you said about playing the game or technique. And if you're saying they did....then you're full of shit.

How about we forget EVERYTHING in the past right up till today. If someone asks you a question about how to play the game or shoot, are you willing to take the time to answer with NO PUTOFFS or EXCUSES? Either yes or no, crawfishing and backpedaling is not necessary.

ok , yes i will answer just like when ever people walked up to me throught the years . but if someone gives the THE ANSWER or BETTER ADVICE OR IM NOT SUER OR DONT KNOW THE ANSWER ,then there is no scene in me posting or screwing that up right? i may ever miss a question because in doing something else online or at home . so if thats the case then please dont wait for an opportunity to hang me and say (see i told you guys). AFTER ALL YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME OR PM SEE SO THERE ARE NO EXCUSES....

 

[drivermaker]

ok , yes i will answer just like when ever people walked up to me throught the years . but if someone gives the THE ANSWER or BETTER ADVICE OR IM NOT SUER OR DONT KNOW THE ANSWER ,then there is no scene in me posting or screwing that up right? i may ever miss a question because in doing something else online or at home . so if thats the case then please dont wait for an opportunity to hang me and say (see i told you guys). AFTER ALL YOU CAN ALWAYS EMAIL ME OR PM SEE SO THERE ARE NO EXCUSES....

OK...for starters, answer Fred's post. That's a good one on breaking and your insights would be appreciated by one and all.

 

[mark tadd]

LOL. I'm not going to address the first sentence, but it's kind of comical (IMO). Sometimes these threads seem to turn into a contest of who's the best this, who's the best that, et cetera, and to me, it's like a muscle-flexing exercise.

I will just add to the fray and state my 2 cents. Just because a player is a so-called "pro" or someone who has played in pro-caliber tournaments or played well at one point in their life DOES NOT mean that they would be a good teacher. Teaching is a whole separate entity and requires a variety of skills, one being a good communicator, whether verbally or in writing.

A pro player may know how to draw his rock two table lengths and get position in an obscure corner of the table, but have him/her explain it in words to a layperson, they may not possess the necessary skills set.

Having said all of the above, there are some teachers who can tell you how to do it, but they can't compete at the level of some pros and never will be able to.

Pro players can do it, and teachers can tell you how to do it. Teachers can't always do it, and pro players can't always tell you how they do it.

Teaching is an art form, as is playing pool. Two separte entities. JMHO, FWIW!

JAM

by the way i quit school at 16 to play pool. not ashamed to admit that .writing skills were never something that got in the way of my pool skills . and i read quit well. im glad somr of you put time in the past to learn how to read and write . but i had no intrest or i would have stayed in school.
but i could have probaly learned how to type if it was a must in my life but as you know pool and poker need no such skills imo

 

[mark tadd]

There are some :

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=8516

http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=8448

You offered to answer an aiming with english question just last week, and never did. Tough to show you though as the entire thread is gone.

Dave, who decided to reply only because he challenged my claim, why I don't know

you cant expect me to answer every question. i dont answer every critisism either. sometime i forget to answer questions . but there are no ascuses if you pm or email me and i dont answer then shame on me