Triangle vs. Layered Tips...

My name is Rip and I am a tipaholic.
I try every new tip that hits the market but always come back to the 15mm Triangles.
Disclaimer: I play just as bad with one tip as I do the other.
 
My name is Rip and I am a tipaholic.
I try every new tip that hits the market but always come back to the 15mm Triangles.
Disclaimer: I play just as bad with one tip as I do the other.

Welcome Rip.....

The first step is realizing there is a problem.....

The 2nd step is putting a Ki-Tech medium on and forgetting about layered tips forever.... :thumbup:

Chris
 
My name is Rip and I am a tipaholic.
I try every new tip that hits the market but always come back to the 15mm Triangles.
Disclaimer: I play just as bad with one tip as I do the other.


I was a cueaholic and it led to harder stuff like tips.
I've been known to play pool with a layered tip durometer tested to 95, only because I can, and the tip was there.
Never saw a tip thread that I didn't like.
Welcome to TA brother
 
Ki-Tech medium---I gotta' get some---I'm jones'n for some Ki-Tech mediums--gotta' have em'....!!!!!!
 
Welcome Rip.....

The first step is realizing there is a problem.....

The 2nd step is putting a Ki-Tech medium on and forgetting about layered tips forever.... :thumbup:

Chris

How does someone obtain one of your tips? I sent you a PM last week but so far haven't heard back from you.
 
Density Issues in Triangle Tips

Over the past 15 or so years, I have also installed more Triangles than any other tip.

I have seen what several other respondents have noted - about one in every five or ten Triangle tips would be slightly less dense. This is always obvious after trim, as the sidewalls will appear porous when viewed under an eye loupe. You can also observe slight movement in response to side pressure for these low-density tips. To save rework labor, I try to sort these tips out prior to installation by observing the backside for indications of low-density leather. I generally catch them this way - maybe one or two per box will slip past me.

Another thing I started noticing about four or five years ago was a decrease in diameter of the 14mm triangles I normally purchase. Did this change also correspond to the onset of density issues? I can't say for sure.

All boxes I have bought in the past year, however, have contained tips of the "normal" diameter. Interestingly, these newer tips also seem to contain less of the "low-density" defects.

I'm wondering whether some of the manufacture was outsourced five or so years ago, producing the slightly-smaller diameter as well as some low-density tips. Or perhaps they had an equipment or die issue.

Anyway, the density issues seem much less prevalent now that the size is also returned to normal ...

I do cue repairs and i've installed more Triangle tips than any other tip in my area. One thing i've noticed is some of the newer Triangle tips aren't as consistent as they were when I first started installing tips. I've had a number of them look good before I installed them and then not shape right and i'd have to cut it off and try another tip. Maybe I just got a bad box or two of Triangle tips plus I don't do near as many tip installations as I used to do. I like the way Triangle tips play and I think I got caught up in the layered tip hype when Moori tips first came out. All I heard was this was the new way to go when you put a tip on your cue. I played with Moori tips for years after that until they changed their firmness or whatever they did. The Moori Slow tips of today are not what the older ones were and they don't play the same to me. I've tried many different tips since I can install my own tips and i've settled on Sniper tips as my tip of choice. However I wouldn't have a problem putting a good Triangle tip on my cue and playing with it until it needed replacing.

James
 
Why Change?

Ever since I got back into pool after a fairly long break, I have used a layered tip. My current choice is the Kamui Black Soft.

I have heard a few people make comments like "Such and such layered tip plays like a great Triangle tip", and it looks like a lot of players still use Triangles.

For those of you that have tried layered tips and gone to a Triangle, OR started out with a Triangle and went to a layered tip, what was your reason for the change?

I refuse to change. I played with Moori's a few times and didn't like the way they glassed over. I played with Sniper's which were ok. I liked that they didn't Mushroom the sides but thats not such a deal to contend with. My buddy that uses Sniper's miscues more than me so...to that.

Why change what is consistent and works?
 
Over the past 15 or so years, I have also installed more Triangles than any other tip.

I have seen what several other respondents have noted - about one in every five or ten Triangle tips would be slightly less dense. This is always obvious after trim, as the sidewalls will appear porous when viewed under an eye loupe. You can also observe slight movement in response to side pressure for these low-density tips. To save rework labor, I try to sort these tips out prior to installation by observing the backside for indications of low-density leather. I generally catch them this way - maybe one or two per box will slip past me.

Another thing I started noticing about four or five years ago was a decrease in diameter of the 14mm triangles I normally purchase. Did this change also correspond to the onset of density issues? I can't say for sure.

All boxes I have bought in the past year, however, have contained tips of the "normal" diameter. Interestingly, these newer tips also seem to contain less of the "low-density" defects.

I'm wondering whether some of the manufacture was outsourced five or so years ago, producing the slightly-smaller diameter as well as some low-density tips. Or perhaps they had an equipment or die issue.

Anyway, the density issues seem much less prevalent now that the size is also returned to normal ...

How and why did a guy typing his very first post find and resurect a 5 year old thread that hasn't been hit for 2 years??? lol
 
How and why did a guy typing his very first post find and resurect a 5 year old thread that hasn't been hit for 2 years??? lol

Spiderman knows more about tips than most AZB'rs. Don't underestimate the value of his knowledge based on his number of posts. It's great to see him post again and I'm sure you'll learn from his input as well. :thumbup:
 
Spiderman knows more about tips than most AZB'rs. Don't underestimate the value of his knowledge based on his number of posts. It's great to see him post again and I'm sure you'll learn from his input as well. :thumbup:

And..he might have been the last poster to jump off the sinking CCB ship, lol.


Eric
 
I've always been a fan of lepro, using lepro on every cue, when you find a good lepro, it is actually really good, like nothing beats it, but recently on my playing shaft I've had a streak of 4 bad lepro's and I actually i'm tired of keeping going back and forth to the cue-repair guy, so I asked him to install Sniper this time.

Any of you guys can tell me if my choice was good, is Sniper good in comparison to the good lepro's ? thanks
 
I forgot to ask about maintenance on these tips.

With a layered tip, a tip pick is a BIG no-no.

Is it OK to use a tip pick on a Triangle, or are there better tools to use if I need to scuff the tip up a bit?
Yes, light picking is okay for non-layered tips, and light scuffing is okay for layered tips.
 
I keep switching out different layered tips on my practice cue, but for my competition cue I keep a Triangle on it.
 
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