billiards_watch
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This wasn't a WPA event but a Memorial Tournament.
Tony Chohan foul
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I've never called the "letting go of the cue" foul, but I've warned a few people about it. Same with using the cue ball, with ball in hand, to measure a clearance gap.
Probably, though.
I’ve had the cue thing happen several times. On every occasion I gave the player a warning.
It wasn’t a WPA event but some of those players play in international tournaments and other big tournaments that use WPA rules. I sent Match Room an email asking about what rules they use. I’m curious about what organizations use those rules.
This is a foul that is often overlooked or not known as a foul to a lot of players. Similar to touching a moving cueball (seen more now with the internet and more anal officiating), many players would grab a cueball if they see it not going towards a pocket, with the opponent not saying a word about it.
In my opinion, Tony acted like he knew that letting go of his cue wasn't a foul in the Memorial tournament.
Tony said he never heard of this rule. Obviously, 90% of the responders never heard of the rule. Different tournaments can have their own rules and I'm a little confused over the rule. WPA it's a foul. Someone told me it wasn't a foul in BCA. BCA web site says they use WPA standard rules from 2022, that rule book says it's a foul. However, I did find somewhere that BCA/CSI it wasn't a foul.
In any case as far as I'm concerned Tony is a class act. I also would not have called a foul but would have a conversation about it after the match.
...then there should be video of Tony letting go of his stick in other matches.
It's clearly not a foul in the 2021/2022 BCA rulebook...for 1-pocket. I quoted the relevant passages in a prior post.
Personally, I don't think there is a good reason for it to be a foul for letting go of your stick. Why did the rule makers think it should be a foul to measure something with your stick if you aren't touching your stick, but it's not a foul to measure something if your pinkie is touching the cue?
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The only rules for 1P that I see pertain to specific stuff for 1 Pocket. All other rules fall under the standard for general rules which make it a foul. Only the CSI said you and let go of the cue. All others it's a foul. I assume Match Room follows the WPA rules even though there are at odds right now.
WPA says this
If the shooter uses his cue stick in order to align a shot by placing it on the table without having a hand on the stick, it is a foul.
CSI says this
You may use your cue, held in your hand or not, to help align a shot.
Rules of the Amar Kang were BCA, so one could quickly figure out Tony Chohan did not commit a foul.
If the shooter uses his cue stick in order to align a shot by placing it on the table without having a hand on the stick, it is a foul.
CSI says this
You may use your cue, held in your hand or not, to help align a shot.
Rules of the Amar Kang were BCA, so one could quickly figure out Tony Chohan did not commit a foul.
billiards_watch
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You say a lot of incorrect things but this right here is spot on.
he's usual game doesn't involve that much measuring. most often he does a lean over without the cue. i don't think this was an intentional pushing the rules to see what he could get away with
Just one more reason why I never played tournaments.
Just got back from IA reffing 5 days.
What rules were in place?