pool101 is talking about if you layered a 3 1/2 by 7 onto a 4 1/2 by 9 perfectly and will you be able to make the shot in both pockets with one shot. This is only for debate and a non issue when actually playing the game with the system.
Try this at home. $100 if you can do it.
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pool101 is talking about if you layered a 3 1/2 by 7 onto a 4 1/2 by 9 perfectly and will you be able to make the shot in both pockets with one shot. This is only for debate and a non issue when actually playing the game with the system.
Honestly, do you know what would be harder than pocketing all those balls???
Going to the pool room, setting up a camera and curtain over the table and not looking like a fool. That's much tougher.
Would a pro1 user need rails the answer is no! Now would a pro1 user need to know exact location of a pocket, the answer would be no also. (the pocket issue could be a pretty good discussion also I could have with some one very knowledgeable about pro1)
Your comments in bold are correct above because the system is not designed to do that. The system is designed around the table dimensions and pocket locations ( I am not sure how many times I have to say this
). This is part of the mystery almost all don't understand. Cte/pro1 is also the only cte system that does this.
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IMO, I think the majority of shortstops can do the first 2 videos. And, I think the majority of shortstops do not use Pro-One. The bank video is very impressive and a much tougher feat unless you play shortshop level in banks.
I also noticed all the "harder" shots where pocketed early in the videos, and then got "easier".
Do videos of doing this on a 7ft Diamond with pro-cut pockets count?
Great offer and thanks JB.
I also noticed all the "harder" shots where pocketed early in the videos, and then got "easier".
Do videos of doing this on a 7ft Diamond with pro-cut pockets count?
Great offer and thanks JB.
If you are referring to me, you have me wrong. I want it to work. I just want it to be understood, which in my opinion means you need more visuals (although they maybe subconsious) than just a right or left cut and then the relationship of the 2 balls. You cannot have a triangle with only 2 lines.
Anyway I am out of this.
Good shooting Stan!
Who ever made that claim? This is how threads get derailed. CTE doesn't need any reference to pockets and rails after the CB/OB objective targets are identified. That I would concur.
The difference is that CTE is executed with known factors. That is, on a rectangular surface with pockets at known positions, and enough of the rails within visible range to determine the objective targets on the CB and OB.
You are correct, there is more to it than two cuts and two balls. There are four distinct visuals for left cuts and four for right cuts, and for each of those there can be a left or right sweep to center cue ball. By just knowing the pocket you want to go to and the CB/OB relation to that pocket, you can choose the correct CB/OB visual and sweep. Once chosen, you only need focus on CB and OB to find the eye position, then only CB is necessary to move in and execute the shot.
This all becomes evident when shooting bank shots, or using curtains, ie. when the pocket is not in your focus or even in view.
What would get real interesting is if someone was there to slide a curtain between CB and OB after Stan gets his eyes in position
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lol. You know every time John throws one of his "challenges" out there it makes me wonder what the dinner conversation must be like...
(insert Chinese background music)
Karen: hmmmm, I think this is the best duck I've ever eaten.
John: No it's not. Chan makes a better duck.
Karen: No. I prefer Chin's. Chan's is always a little too dry for my taste.
John: Bet! Get Chan and Chin to make two ducks apiece and then set up a blind taste test. You get the first 10 people that walk by to try the ducks, get them to vote, and see which one they say is better -- I'll bet a $100 and spot you one vote. Get some, nit!
(fade out on lantern)
Lou Figueroa
But Lou, you can't eat two ducks!
This is just an example of a troll making a completely irrelevant claim in an attempt to derail the topic. There has to be one of those. :thumbup:
I just finished my redo for:
Curtain 2
Curtain 3
And
28 Ball run
All today Do I get a $100 lol
I apologize for any inconvenience if you have been trying to access a YouTube video and drew a blank. I will begin putting the three back up tonight and will complete by tomorrow.
I live and learn everyday, sometimes the hard way but it really went quite smooth for the redos.
Stan Shuffett
Curtain 2
Curtain 3
And
28 Ball run
All today
Do I get a $100 lolI apologize for any inconvenience if you have been trying to access a YouTube video and drew a blank. I will begin putting the three back up tonight and will complete by tomorrow.
I live and learn everyday, sometimes the hard way but it really went quite smooth for the redos.
Stan Shuffett
I just finished my redo for:
Curtain 2
Curtain 3
And
28 Ball run
All today
I apologize for any inconvenience if you have been trying to access a YouTube video and drew a blank. I will begin putting the three back up tonight and will complete by tomorrow.
I live and learn everyday, sometimes the hard way but it really went quite smooth for the redos.
Stan Shuffett
Stan, have you tried throwing a welders mask in the mix?
JC
Coos Cues
What did I say? I said that's all that has been proved.
It's an advertisement for what he's teaching. And a pretty convincing one I must admit. But that's what it is none the less. I for one plan to buy his DVD #2 because frankly what was presented on #1 which I also bought, I just couldn't wrap my brain around. I am hoping that Stan's claim that it's laid out in a more understandable manner is true. His videos give me hope that it is. If I was anywhere near Kentucky I would pony up to learn from him in person, but alas I'm not.
JC
..... I use a microwave ... don't understand how it works .. but the stuff comes out hot.. ...
