To the negative spouse of the lawyer

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Danny Harriman

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I must say something on behalf of myself in response to the post"Danny the Loser." What the angry lawyer lady wife said is incorrect.The problem I had was not so much with the upa as it was Brady and Frank.Of course Brady owes me $ and Fraky's problem was he his bossy attitude about this membership fee, the negative posting lawyer lady said in her slanderase post is that i would not hve to pay my yearly upa due for 2005 at the Players Championship (Bicycle Club tournament 2005.) I beg to differ and thats an understatement, I got the impression from Frank Alvarez (UPA REP) that I was technically not a member of the UPA and demanded subtly that I pay them $100.00 for my yearly fee. This did upset me a great deal, how could he say that to me I wondered and not expext me to be outraged, this situation could have been handled in a much smoother fashion and he did not have to be so bossy about it. If I were in Franks position I would have held a private meeting either with the 4 players that were owed $ or maybe a board meeting to suggest a feasable way to resolve this issue of the players being owed $ from one of their own tournaments( UPA'S 2002 Mid Atlantic 9-ball Championship), which is not to be confused with the 09-11-01 US Open conflict involving Mika Immonen and Berry Behrman that was a unusual and tragic situation. Once all the board members were there I would have brought light to the fact that these four players who belonged to the UPA werestill unpaid and maybe not to pressure these players for their membership fee's cause of what was owed and not hastle them while they were TRYING to compete in these remaining UPA events.
As Frank was pressuring me Tony Robles (upa bored member) noticed I was getting perturbed and intervened but to my surprise he also wanted to know when I would be able to pay the infamous $100.00 dollar fee for yearly membership.My reply to that was and allways will be the same I pay yall when I get paid. You told one story right Miss lawyer spouse, the upa has been working in the court system to help get the players paid but to no avail only a lousy $150 has surfaced in over three and a half long years.Maybe there was some pressure from the other players as some are board members(none of which are owed $ from UPA sanctioned tournaments to my knowledge. At the time I could not afford to pay the $100.00 dollar fee and felt like a poor Missouri boy struggling as normal to make it from tournament to " " and even if I could I would not have paid with them owing me money. All of the players who are owed money have sponsors or backers but that does not change the fact that were owed. I understand that Frank has only good things to say about me and would like to see me back out there on his tour. I think Frank feels that the some players do not respect him possibly cause part of his job is to enforce the dress code and lay down the LAWS of the upa. I agree the players should look presentable or not be allowed to particapate in the events, Franky did let my upa dues slide for a while but the pressure did indeed get stronger, well I paid my dues over and over for not getting paid for my strong finish at one of their tournaments which was held over 3 and a half years ago. To the lawyer and his wife that may or may not be associated with the upa, you may look this up in a book for lawyers if you like but common sense tells me that the upa is partly responsable for their players not receiving their prize $.
I should add that I won a upa event over three years ago and never received a trophy for my win they kept saying that I would get it but I never did, it was the original Players Championship held in Del Ray Beach, Florida.
It was in fact my first Professional victory with most all of the great players in the world present. I never received a trophy and that would have been nice to have some day. I have two major titles (Derby City Bank Pool Champion,) and my 9- ball victory at the upa players championship, and never received a trophy for either. I guess thats just pool on the men's tour,I do think I will not compete in anymore redundant upa9-ball tournaments.
This matter has made me a little bitter but I got a call from the upa a week ago and there going to throw me a bone and come up off of $250.00 of the $1850.00 they owe even though I'm not a upa member any more, isn't that special? In other words even though were not friends they will still pay me what they owe. I'm not a loser or a quiter and there are other tours besides the upa
Sincererly (to my friends out there)
Danny Harriman
 
THe public's behind you, Danny

:p The public is 99.9% behind you Danny, no sensible person would not stand for the treatment you have gotten. THey should consider letting you run the UPA because it's obvious the people who are running it now are doing a bad job, they should not sanction the US OPen until you have all been paid 100% of what is owed to you all , including interest....Humphrey
 
danny,,,,,,,you're wasting your time. there's no need to explain anything any longer. i think lawyerwife is a troll
 
Danny,
We both know that her facts were mixed up, which is why she got so much heat on this board. I'll even go so far as to say she grossly misquoted Frank Alvarez and misrepresented the facts on the UPA's stance on this issue. The UPA will continue to assist Danny Harriman (as well as the other players owed money) in receiving payments from Brady Behrman.
 
Can anyone offer a reasonable explanation as to Why the UPA is not ultimately responsible for the purse?

They make and enforce the rules, it's their tournament...yada, yada.....but when the money is due, it is someone else holding the bag?


