Triangle vs. Layered Tips...

[Mr. Wiggles]

Pre pressed tips

I would assume it is to minimize the mushrooming and reshaping that comes with the first few hard hits on a new single layer tip. Otherwise, mount it, smack the heck out of some balls to "press it" then re-trim outside to remove mushrooming, reshape tip to your favorite nickel or dime profile, and move on.

Don't know how long pre pressing tips has been going on, but my theory on new tips is go hit about 500 balls and then you have what you have. Haven't tried a Kamui but have tried some layered tips. I am always leary of a brand new tip.

 

[Gramps]

Tip Trimming A Moori

OK, I used to be like a lot of guys and really liked to trim a new tip down about half way to about the thickness of a little more than a quarter. I thought I liked the hard feel when the tip got almost to where it needed to be replaced. So when I tried my first Moori tip I also trimmed it down the same way I always did any other tip. When I played with it, I wasn't very impressed and said that I could not see what all the hipe was about on the Moori tip. A couple of years ago I went to put on a new tip and just for the hell of it I thought I would try another Moori and give them another try. When I went to trim it down, I thought to my self that I would leave it thicker in case I didn't like it so that I could have enough tip left to use it on another shaft later. So I just trimmed it down past the flat area of the tip and "Boy o Boy" did it play a hell of a lot different and better ! I thought to myself, no wonder Moori makes these tips so much thicker than other tips and if they advertise 15 layers, why would you trim off 7 or 8 of them when installing a new one.

So, the next time you put on a new Moori tip, leave them a little longer than you normally would and try it at the table. If you don't like this new feel, you can always trim it lower. I think you will like the difference.

 

[TheThaiger]

Couldn't agree more about replacing Everests with Triangles on Predators - not only did I miscue every other shot, the hit was TERRIBLE. It was the first Pred I'd played with, and I was all set for sending it back. Now I absolutely love it.

Quick question: I often see written on here there's a big difference between a box of Triangles in terms of quality, with most being rubbish. My question is, how do you tell whether you've a good one or a dud? I love them so much I'm quite happy to buy 50 and throw away 49.

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

The bottom line for me:

I have used many different brands of tips and, for many years, played exclusively with Moori mediums. That was my cup of tea. Was, I say, because they became so inconsistent I grew weary of playing the guessing game.

Enter Kamui!

I am so impressed with Kamui black soft tips (these play equivalent to proper moori mediums) that these will be my choice going forward. The spin, control, grip on whitey, their ability to maintain shape (zero mushrooming), and durability (will last a looong time) make them worth every penny. So for layered, Kamui black is a briliant tip! :thumbup:

As Greyghost pointed out referring to Triangle tips, "all others are trying to reinvent the wheel". Regarding the performance of triangles, IMHO, they are the nuts for non-layered tips and I love the way they play. Triangle tips, at the miserly price of a half a buck each, are the best thing since sliced bread for the end of a pool stick. :thumbup:

I concur with Dakota Cues 100%: Kamui black soft and Triangles are kings.

My main playing cue has two shafts, one with a Kbs one with a T. Just add stroke!

Best,
Brian kc

 

[PistolPat]

Triangles weremy first tips.........

Triangles, Le Pro & Elks were my first tips before I started hearing about layered tips, I've put em all to the test..Kamui...Moori...Diamond Back...Sniper...Everest...Black Diamond..Talisman...damn you name it and I've tried em till they wore down to the ferrule, but NOTHING compares to a fully pressed Elk Master, Fully pressed elk is still soft but retains shape....Triangles for me got too hard...same as Le Pros...Good tips but just not my cup o tea

 

[enzo]

i want to try a kamui. since im not really around a bunch of players right now, i guess id need to put one on my cue to try it. that would cost me 20 for the tip, maybe 20 for the install, and if i dont like it i take it off. so that's 40 bucks, i had a decent viking as my first cue and it cost 100. i mean cmon.

i was probing the kamui rep about their prices in another thread. he just said kamui made the best tips, that is why they are 20 bucks. ok, thats fine... they got a good thing going, i respect that. yet as people have noted, a triangle may be .50, a kamui 20 bucks-- 40 times more for a kamui. i guess each person has to decide. my only question is why kamui doesn't at least try to be more competitive on the price.

 

[cubswin]

Ever since I got back into pool after a fairly long break, I have used a layered tip. My current choice is the Kamui Black Soft.

I have heard a few people make comments like "Such and such layered tip plays like a great Triangle tip", and it looks like a lot of players still use Triangles.

