Top pro beating people with a broomstick?

Great topic. The fact that so many pool fans in this thread think it's almost some myth or incredibly difficult to play with anything but a normal cue, proves the point of how effective this gaff is. I played with just about every implement you could find in a pool room at one time or another; my favorite, though, was using just the shaft of my 2-piece to shoot. I'd let the other guy try a few shots with it, make a game, and take down the score. If you're a pretty good player and in dead stroke, it's really not as hard as you think. Like other posters said, rough up the end if you can, use middle ball, and simply outmove the other guy. Presupposing you're playing a weak player, you really don't want to blast through him and have him quit after 1 set, and stalling can lead to problems, so the "broomstick gaff" is the perfect hustler tool. You look like you're getting the worst of it (tho you're not), you don't have to hustle, and when you take down the dough, the guy will shake his head, then shake your hand, smiling all the while. Best I ever saw at "gaff pool" were Ronnie Allen (especially jacked-up one-handed) and Mike Massey, who would use everything from his nose to a pencil (this was in his youth, BTW...he was, and remains, a high-class guy). Any future hustlers wanting to perfect a gaff, start practicing opposite-handed playing (it will help your game, anyway); if you can get close to your normal-handed game, you are ready to "bring it".
 
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Have you tried using a crutch ?

I dont know if you believe this one, but i saw this on
the national tv here in the Philippines (i.e. ABS-CBN) 3 years
or so ago, wherein Alex Pagulayan played a practical joke on Efren
conniving with the local tv show/crew here. Efren was playing with
a local here and Alex pretending to do a commentary on the game,
and some railbird kept barking on Efren, speaking in Tagalog
(but i will translate it in English here) that Efren is a has been
and he has no more fancy to keep up with the New generation of
players, meanwhile Efren keep on shooting and giving a neat lesson
on pool to his opponent ignoring the railbird.
By the way the one who is keep on barking is a supposedly disabled one with a crutch on him, so after he keep on barking on Efren (yet Efren just ignored him) he shoved to him his crutch and tells Efren to shoot using the crutch (wooden one). And guess what? Efren take the challenge and shoot the ball using the crutch that was given with only one hand! and voila! he still makes the ball! Then the crew later on inform him that he was on a national tv and he was just hit with a practical joke. Efren just smiled on them then he asked who initiates the whole setup, then Alex on the side with big grin on his face jokingly acknowleding that he is the one
who leads him to that situation. I never had seen Efren so mad with
his face :mad: , Alex just got the goat on Efren.Then proceeded to where Alex is and hit him with his bare knuckle on the head and Alex just keep on laughing on him! :D

I dont know if someone from the Phils could still remember this or could
corroborate this one.
 
several years ago here in troy ny we had a pretty good shooter nicknamed jimmy 4 ball. He would play anybody with his broom handle. no one realized that his broom handle was thin and that he had it tapered with a piece of leather on the end as a tip. he played and beat alot of player, myself included, for a few bucks. and boy could he jump with it. all this when jump cues were just coming out.......aaaah...the good old days.....never see them again. guess we gotta make some new ones..........................mike
 
Ronnie's move

Besides being the best One Handed, Jacked-Up One Pocket player ever, Ronnie had another favorite move. He would play with his shaft and beat good players who gave him a little weight, like 8-6, 9-7 or 10-8. Or maybe play a not so strong player even.
The secret is now revealed. He had a heavier than normal shaft made and he held a roll of dimes in his right hand while gripping the shaft. Try it, you'll like it. He could shoot all shots with that shaft. I never saw him lose that way.
As far as switching hands, the best has to be Keith. He maybe plays the 8 Ball under his right handed game. Others who are strong include Buddy and Sigel, both run-out players with the opposite hand.
Now promise me you won't tell anyone. lol
 