Dave
 
Hang in there Danny. Most of us could tell by his\her post that it was a Troll posting. They are easy to spot. I think most people here are behind you on this. Best Regards.! :cool:
 
Hi Gerald ...

jungledude said:
:p The public is 99.9% behind you Danny, no sensible person would not stand for the treatment you have gotten. THey should consider letting you run the UPA because it's obvious the people who are running it now are doing a bad job, they should not sanction the US OPen until you have all been paid 100% of what is owed to you all , including interest....Humphrey

Gerald ... Hi, This is Scott Fraser, Jr.'s friend. We are all waiting on Jr. getting back in Dec.. He has been playing on the 1 table they have at Stockton, Ks.
(rolling eyes) .... for awhile ...
 
cut shot said:
Hang in there Danny. Most of us could tell by his\her post that it was a Troll posting. They are easy to spot. I think most people here are behind you on this. Best Regards.! :cool:
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Troll, maybe is was Berman using an alais's?
 
jungledude said:
:p The public is 99.9% behind you Danny, no sensible person would not stand for the treatment you have gotten. THey should consider letting you run the UPA because it's obvious the people who are running it now are doing a bad job, they should not sanction the US OPen until you have all been paid 100% of what is owed to you all , including interest....Humphrey
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i 2ND that emotion and thought. Let a snake begin to wiggle, you cant stop it wiggling. Let a deadbeat begin to wiggle out of an obligation to pay, then let it get old, it never then gets paid, which is why banks write these things off. They should have cracked down on him and said pay up and in full or we dont come back next year. No excuses, you dont have the money, sell your red corvette, sell 2 of your tables, just pay up or else we walk and you have a tourney with no pros in it. Had they did that and stood firm, this problem would not exist today.
 
marissayi said:
I think we scared her off, Danny lol

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I would be ready to bet serious money, this aint no she, that it was a he, and if its a he, it dont take no columbo to figure out who that was.
 
Danny, I wouldn't worry about what she said. Most of us don't even believe it's a "she", much less a "lawyer's wife".
 
Thanks, Scott

Snapshot9 said:
Gerald ... Hi, This is Scott Fraser, Jr.'s friend. We are all waiting on Jr. getting back in Dec.. He has been playing on the 1 table they have at Stockton, Ks.
(rolling eyes) .... for awhile ...

Appreciate you letting me know about Junior. If you hear from him, have him call me. Thanks, Humphrey :p
 
Mr. Wilson said:
Can anyone offer a reasonable explanation as to Why the UPA is not ultimately responsible for the purse?

They make and enforce the rules, it's their tournament...yada, yada.....but when the money is due, it is someone else holding the bag?


Dave

"responsible" as in THEY should pay dh?

i'm guessing that their commitment is that they will only affiliate with tournaments who will pay, not that they will pay if the tourney doesn't.
 
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bruin70 said:
"responsible" as in THEY should pay dh?

i'm guessing that their commitment is that they will only affiliate with tournaments who will pay, not that they will pay if the tourney doesn't.

I actually do think they should be responsible. Ultimately, the player's organization should protect its players. They should pay Danny then take whatever measures they need to take to get reimbursed. It shouldn't be the player's responsibility to go jumping through hoops to get paid when they make money in a tournament. The players need to be assured that the organization that is representing them will also protect them in situations like this. I'm not saying this is how the UPA handles these types of issues now, but part of a player organization's responsibility, in my opinion, should be to protect its players. Even if they weren't going to pay Danny, then try to get reimbursed themselves, the UPA should be doing everything they can to make sure he gets paid. Who knows? They may already be doing that. I don't know all of the details. I'm just going on a little idealistic rant here. ;)
 
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Jimmy M. said:
I actually do think they should be responsible. Ultimately, the player's organization should protect its players. They should pay Danny then take whatever measures they need to take to get reimbursed. It shouldn't be the player's responsibility to go jumping through hoops to get paid when they make money in a tournamen,,,,,,,,,,,,ows? They may already be doing that. I don't know all of the details. I'm just going on a little ideological rant here. ;)

morally, i agree wholeheartedly. but if i'm running a business(of a sort. like the upa), i want to steer clear of other people's f*ckups when it comes to money,,ESPECIALLY in the pool arena. having to assume the loss of pay is a quick road to doom.
 
I want to know what's the deal with all the long posts :confused: If my attention span was that long, I'd be doing work and not goofing off on the internet :mad:
 
marissayi said:
I want to know what's the deal with all the long posts :confused: If my attention span was that long, I'd be doing work and not goofing off on the internet :mad:

I think it has a lot to do with whatever subject is being discussed, i.e. the recent Danny Harriman items were brought up in several topics. Myself, I just try to say what's on my mind in as few words as possible... I remember that drove my English comp. teacher in college nuts. lol

BTW, happy b-day Marissa.
 
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