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RunoutJJ said:
Out of all my years in leauges the only governing body or organization that handicaps most accurately is THE BCA.
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The VNEA (Valley) is almost exactly like the BCA. Well organized and well ran as well. I have enjoyed playing in both of these leagues. Both national/international events are fun to play in.
 
LeagueGuy said:
Nice work Sam. This would be Sam Rullo from the TAP National Office. VP of sales.

I have seen varioys posts from Mark Griffin of the BCA and also from various APA League Operators. They spen time clarifying misconceptions about their league, not soliciting new members.

The TAP league must be getting desperate if they need to come on here and insult the other league and beg for players.

Well done Sam.
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where do you get off knocking tap when you havent even tried it?

the sandbagging is in the apa because of the 23 rule.

in tap, there is no need to sandbag.

looks to me like you are either an apa league operator, or a player whos skill level isnt sufficient enough to compete in tap.
 
Would somebody please explain how the handicapping is figured in the TAP leagues?
 
The VNEA "handicaps" are a joke, and mean nothing (you spot a lesser skilled player 1-3 points...mostly 1). The BCAPL handicap guidelines are good, but are arbitrary at the will of the local LO. Neither VNEA or BCAPL use any handicaps at the national tournament (which many players support). Just wanted to point out the facts.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

jason said:
The VNEA (Valley) is almost exactly like the BCA. Well organized and well ran as well. I have enjoyed playing in both of these leagues. Both national/international events are fun to play in.
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jdxprs said:
where do you get off knocking tap when you havent even tried it?

the sandbagging is in the apa because of the 23 rule.

in tap, there is no need to sandbag.

looks to me like you are either an apa league operator, or a player whos skill level isnt sufficient enough to compete in tap.
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I did try it for one session. Played against numerous players who dumped week after week. I actually won more than I lost but was sick of playing APA 7's who were 4's nad who would get a lead with almost no misses and then dump the match to let me win so they could stay a 4.
I know exactly what I am talking about fro experience.

By the way, the only reason I know Sam is because division reps and players in my area go to Rally and complain about players and teams from his area and they mention him by name.
Maybe you insult me because you are a TAP Operator and this is the only way you can delfect criticism.
 
This is SPAM! :boring2:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Sam at TAP said:
TAP LLC is looking for some hard working and honest people to bring the TAP pool league to your area. If you are tired of playing "slop", non typical 9 ball rules, tired of constantly breaking your team up due to low team point handicaps and tired of trying to make it to nationals then it is time that you and your friends try TAP.
In a recent Inside Pool magazine article, one of the oldest billiard leagues reported they had less than 1% growth in 2009, adding less than 1,300 new members nationwide that year. TAP on the other hand is now the fastest growing league in the country with new members totaling 8,082 in 2009. There is no slow down in sight for the TAP sales office either. For the first four months of 2010, TAP has recorded record breaking sales with new licensees being added areas such as Colorado, Virginia, Missouri, South Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, New Jersey and Indiana just to name a few.
With TAP's innovative league features including the state of the art Pool-Net system, which includes many options such as, the players statistical module, user friendly report queries and the most advanced handicapping system in the industry and so much more, round robin national formats, TAP's Rally in the Valley at the Super Billiard Expo every March, TAP's traveling nationals going to locations such as New Orleans, Louisville, Charleston, Las Vegas, Myrtle Beach and Orlando is a hit with the players and it is no wonder why TAP is now recognized as the leader in the billiard league industry and known as "The league that goes places."
If you are tired of your dinosaur pool league, then try TAP and improve your game with our format. Please call the sales office at 1-800-984-7665 ext. 2 to schedule a quick tour of Pool-Net or visit tapleague.com for more info. You will not be disappointed and glad you did.
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jdxprs said:
im calling bullchit. i was AT nationals, and no way a 3 played like a 7 and won anything.

anyone who played more than 2 skill levels over their handicap was DISQUALIFIED.

TAP is by far the best league going right now in my opinion. the competition is good, they dont break up teams with the 23 rule, and the rules are geared more towards players that want to play the game right.
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Call whatever you want you moron.
 
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jason,

i don't know the formula or anything by here is what i do know.