For those of you that have tried layered tips and gone to a Triangle, OR started out with a Triangle and went to a layered tip, what was your reason for the change?

triangles were better years ago, now they can be pretty inconsistent from tip to tip. Much like Lepro's. The layered tips seem to be pretty consistent. Personally I've switched over to milk duds, which I like more than any tip I've tried, including kamui's. Layered tips are great, but I feel like I get as good or better performance for a fraction of the cost with milk duds.

 

[bnall]

triangles were better years ago, now they can be pretty inconsistent from tip to tip. Much like Lepro's. The layered tips seem to be pretty consistent. Personally I've switched over to milk duds, which I like more than any tip I've tried, including kamui's. Layered tips are great, but I feel like I get as good or better performance for a fraction of the cost with milk duds.

I feel the same way about Milk dud tips. Plus there cheap!!

 

[ViolatorDM]

i am a big fan on triangle tips, i play with nothing else. one really good secret about triangles (and le pros too) that I have learned. get the 15mm ones! not sure exactly why, but they are so much better than the typical 14mm ones. they are thicker and much more consistent from tip to tip. I have heard the 15mm ones are from a different part of the hide and that is why they are better. i also like to give a moderate press to the triangles before installing (i use the picone tip press), it firms up the hit a little.

Reviving this thread

Isn't the Picone Tip Press supposed to be for Tips up to 11mm? If so, how do you fit a 15mm Tip in there?

 

[ViolatorDM]

Reviving this thread

Isn't the Picone Tip Press supposed to be for Tips up to 11mm? If so, how do you fit a 15mm Tip in there?

My bad... The Picone Cue Tip Press is not for 11mm Tips... I had a different Cue Tip Press Tool open and I got confused

 

[Okie]

Reviving this thread

Isn't the Picone Tip Press supposed to be for Tips up to 11mm? If so, how do you fit a 15mm Tip in there?

Thanks for reviving! I had never heard of pressing a tip until now. Kind of a "duh moment" for me since I prefer a harder tip.

Ken

 

[DRW]

Ever since I got back into pool after a fairly long break, I have used a layered tip. My current choice is the Kamui Black Soft.

I have heard a few people make comments like "Such and such layered tip plays like a great Triangle tip", and it looks like a lot of players still use Triangles.

For those of you that have tried layered tips and gone to a Triangle, OR started out with a Triangle and went to a layered tip, what was your reason for the change?

I've went back and forth over the years with layered and non layered tips. No magic bullet. I will be switching back to triangles because I like the way they play and the cost. Never really played any better with the more expensive tips.

 

[JC]

I have three cues that I play with a lot. One has a Triangle, one has an Onyx and the third has an Everest. Frankly, they all play about the same. People who spend too much time worrying about their tip are usually good ones to gamble with because they have that damned tip right at the top of their excuse tool box nice and handy for when their game fails them.

JC

 

[Maniac]

I had never heard of pressing a tip until now. Kind of a "duh moment" for me since I prefer a harder tip.

Ken

Hey Ken, there's a whole world waitin' for ya outside the borders of Oklahoma :wink:!!!

You oughta get out every once in a while :grin:!!!

Maniac (can't seem to ever get out of Texas:embarrassed2

 

[fasted71465]

Triangle is the best one layer tip but you have to reshape from time to time. I now use Talisman med tips and I don't have any mushrooming never have to reshape. They hit as good as anything else but need to be chalked more than a triangle to avoid miss cues.

 

[Okie]

Hey Ken, there's a whole world waitin' for ya outside the borders of Oklahoma :wink:!!!

You oughta get out every once in a while :grin:!!!

Maniac (can't seem to ever get out of Texas:embarrassed2

LOL

You might have something there!

Ken

 

[Cornerman]

Triangle tips are made from ground up leather, they arent from a certain part of a cow hide. I would speculate that if the 15mm tips are indeed better, its because they are old. Tweeten hasnt made them in that size for some time.
Chuck

Ummm... no.

 

[Fatboy]

i like triangle tips, it takes a while sometimes to get a good one, but its worth the effort. I have seen other people find success with layered tips. not my bag tho.

 

[Swarbt119]

I'm currently shooting Triangle tips and I'm shooting better than I ever have. I'm really liking them and don't think I am gonna try anything else in the near future. I used to shoot Elk Master tips, but I had to "shoot them in" to get them to where I liked them. I have tried Moori, Talisman, Tiger, Kamui, and many others and they all shot great. Each has its own characteristics, but I shot well with them. But for some tips costing up to $30, you can have them. So for now it's gonna stay Triangle, great performance and price.

 

[holland]

I'm bouncing around right now, but going to go back to Triangle after my stash of layered tips is used up. I might pick up a press as well, as I'm finding I like my tips much harder than I used to a decade ago.