:grin::grin: mohrt, your alright lol :thumbup:
Try this at home. $100 if you can do it.
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:grin::grin: mohrt, your alright lol :thumbup:
Taking that concept further, the square is actually two rectangle tables side-by-side. So what was a bank on the square table turns in to a double-bank on the rectangle table. Same visuals, opposite pockets.
I think we have a since of direction of where the pocket is do to the rails.
If we where some how to block off the table where we had know Ideal where the pocket is none of us would even get close without lady luck helping.Think about this, how does Stan know what line up to use to pocket the ball?He knows where the pocket is,that's a fact or it is voodoo.
Since of direction is playing its part but he is making it more difficult by blocking the pocket which would be tough still to pocket the balls he did.
Anthony
If we where some how to block off the table where we had know Ideal where the pocket is none of us would even get close without lady luck helping.Think about this, how does Stan know what line up to use to pocket the ball?He knows where the pocket is,that's a fact or it is voodoo.
Since of direction is playing its part but he is making it more difficult by blocking the pocket which would be tough still to pocket the balls he did.
Anthony
If you want to write something this is what you need to write about :thumbup:
I think we have a since of direction of where the pocket is do to the rails.
If we where some how to block off the table where we had know Ideal where the pocket is none of us would even get close without lady luck helping.Think about this, how does Stan know what line up to use to pocket the ball?He knows where the pocket is,that's a fact or it is voodoo.
Since of direction is playing its part but he is making it more difficult by blocking the pocket which would be tough still to pocket the balls he did.
Anthony
You seriously have to learn to ask question and not give answers about pro1, anthony :grin: and now im done, again
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This is a great post! Fantastic!
Please do not think I am just ignoring you. All of this will be unravelled in a timely fashion.
I spent 10,000 hours and 12,500 total on DVD1 to put out system information.
10 months ago I was prompted by new discoveries and insights significant enough to warrant a DVD2. I spent 350 hours preparing for filming. Then the filming was 3 days. My editing work after filming has totaled at least another 80-100 hours. And that does not include other editing work.
I am spending 14,O00 this go-round. I am working feverishly to get this out.
A DVD is coming! It is weeks away. Not for sure how many weeks....but the end is drawing near.
I have put a ton of info out....I will continue to do so but my DVD2 is based on 2 major things: Understanding CTE and of course, I will reteach CTE PRO ONE because DVD1 will cease to be at some point.
I am working hard to reach the finish line....
Stan Shuffett
Well I have spoke with Ron And Hal,I also have Stans dvd.Been pivoting for awhile now.The Guy that Im really thankful to is Ron ,just because what he teaches is so much easier to understand.
I have a better understanding then you mite think.:smile:
Anthony
I think we have a since of direction of where the pocket is do to the rails.
If we where some how to block off the table where we had know Ideal where the pocket is none of us would even get close without lady luck helping.Think about this, how does Stan know what line up to use to pocket the ball?He knows where the pocket is,that's a fact or it is voodoo.
Since of direction is playing its part but he is making it more difficult by blocking the pocket which would be tough still to pocket the balls he did.
Anthony
Look at the table a few posts up. If you were to shoot the 3 ball into the top-right corner pocket, it would require a specific visual on the CB/OB to make that shot. Covering the pocket with a curtain makes no difference.
Hal sought me out too.... He tried to teach me manual CTE over the phone several times but it just didn't click, I got the concept but could never fade the manual pivot. Tom Simpson and a mutual friend of ours that both learned from Hal in person tried to show me but, once again, I could not fade the manual pivot. Stan, with Pro One, unlocked the real secret to it.... Many people have discredited Hal for years and now want to discredit Stan, BUT, Hal's whole theory and practice of CTE was learned from Ralph Greenleaf, try to discredit what he did with it..... Watch just about any pro speed player as they address the shot and go down to the ball.... What do you see? Ohhhh, a pivot. When Hal was teaching me the system I was around world class players every day and seen every single one of them executing a pivot or visual sweep on every shot, just as Hal suggested.
Ron V pivot is just a pivot or a movement, Stan shuffett's pivot has meaning and a connection :thumbup: try and understand this so I can leave these cte discussions lol
Champ ???????!!!!!!?!
Disagree here, they both do the exact same thing, just go about it a little bit different. The shots Stan made "blind" can also be done with 90/90. As they both make a connection between ob/cb, and the general pocket direction is all that needs to be known about the pocket.
John "The Baptist" Barton - a voice shouting in the wilderness. :grin-square:
"What could be crazier than seeing and still not believing?" - The Mad Hatter
"What could be crazier than seeing and still not believing?" - The Mad Hatter
maybe I am wrong. I want out of these dicusions loldont call me out lol
Hiya Champ! Long time, no see. sup? :grin:
Reminds me of the double/triple/quadruple 'overlap'/fold at the seams-as many adjoining table surfaces-as needed aiming or spacial visualizations sometimes referenced in demonstrating fly on the wall ..banking, kicking,2 railing, 3 railing etc approach.
The science alludes me.
But, results trump understanding the methodology. If one can drastically improve their results, having been shown a set of discrete approaches.....why would you not give it a legitimate trial. If the method gets you aligned to deliver the cb on the correct shot line....what's not to like.
Understanding may be over-rated. It can show up later....fine.
This sh1t is getting real...in a very good way.
Nice. Your room looks really neat as well. I like all the old signs on the walls.
My take on this is that with a systematic approach to aiming, be it ProOne/CTE or SEE or 90/90 or even the fractional aiming the pockets are not needed. They are there and don't move. You make the connection to the shot based on the approach to the shot and you dial in either precisely as with ProOne or maybe less precisely with other methods, or even as precisely, but you dial-in. You're not guessing or imagining or fidgeting.
Yes, I totally agree that any high level player should be able to shoot shots in without being able to see the pockets. These players have faced these angles so many times in their life it's like being able to throw a paper ball into a wastebasket without looking after you have done it a zillion times.
What systematic aiming does is put the player in the right frame from the beginning ON EVERY SHOT. That's important to say because when a person is trying to learn a shot without systematic aiming, depending on the severity of the shot, they can miss by diamonds on either side of the pocket. But with systematic aiming they don't miss by a diamond more than once if they happened to choose the wrong aim point. When they have found the right aimpoints and visuals which takes less than a minute, they then miss, if they miss, by fractions of an inch.
And the more they practice that system the more adept they become at seeing the right visual/formula for any shot they face.
AND THIS IS WHERE IT'S IMPORTANT.
Sorry for shouting but this is where using a system pays off.
Once you know it then you OWN it for ANY SHOT YOU FACE.
Even the shots that you have never practiced in your life. Even the seemingly impossible ones. Even the do-or-die ones that you would normally avoid like the plague and would otherwise sell out 10 of 10 tries. For all those shots with a good system you have a better than 50% chance to make it on the first time you ever face it.
And if you are really a good student and you know the visuals then you have a better than 80% chance to make it.
And if you're Landon Shuffet or Stan Shuffet or Stevie Moore then those shots that announcers call "testers" don't look so tough anymore and you have a better chance than most other players of any level to make that shot under pressure.
That to me is the biggest advantage of systematic aiming.
Thanks John, but you should see the other half of the room!:smile:
Any system or method that works for you is the one you should use..
Stan has found his, and a lot of people seem to really like it.
Others, don't like it for what ever reason. However you can see by the videos that the system works and works well!
Everyone needs to make their own choice use it or not..
Mark