Turning Stone Joss NE Tour Stream?

The fellas on Fedor's stream said that Jonnys live on facespace calling himself Capt America lol and how no one gives a shit about him... The plot thickens...
He started calling himself that last night on the stream
 
I like the spirit of this but at some point actions must speak louder than words. He doesn't need an hour long rambling session to get a second chance from most of us. All he has to do is admit he wronged Oscar and then pay the man. Sounds like he still hasn't sent Oscar a penny. Just words. Quite frankly, his rambling came across as narcissistic as he completely ignored the match he was in the booth to discuss. Like maybe mention a good shot here and there as you're discussing your life's troubles.
Oscar is content to let his Facebook friends do the dirty work and put 100% of the blame on Johnny.

But there is much more to this story which would make both of them look very very bad.

If anyone is owed money from the match, it's their stakehorses.
 
Oscar is content to let his Facebook friends do the dirty work and put 100% of the blame on Johnny.

But there is much more to this story which would make both of them look very very bad.

If anyone is owed money from the match, it's their stakehorses.

Archer and his backer air barreled him so please stop with this nonsense. The blame is 100% on Johnny pal!
 
I agree that it is in poor taste to throw JA through the coals on social media. Frankly, Oscar probably wrote this off 5 years ago (or whenever it happened, I forget now). A few people with nothing better to do are bringing it up, and harassing JA about it. They are all in the wrong IMO. JA is no saint, but so freaking what? If he stiffed for a million he shouldn't get this blowback from random "fans". JA has a body of work in his career, and this situation should not throw that all away. That's the problem with the internet, everyone focuses on one tiny thing that is a waste of time.
 
I agree that it is in poor taste to throw JA through the coals on social media. Frankly, Oscar probably wrote this off 5 years ago (or whenever it happened, I forget now). A few people with nothing better to do are bringing it up, and harassing JA about it. They are all in the wrong IMO. JA is no saint, but so freaking what? If he stiffed for a million he shouldn't get this blowback from random "fans". JA has a body of work in his career, and this situation should not throw that all away. That's the problem with the internet, everyone focuses on one tiny thing that is a waste of time.

If you are a piece of crap that takes no accountability for your actions then you deserve whatever criticism comes your way. Don’t want to be thrown under the coals then be a good person and don’t screw people over!
 
If you are a piece of crap that takes no accountability for your actions then you deserve whatever criticism comes your way. Don’t want to be thrown under the coals then be a good person and don’t screw people over!
No. How many bad things did you do in your life? Should everyone make light of them all over facebook? Give me a break. Life doesn't work like that. It's just people hanging on a Pro's nuts, in this case Oscar's (and I like Oscar, nothing against him). They are going for their 15 min at the expense of JA. If anything, it makes them look like fools, not JA, not Oscar.
 
Archer and his backer air barreled him so please stop with this nonsense. The blame is 100% on Johnny pal!
I don't think anyone would disagree that Johnny is a POS for not paying.

But, no money was posted even though it was well-known that Johnny was having issues.

And after the match Oscar "loaned" Johnny the money.

So is Johnny still responsible for ensuring that Oscar's stakehorse gets paid?

Or did Oscar air barrel his own stakehorse by making the loan?
 
No. How many bad things did you do in your life? Should everyone make light of them all over facebook? Give me a break. Life doesn't work like that. It's just people hanging on a Pro's nuts, in this case Oscar's (and I like Oscar, nothing against him). They are going for their 15 min at the expense of JA. If anything, it makes them look like fools, not JA, not Oscar.

I have done plenty wrong in my day but I’m not a public figure and we are not talking about me. It comes with the territory for JA. And if I did do someone wrong and everyone on social media called me out for it that’s ok because I deserve it! Also that is exactly how life works so I’m not sure what world you live in? You do wrong you get put on blast which is how it should be. He should stay on blast until he pays up too.

If I understand you correctly you think he deserves a pass because of his body of work? Too funny man too funny. You can be a piece of shit and air barrel people as long as you are good enough and have won enough tournaments. It’s people that think like you that are the problem not the trolls on the internet. SMH
 
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I don't think anyone would disagree that Johnny is a POS for not paying.

But, no money was posted even though it was well-known that Johnny was having issues.

