Tournament Directors (Jay, others).......? new breaking rule.
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Complete bs!
Corey had it all figured out and was too good. So the rules had to be changed. I say, leave it the same, break however you want(soft or hard) and from wherever you want. Let's see some guys light up the tables with 6 packs the way 9 ball is supposed to be.
I do favor random racking, this pattern crap is for the birds.
Changing 9 ball to all these new rules is like putting hobbles on a horse because he is too fast. Why do we change rules because a select few take the time to get close to perfection?
If you don't like guys making the wing ball or using the cut break to pocket the 1 ball, just play 10 ball. But, if you can't beat a guy who plays good 9 ball, do you think there is a honest chance you will win at 10 ball?
Corey had it all figured out and was too good. So the rules had to be changed. I say, leave it the same, break however you want(soft or hard) and from wherever you want. Let's see some guys light up the tables with 6 packs the way 9 ball is supposed to be.
I do favor random racking, this pattern crap is for the birds.
Changing 9 ball to all these new rules is like putting hobbles on a horse because he is too fast. Why do we change rules because a select few take the time to get close to perfection?
If you don't like guys making the wing ball or using the cut break to pocket the 1 ball, just play 10 ball. But, if you can't beat a guy who plays good 9 ball, do you think there is a honest chance you will win at 10 ball?
Oh yeah, in 10 ball I can do a defensive legal soft break and beat allot of younger players just from board play, different game.
Medina talked to me this past week about playing 9 ball with Efren, he said he had a big advantage in this area, when I talked to him about ten ball, he said ''I can't beat him''. Big difference, why, Danny broke the 9 ball rack as good as SVB breaks the ten ball rack, tho with less control. Also, Danny beat efren in the 8 ball finals in Vegas yrs ago because Effie had no where near his breaking power to open a full rack of balls. In 9 ball, coming at the head ball from an angle is waaaaaaaaay different that straight at the the head ball, you've got more leverage and predictablily of head ball movement.
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i'm 99% positive they would object, they are looking for a edge. Hard to get a advantage if everyone tee'ed off from the same spot. Mike Deschane can hit the CB super hard, perhaps harder than most guys maybe guys like that would have a edge, I dont know. I just know guys looking for a edge wouldnt tollerate a rule like this a "2-3 inch break circle", for lack of a better word.
most sporting games keep getting rule changes strictly for the tv audience. unfortunately the games also changes for those that dont play on tv
so let them do what they want for the tv and for your own play against someone, set the rules how both of you want. for the non pro player breaking with the soft break is mostly selling out on the equipment they are playing on.
so let them do what they want for the tv and for your own play against someone, set the rules how both of you want. for the non pro player breaking with the soft break is mostly selling out on the equipment they are playing on.
haha, I never heard the OP refer to himself in the third person before.
Well anyway.
Power and skillful control are to be admired for sure, and they aren't easy to come by.
But don't kid yourself... no pro wants to hit it hard and hope it works out. They are playing to make a specific ball. The 2nd row balls in 10 ball, the corner ball in 9b.
If you adjust the rack to prevent these, they will play to make a different specific ball (for example in the mosconi cup they racked on the spot, so everyone was playing to make the 1 in the side).
No pro player WANTS randomness after the break.
They are not there to let lady luck decide whether they go home with $10,000 or go home broke.
First shot after the break, Rollout Only
That's why in another thread awhile back I mentioned, first shot after the break if there is No scratch ''has to be a roll out''. This would be the great equalizer, be very difficult for any of the young great players nowadays to play Alan Hopkins and win in this spot. 14.1 is a safe break, one hole is a safe break, why should the rest of our games involve more luck?
That's why in another thread awhile back I mentioned, first shot after the break if there is No scratch ''has to be a roll out''. This would be the great equalizer, be very difficult for any of the young great players nowadays to play Alan Hopkins and win in this spot. 14.1 is a safe break, one hole is a safe break, why should the rest of our games involve more luck?
I guess I just don't get it.......
I ain't been on here much lately, and I guess I am missing something. Has the handicapping at amateur tournaments, and leagues, started to leak into the PRO level. Are we trying to handicap the top players, who worked so hard to be the best, and able to run multiple racks, so the game turns into one pocket? I must be stuck in the 80's, where I loved to go watch guys run 5, 6, and 7 packs, whether for the cash or in the tournies. That was the excitement part of pool. I don't mind the racking rules, of 2 ball on the back, or 9 ball in bottom 2 corners don't count for a win.... What I do object to, is people wanting to shut the game down to one rack at a time, to keep the matches close. Hasn't anyone out there, ever seen a match score at 9-1 going to 11, and watched a great comeback.
If you don't wanna see a guy running racks, play alternate breaks, loser breaks, but while you're at it, go ahead and penalize the guy who runs out, by giving the other guy ball in hand after his break. That should keep the matches close. Here's another idea, while we are changing rules..... Mr. Brumback is no longer allowed to bank more than 3 balls any time he shoots.. And Efren only gets to play safe once a game in One pocket.... Shane, from now on, playing 10 ball, if you break 21 miles an hour or higher, it's a foul.... That should do it.
I ain't been on here much lately, and I guess I am missing something. Has the handicapping at amateur tournaments, and leagues, started to leak into the PRO level. Are we trying to handicap the top players, who worked so hard to be the best, and able to run multiple racks, so the game turns into one pocket? I must be stuck in the 80's, where I loved to go watch guys run 5, 6, and 7 packs, whether for the cash or in the tournies. That was the excitement part of pool. I don't mind the racking rules, of 2 ball on the back, or 9 ball in bottom 2 corners don't count for a win.... What I do object to, is people wanting to shut the game down to one rack at a time, to keep the matches close. Hasn't anyone out there, ever seen a match score at 9-1 going to 11, and watched a great comeback.
If you don't wanna see a guy running racks, play alternate breaks, loser breaks, but while you're at it, go ahead and penalize the guy who runs out, by giving the other guy ball in hand after his break. That should keep the matches close. Here's another idea, while we are changing rules..... Mr. Brumback is no longer allowed to bank more than 3 balls any time he shoots.. And Efren only gets to play safe once a game in One pocket.... Shane, from now on, playing 10 ball, if you break 21 miles an hour or higher, it's a foul.... That should do it.