Transaction from 7-12-08

Panhdlce

Panhdlce

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In December I sold two shafts made from Sugartree Diamond Dowels.
The post title states; "2 Shafts from Sugartree Diamond Dowels"
Which is exactly what they are.
It does not say 2 Sugartree shafts.

Now I'm being threatened that the post representes them as Sugartee shafts. I clearly posted they were shafts from Sugartree dowels. Mind you I'm being threatened today when the customer stated his satisfation back in December. How is this to be handled?

The buyer states he assumed them to be Sugartree shafts
 
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Panhdlce said:
In December I sold two shafts made from Sugartree Diamond Dowels.
The post title states; "2 Shafts from Sugartree Diamond Dowels"
Which is exactly what they are.
It does not say 2 Sugartree shafts.

Now I'm being threatened that the post representes them as Sugartee shafts. I clearly posted they were shafts from Sugartree dowels. Mind you I'm being threatened today when the customer stated his satisfation back in December. How is this to be handled?

The buyer states he assumed them to be Sugartree shafts
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Don't sweat the small stuff and this is REAL small.:)


Your date is confusing though. To me 7-12-08 is July, 12th, 08. The last DECEMBER i recall was in 07 or am i missing something?:confused:
 
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Panhdlce said:
In December I sold two shafts made from Sugartree Diamond Dowels.
The post title states; "2 Shafts from Sugartree Diamond Dowels"
Which is exactly what they are.
It does not say 2 Sugartree shafts.

Now I'm being threatened that the post representes them as Sugartee shafts. I clearly posted they were shafts from Sugartree dowels. Mind you I'm being threatened today when the customer stated his satisfation back in December. How is this to be handled?

The buyer states he assumed them to be Sugartree shafts
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This is very misleading IMO
I think you shod return the money
 
Explain why I should issue a refund when my for sale post states
2 shafts from Sugartree Diamond Dowels?
 
also I don't know where these shafts have been or how they have been used or possbly modified in the last 9 months, they certainly aren't less than two weeks old as they were when they were sold
 
What's misleading? The guy can't read??

Panhdlce said:
In December I sold two shafts made from Sugartree Diamond Dowels.
The post title states; "2 Shafts from Sugartree Diamond Dowels"
Which is exactly what they are.
It does not say 2 Sugartree shafts.

Now I'm being threatened that the post representes them as Sugartee shafts. I clearly posted they were shafts from Sugartree dowels. Mind you I'm being threatened today when the customer stated his satisfation back in December. How is this to be handled?

The buyer states he assumed them to be Sugartree shafts
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What is misleading about the post?

Maybe you should include a link to the original post Phil!?

I bought some shaft dowels from Eric and Hunter last year -- what are you suppose to represent them as being -- You guys are trying to tell me now 9 months later this guy is going to raise the question that he thought they were shafts made by Sugartree?!?! :shakehead:
 
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First i have one of them and i used it for two days then i sold my cue
second What The H... Is a diamond dowel is that shaft wood
if so who made them and how can you use Eric's name for dowels that wore turned in to shafts by someone els
I guess i just don't get is
 
since im the one who issued a "threat" to phil let me jump in and add a little info. first off phil was never threatened by myself or anyone. what i did say is that i was going to post a thread requesting the opinions of my fellow az members to settle a dispute. win lose or draw i will stick with public opinion. so here are a few facts. if you read the description posted it says 2 shafts and 6 sugartree diamond dowels. key word here is sugartree. ok they are his dowels what about the shafts? would the average person assume by that description that the shafts were made by sugartree? it surely does not say that the shafts were finished by someone other than sugartree. so why is that? maybe cause the value and sale price would be lower? now i bought these 2 shafts roughly 3 months ago and was perfectly happy with what i thought were sugartree shafts. one day a buddy of mine and fellow az member swisschris liked the way the shafts played and i sold one to him. well like most of us we get things to try then sell them right back here on az. in this case swisschris posts the shaft i sold him here on az as a sugartree shaft. well a day later chris receives a pm from eric crisp himself stating that he never made these shafts? chris calls me with this info and i feel like a D**K cause i sold him the shaft. what is a guy to do. i contact phil to let him know what i found out and all i got was that he never said they were sugartree shafts. ok but you also didnt say they werent. i tried to solve this behind the scenes through pm's but got no where. phil was sly enough to jump ahead and post his own thread like i was attacking him. well thats not my style youll know if im attacking you lol. anyway like i said id like to solve this with public opinion. what do you guys think? any and all opinions would be appreciate.

thanks
ron
 
id like to add that these shafts werent purchased last year. that may have been when the post first started but the shafts were for sale for quite sometime. also each shaft has very little play.
 
phil obviously uses a different calendar than most of us. was it 7-12-08 or was is 12-08-07?

either way, if phil is really a standup guy, he would give you a refund. his post was a pre-emptive one, to cover his stellar reputation here, imo.
 
larrynj1 said:
phil obviously uses a different calendar than most of us. was it 7-12-08 or was is 12-08-07?

either way, if phil is really a standup guy, he would give you a refund. his post was a pre-emptive one, to cover his stellar reputation here, imo.
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Sounds like a post based hearsay of my qoute" steller" reputation as if he and I have ever conducted $1 of business

My mistake, when I looked at date on the post I saw 12 and said it was from December
 
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doug for the record i love the shafts but its not what i thought i was buying. if you bought a balabushka for $10,000 and swore it was the best cue you ever had then found out by an expert that it is a 1970's knock off by another cue maker how would you feel? im not trying to make mountains out of molehills here. if he doesnt want to issue a refund thats fine with me. but does it make it right? i have done a deal with phil before in which he made good on. i have no ill will towards phil and if he goes to valley forge this year i will gladly buy him a few drinks. my big problem is i bought something that isnt what i expected and i sold to another az member because of this misrepresentation.
 
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