And after the match Oscar "loaned" Johnny the money.

So is Johnny still responsible for ensuring that Oscar's stakehorse gets paid?

Or did Oscar air barrel his own stakehorse by making the loan?

And you know Oscar didn’t check with his backer first?
 
no chance of that. i think it's more of a goal, and it's good to have a goal if you're kicking a drug/drink habit. he lost weight too
You don't steal from friends and / or you don't S where you eat.
That's about character.
 
I agree that it is in poor taste to throw JA through the coals on social media. Frankly, Oscar probably wrote this off 5 years ago (or whenever it happened, I forget now). A few people with nothing better to do are bringing it up, and harassing JA about it. They are all in the wrong IMO. JA is no saint, but so freaking what? If he stiffed for a million he shouldn't get this blowback from random "fans". JA has a body of work in his career, and this situation should not throw that all away. That's the problem with the internet, everyone focuses on one tiny thing that is a waste of time.
Didn't JA have alot to do with driving another pro out of pool?
Methinks so.
 
I have done plenty wrong in my day but I’m not a public figure and we are not talking about me. It comes with the territory for JA. And if I did do someone wrong and everyone on social media called me out for it that’s ok because I deserve it! Also that is exactly how life works so I’m not sure what world you live in? You do wrong you get put on blast which is how it should be. He should stay on blast until he pays up too.

If I understand you correctly you think he deserves a pass because of his body of work? Too funny man too funny. You can be a piece of shit and air barrel people as long as you are good enough and have won enough tournaments. It’s people that think like you that are the problem not the trolls on the internet. SMH
How long should people troll him if he never pays Oscar/backer/whomever was really "stiffed" (since everyone has a different story anyway what really went down)? Until he dies? For something that happens EVERY day in pool? It's much ado about NOTHING.

Sure, I'll remember JA didn't pay a bet if I ever seem him in action.But I'm not going to blast him all over social media. That would just make me look the fool. ESPECIALLY if I'm not the guy he stiffed!

How many guys in the local room have you seen gamble when they owe someone else? I've seen it every single day. And you know what, as long as they have the money on the light on this "new game", no one can do shit about the old game that was not paid. Gambling in pool is right here, right now.
 
Back to the tournament, does anyone know if it's a WNT ranking event? I didn't see anything that said it was. Thanks.
 
Archer and his backer air barreled him so please stop with this nonsense. The blame is 100% on Johnny pal!

i've heard the number and it's big enough to not let slide, but was it the last shot that was an air barrel? or did he meet up with no money?
 
While not a JS fan that is still pretty harsh. He's not a thug. I think a better word would be 'DOUCHEBAG' and i'll tell you why. Back when he played the challenge match at Bill's in MidwestCity his wife/gf/ol lady SUPPOSEDLY got poisoned/mickey-finn'd. After the smoke cleared and nothing of the sort happened NO ONE, including JAM, issued one iota of an apology. In fact she was one of the first to jump on the 'Let's Bumkick Bill's Billiards' bandwagon based on NOTHING but hearsay. I have ZERO time for anything she says. Keep her at the top of the PERMA-IGNORE list. She likes slinging shit and then playing the poor lil victim card when things go sideways. Her and shaw are a perfect match.
I thought I was the only person who didn’t like jam lol nice
 
You mean Jayson Shore???
Kills me every time he says it lol

Im not fond of him either. All I can say is a friend who is fortunate enough to travel and play in a lot of pro tournaments has said Shaw is one of the few pros that actually talk to you and treat you like an equal player. The rest won’t even look at you let alone speak to you like your some how below them
 
That was more unhinged that anything I ever heard Earl say....literally 65 minutes on one breath.
It's better if you listen to it yourself. It was raw and emotional. It was real (albeit strange and rambling at times) and unscripted. I'm sure he feels like a huge weight was lifted off his shoulders. I didn't agree with the borderline threats, but he was letting off some steam that needed to be released undoubtedly. I don't know the whole story, maybe no one does, but if he's really doing what he said he was, I'm a fan again. We all need a second chance sometimes, this is his, from me.

apparently the circus continues. johnny's having a podcast with oscar today. i really struggle to see what good that could possibly do.
 
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