... some prefer a wood stove.. it was good it enough back in the day ... it is good enough now...
... the whole world is wired and movies are downloadable to multiple devices at anytime... (don't know how that works but I like it... )
... some are still trying to set the clock on their VCR... but dang it they already have that movie why do they have to buy another one!
... I am learning CTE ProOne... and my ball pocketing is improving (don't know how it works exactly but that never stopped me before :grin
... now if I could just find my slide rule and the update hardcopy of the IRS Code I ordered .. I might be able to finish my taxes.. in time for the pony express pick ... :smile:
... some prefer a wood stove.. it was good it enough back in the day ... it is good enough now...
... the whole world is wired and movies are downloadable to multiple devices at anytime... (don't know how that works but I like it... )
... some are still trying to set the clock on their VCR... but dang it they already have that movie why do they have to buy another one!
... I am learning CTE ProOne... and my ball pocketing is improving (don't know how it works exactly but that never stopped me before :grin
... now if I could just find my slide rule and the update hardcopy of the IRS Code I ordered .. I might be able to finish my taxes.. in time for the pony express pick ... :smile:
This needs to be moved to the aiming section.
Nice shooting Stan.
I'm at least equally impressed by the capacity of the drop pockets.
Nice shooting Stan.
I'm at least equally impressed by the capacity of the drop pockets.
..... I use a microwave ... don't understand how it works .. but the stuff comes out hot.. ...
... some prefer a wood stove.. it was good it enough back in the day ... it is good enough now...
... the whole world is wired and movies are downloadable to multiple devices at anytime... (don't know how that works but I like it... )
... some are still trying to set the clock on their VCR... but dang it they already have that movie why do they have to buy another one!
... I am learning CTE ProOne... and my ball pocketing is improving (don't know how it works exactly but that never stopped me before :grin
... now if I could just find my slide rule and the update hardcopy of the IRS Code I ordered .. I might be able to finish my taxes.. in time for the pony express pick ... :smile:
This is the best way to learn it! you will figure out the HOW later, just keep practicing and getting better :thumbup: This is what I did and now I know pretty much everything about it.
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Nice plug, make your link clickable in your sig and you will get some more business. I tried to go to your site but I am too lazy to copy and paste your link.I didn't say that you can't do it any other way I said if you can just do it. This is an example of pocketing balls with a curtain in the way. I think it's impressive and want to see if anyone else can do it any way they want to - unaided.
Ok, CTE needs a pool table with fixed pockets. I concede that point. Now can you do this or not?
I will certainly try it. And I know I am a cheerleader, have said this about myself a 1000 times. It's my way of giving back to community like Hal gave to me.
Stan made it look easy because he is one of the most highly trained practitioners of this method on the planet Actually the most highly trained.
His demonstration is an example of what is achievable in precision pocketing. I would guess that most people would like to have that sort of precision in their game. This is an example of one path towards that goal.
Absolutely, any video counts on any pool table. I don't think that the majority of shortstops could do the first two videos though, maybe the corner pocket one but I doubt it. I have seen too many pros miss "easy" shots to think that this is by any means an easy feat. However I will be happy to spend the money to see it.
Louie Louie Louie.....don't you understand anything? You don't bet with Chinese women, they are always right and they get all the money regardless. Karen just knows to smile and say yes John, you're right Chan's duck is better now give me $100 and I meekly hand it over. I'd much rather give you 9/8 for $100 a game than to argue with my wife.
I just finished my redo for:
Curtain 2
Curtain 3
And
28 Ball run
All today
I apologize for any inconvenience if you have been trying to access a YouTube video and drew a blank. I will begin putting the three back up tonight and will complete by tomorrow.
I live and learn everyday, sometimes the hard way but it really went quite smooth for the redos.
Stan Shuffett
Thanks for ruining my thread Stan!
For everyone else I appreciate all the comments. For me this is a great accomplishment. You all can discuss the technical aspects and speculate on how it's done but the fact remains that it was done and is (will be) there for all to see and judge for themselves. Some will be dismissive and claim that they are not impressed and others will be impressed and listen to the advice.
Someone said great claims require extraordinary proof. Well, to me making all these shots like this is extraordinary proof.
I still have $100 cash and $200 case credit to anyone that matches or exceeds it with any method they choose. Not a bet, just pay for performance.
No one is anti aiming John. At best, we're anti aiming system dvd for sale. If it works for some, that's great. Some of us don't need it, that's all. It's like religion -some need them, some don't. To say I'm anti aiming is to imply I don't aim my object ball and it's by luck alone they ever go in.
I don't know if I could do this or not -probably not, but I will never go through the effort of constructing the curtains, buying a camera, etc. unless I have something to sell. I don't get enough time to practice as it is and I have my own $100 bill if I feel the need to stare at one. I'm impressed with Stan's abilities and hope he helps everyone who needs it.
Be well,
James
I don't know if I could do this or not -probably not, but I will never go through the effort of constructing the curtains, buying a camera, etc. unless I have something to sell. I don't get enough time to practice as it is and I have my own $100 bill if I feel the need to stare at one. I'm impressed with Stan's abilities and hope he helps everyone who needs it.
Be well,
James