1. skill levels are done at the national level, NOT but local league operators as in the apa.

2. every shot is marked as completed, missed, or defense, so that tells me it has something to do with a calculation of made to missed ratio.

3. im sure winning percentage has an effect. i heard once that winning 10weeks in a row automatically triggered a skill level increase.
 
cbaumann212 said:
Call whatever you want you moron. Look up who won the skill level 3 National Singles at Tap and then guess how he really plays. Please don't question me. Maybe you have to play at a certain level in order to accurately judge someone's real speed. I am not trying to be harsh, just please don't correct me unless you really have a clue as to what I am talking about.

You are wrong. have a good day and practice.
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if he won as a 3, then he put up numbers like a 3. if he put up numbers like a 7, he would have been disqualified like the others that tried to cheat.

YOU ARE WRONG.

PRACTICE? lol. i think my game will be ok.
 
LeagueGuy said:
I did try it for one session. Played against numerous players who dumped week after week. I actually won more than I lost but was sick of playing APA 7's who were 4's nad who would get a lead with almost no misses and then dump the match to let me win so they could stay a 4.
I know exactly what I am talking about fro experience.

By the way, the only reason I know Sam is because division reps and players in my area go to Rally and complain about players and teams from his area and they mention him by name.
Maybe you insult me because you are a TAP Operator and this is the only way you can delfect criticism.
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no, im not a league operator. i played apa for years, watching my teams be broken up for BUSINESS reasons, not because my players deserved to go up.

i started playing tap about 3 years ago, and it is great. there is no b.s. or skill level changes like in apa.
 
jdxprs said:
jason,

i don't know the formula or anything by here is what i do know.

1. skill levels are done at the national level, NOT but local league operators as in the apa. More propaganda, and NOT true! APA LO's send in weekly data to St. Louis. The software program (that comes from the national office, and cannot be manipulated...other than overriding a particular player's s/l at the local level) determines S/L's, not arbitrary assignment by the local LO.

2. every shot is marked as completed, missed, or defense, so that tells me it has something to do with a calculation of made to missed ratio. If the score is kept correctly, APA does exactly the same thing. Don't blame the system...blame the teams keeping score.

3. im sure winning percentage has an effect. i heard once that winning 10weeks in a row automatically triggered a skill level increase. You "heard ONCE"? Well that makes it a fact, doesn't it? :rolleyes:
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Just keeping the facts straight! :D

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
yes, they send to st. louis, but the LEAGUE OPERATOR CAN GO IN AND CHANGE SKILL LEVELS. For instance, for 3 sessions, every time my team played the league operators sons team, someone on my teams skill level went up for that week. then amazingly, after we played them, the player would drop back down. i asked around the other teams about this after it happening 3 or 4 times, and other teams had noticed the same thing.

In tap, they can NOT do that.


APA ONLY TRACKS INNINGS. NOT BALLS LEFT ON TABLE OR COMPLETE TO MISS RATIO. apa score keeping is totally different from tap.


winning percentage is a part of the equation. i have no idea how big or small. where did i say what i heard once was fact?


don't you have some training solicitation posts to make?


JUST KEEPING THE FACTS STRAIT.
 
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jdxprs said:
if he won as a 3, then he put up numbers like a 3. if he put up numbers like a 7, he would have been disqualified like the others that tried to cheat.

YOU ARE WRONG.

PRACTICE? lol. i think my game will be ok.
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You really have no clue. Keep posting BS and commenting on social leagues.
You ever come to Chicago, you have unlimited action goof.
 
Sam at TAP said:
I am not going allow myself to get dragged in the mud with you guys as I know how in the past this seems to always happen. I have been getting a steady stream of private messages since I posted this earlier today so there is alot of interest in TAP.
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If you didn't want people to reply - negative or positive, maybe you should had bought an add instead of posting an advertisement on a public forum... Especially on a Main Forum section.

S.
 
Thank God I play in an independent pool league not affiliated with ... well, ANY of this drama.
 
We got 7 or 8 different leagues in the Valley of the Sun, and the funny thing is...EACH SAYS THEY ARE THE BEST!!!!!
 
This sounds like a different game to play. Why not just play pool ?

Dave
 
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