CebuanoNiNoy said:
I dont know if you believe this one, but i saw this on
the national tv here in the Philippines (i.e. ABS-CBN) 3 years
or so ago, wherein Alex Pagulayan played a practical joke on Efren
conniving with the local tv show/crew here. Efren was playing with
a local here and Alex pretending to do a commentary on the game,
and some railbird kept barking on Efren, speaking in Tagalog
(but i will translate it in English here) that Efren is a has been
and he has no more fancy to keep up with the New generation of
players, meanwhile Efren keep on shooting and giving a neat lesson
on pool to his opponent ignoring the railbird.
By the way the one who is keep on barking is a supposedly disabled one with a crutch on him, so after he keep on barking on Efren (yet Efren just ignored him) he shoved to him his crutch and tells Efren to shoot using the crutch (wooden one). And guess what? Efren take the challenge and shoot the ball using the crutch that was given with only one hand! and voila! he still makes the ball! Then the crew later on inform him that he was on a national tv and he was just hit with a practical joke. Efren just smiled on them then he asked who initiates the whole setup, then Alex on the side with big grin on his face jokingly acknowleding that he is the one
who leads him to that situation. I never had seen Efren so mad with
his face :mad: , Alex just got the goat on Efren.Then proceeded to where Alex is and hit him with his bare knuckle on the head and Alex just keep on laughing on him! :D

I dont know if someone from the Phils could still remember this or could
corroborate this one.
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Are you saying Efren punched Alex in the head?
 
jay helfert said:
Besides being the best One Handed, Jacked-Up One Pocket player ever, Ronnie had another favorite move. He would play with his shaft and beat good players who gave him a little weight, like 8-6, 9-7 or 10-8. Or maybe play a not so strong player even.
The secret is now revealed. He had a heavier than normal shaft made and he held a roll of dimes in his right hand while gripping the shaft. Try it, you'll like it. He could shoot all shots with that shaft. I never saw him lose that way.
As far as switching hands, the best has to be Keith. He maybe plays the 8 Ball under his right handed game. Others who are strong include Buddy and Sigel, both run-out players with the opposite hand.
Now promise me you won't tell anyone. lol
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A couple of people have told me that they saw Efren run racks of rotation left handed.
 
Bob Meucci in his Tape that PIMPS his New Black Dot Shaft use a Brrom Handle as a Cue Butt. Anyone who can view the Entire Tape in One Sitting with out PUKING IMO should get a free Meucci Cue....
 
cuetechasaurus said:
Are you saying Efren punched Alex in the head?
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I dont know if it is common there in the States, since here in the Phils sometimes to hit someone else (and if your the older guy or taller) with
such authority although not hurting so badly is by protruding the middle finger as if you are knocking a door, but on this case your knocking the
head :) . Since you dont want to hurt a younger guy or a smaller guy
badly you have just have to knock his head with a protruding middle
finger. This is kind of, just like saying "you are so way off or you have
been so disrespectful young guy and i have to discipline you.." with this one. I dont know if this is cultural since probably it also happens on the
other places of the world.
 
CebuanoNiNoy said:
I dont know if it is common there in the States, since here in the Phils sometimes to hit someone else (and if your the older guy or taller) with
such authority although not hurting so badly is by protruding the middle finger as if you are knocking a door, but on this case your knocking the
head :) . Since you dont want to hurt a younger guy or a smaller guy
badly you have just have to knock his head with a protruding middle
finger. This is kind of, just like saying "you are so way off or you have
been so disrespectful young guy and i have to discipline you.." with this one. I dont know if this is cultural since probably it also happens on the
other places of the world.
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I'm gonna start doing that to the young kids at the pool rooms with the giant pants when they get too loud!:D.....yea all 5'6" of me rolling up to the wannabebangers and start knockin em on the head with my knuckle!!!LOL:p

G.
 
McKinneyMiner said:
When I was living in El Paso, TX I saw an older gentleman (around 70 or so) beat an up and coming female player with a broomstick playing 8-ball on an 8 footer.

Funniest jawing back and forth I have ever seen.

I thought that girl was going to cry for a week after she lost.
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That would have to have been either Fez, or maybe, Bobby Madrid.
Old Fez was quite a Hustler in his day and a fun guy to be around.
Another who played a lot of people with the broom or mop handle was, Surfer Rod.
I saw him get into a match with a guy at the Rum Runner I Vegas years ago. They were playing 8-ball for lilke$100 a game as best I remember. Rod left and went to K-Mart to get a 20 ounce mop. When he got back, he sawed off the mophead and then went outside and shaped the tip on the concrete outside with a huge crowd watching and not really knowing whether to believe what htey were seeing or not.
Rod cam back and began to chalk the mop and proceeded to run the first two racks.
Rod won $1400 while Pots-n-Pans and myself won $3000 side-betting.
When it was all over, Pots-Pans beat the same guy out of another $1000
 
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