Is there any stipulation that cue not be on the shot line and that the shot not be shot blind? IMO that's the only reason the rule was implemented in the first place and even that was stupid. The whole idea with technique is to reduce human error.
Tony Chohan foul
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This has got to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a pool table. For a player of Tony's caliber to do it is just shocking. Its what a middle school banger would do on their first time playing pool.
Are you sure? Did you see it with your own eyes? It's been a foul for 50 years at least. I'm pretty sure it was in the old BCA rule books (before there were any nationwide leagues). The WPA rulebooks did a lot of copy/paste from the BCA rulebooks. And then the BCAPL I believe did some copy/paste/rewrite using the WPA as a baseline.
This is up there with Chang Jung Lin using the front of his tip 5 times to knock the CB up table with BIH. At least his banger move was called a foul by the ref.
Wow, it really is ok in CSI rules. Yikes. What was Griffin thinking?
I "think" when most people say "BCA" in the context of rules, they mean the Billiards Congress of America, not the BCA Pool League (BCAPL), Mark Griffin's baby.
I was just at the BCA site, and under rules, they have a link to the WPA rules site. It looks like they deprecated their own rule set (which was the base for the WPA rules 20 some years ago anyway).
The CSI rules, I just browed through them again, they do look like they were made from scratch. I remember Griffen or someone from CSI 15-20 years ago saying they wanted to add a lot more context to the prior rule sets so they were easier to understand.
Shot went. ? \o/
Besides, wasn't the rule abolished?
Besides, wasn't the rule abolished?
maybe too much big easy have crept into his game? at least he wasn't climbing the table
i watched the two matches against lunda, both were entertaining. the first racks in the final were high speed one pocket, they both played fast and aggressive
i watched the two matches against lunda, both were entertaining. the first racks in the final were high speed one pocket, they both played fast and aggressive
According to my 2021/2022 Billiards Congress of America rule book titled "Billiards: The Official Rules and Records Book", the cue stick foul is described in a section on Fouls, and in the preamble to the Foul section it says, "The following actions are fouls at pool when included in the specific rules of the game being played." The rules for 9-ball, 8-ball, 14.1, Black Ball, and 10-ball specifically list the cue stick foul in their rulesets, however 1-pocket does not.
In 2003, subject to check, Rodney Morris was competing in the WPA 9-Ball Champoinship in, I think, England. The darlings of the UPA president were on the team, to include Rodney. Rodney used his cue stick to point an upcoming bank shot, and a foul was called. Rodney and the rest of the UPA team claimed they did not know about this rule beforehand, which to me screams the lack of preparation. Maybe the rules were not provided. Rodney was in shock that a foul wsa called on him, and the shock was fell on this side of the pond. I was on Rodney's side.
All rules of a tournament should be explaned BEFOREHAND at each and every tournament because, as wel all know, the rules vary just like they do in the game of 8 ball, whether 8 ball is neutral or not, to give one example.
Here is the rule that Rodney et al. did not know about: https://wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#612Cue-Stick-on-the-Table. "If the shooter uses his cue stick in order to align a shot by placing it on the table without having a hand on the stick, it is a foul."
I kind of doubt that the Amar Kang tournament was using the WPA rules.
All rules of a tournament should be explaned BEFOREHAND at each and every tournament because, as wel all know, the rules vary just like they do in the game of 8 ball, whether 8 ball is neutral or not, to give one example.
Here is the rule that Rodney et al. did not know about: https://wpapool.com/rules-of-play/#612Cue-Stick-on-the-Table. "If the shooter uses his cue stick in order to align a shot by placing it on the table without having a hand on the stick, it is a foul."
I kind of doubt that the Amar Kang tournament was using the WPA rules.
He as probably thinking: "what kinda schmo will confuse this with trying to obtain an advantage from laying a cue on the table that doesn't touch anything or disturb the balls in play"
but that's purely speculation...
pool keeps getting more and more lame all the time
i ll probably take up kayaking
i ll probably take up kayaking
billiards_watch
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Memorial tournament so house rules. You are not going to call a foul in a tournament that doesn't abide by those rules (WPA) on the cousin of the person.
It's like saying I should get a ticket for speeding because in Germany it is 20 km/h.
They have a players meeting before the start it every player is told the rules.
It's like saying I should get a ticket for speeding because in Germany it is 20 km/h.
They have a players meeting before the start it every player is told the rules.
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Sry but that's simply dumb... all rules need to be explained in the player's meeting I presume...? At the absolute most, an event should publish prior to the event the rules that they will be referencing (WPA vs BCA, for example) AND any specialized deviations of those rule sets if applicable.
A player not bothering to familiarize themselves with the rules of the event, is not the failing of the event.
Where does the line get drawn exactly...?
Yeah, no.
WOW! He sure did let go of the cue after he carefully aimed the cue and laid it on the table. Thanks.