He did make the QF in this US Open, barely losing hill-hill to the eventual champion. It can both be true that no one is on his level and he doesn't win every tournament.
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0 political agenda? LOL. Come on.
Rogan's wikipedia page has almost 2000 words describing his political views. He is one of the most well-known political figures and commentators in America.
Ok, thanks for the info.
But I must ask - what shade of grey? Or is there only one shade of grey by CPBA cloth?
Is he really that much better than Fedor Gorst, KPC, SVB, FSR of late, etc. though? I still think he's the best but the gap between him and the other top tier players is not enormous by any means IMO.
His show is not inherently political whatsoever. The fact that his wikipedia page describes his political views is more indicative of the current political climate than it is about him as a public figure.
Wikipedia is great for movie plot summaries.
You gotta start by differentiating the people getting in on “Meritorious Service” vs getting in on the “Greatest Player” category. Then you have to remember that pool is deep in an international era these days with multiple major opens and world championships available. That’s very different than what pool looked like in the 70s, 80s and 90s. You look through different lenses for each era. Like when you look at Rodney and Kim.
But the modern lens?
Jayson has peers that have won the US Open, Intl Open, multiple world championships. It begs the question whether someone that never won a world championship in a relevant discipline makes the cut. You gotta weigh his US Open, 2x Intl Open, and Hanoi Open heavily. I think you gotta weigh his exhibition performances lighter. You can make a case he crossed the line. But amongst his peers, it’s an “eke in” not a “kick the door in” resume. But for me, I do tend to agree he crossed the threshold.
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Shaw also gets credit for the world blackball championship and the straight pool record, not to mention his epic Mosconi Cup performances and his showmanship in the process. Without those he's not in the HOF.
From AtLarge's summary post of career Mosconi records, Shaw's is (10 yrs. -- 2016-2025) ..... 17-6 s, 16-11 d, 8-6 t, 41-23 total A (64%), 26.6-12.7 total B (68%).
same as over here then. my parents have a zillion channels they never watch. the kids don't watch cable, in fact they don't watch much on tv at all vs the tablet/phone.
it's possible joe rogan was a bigger thing than ESPN.
he has the worlds biggest podcast.
This made me think of a movie where a character says "I am Guan Yi, and Guan Yi has done this",
I think the blackball championship only gets credited because we want him in. In general the BCA HoF has not had a history of inducting players that have dominated in that arena like Mick Hill or Gareth Potts. Or does it make more sense for those disciplines to just have their own HoF. Otherwise it feels like cherry picking just for Jayson. Do we do the same for Melling?
And honestly I’m trying my hardest not to stump against Jayson. I’m a huge fan. I just find it thought provoking to discuss how different people can have a different litmus test on this topic. And how there’s a push/pull between honoring the household names you know and love vs. trying to toe a hard line to ensure the recognition means something to the highest pedigree of significance.
do you think if you did 2-3 hour podcasts on a daily basis that you would say something political now and then? he mostly talks about aliens, comedy and mma
Most people barely recognize that their statements are political.
Like how criticizing someone's political beliefs IS a political statement.
I agree with you. His case seemed pretty flimsy all things considered and the blackball championship was a backdoor justification. Pretty much all HOFers will have at least one world championship and that checked the box for Shaw.
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Doesn't matter, just it being him will draw in people that wouldn't have necessarily wanted to watch. We need a broader audience than just pool fans.
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Blackball is not pool, so that should not factor into his HOF resume IMO. Neither should a straight pool record that no top pro was trying to break other than him. It's impressive that he ran the 700 balls or whatever it was, but let's be honest here: if tomorrow some big sponsor announced a million dollar prize for the first person to break Shaw's record, it would be broken.
Similarly, Mosconi cup is an exhibition. It should not carry any weight in HOF consideration. Especially considering that it's essentially a no-contest most years.
I think Shaw is an interesting borderline case for the HOF. There's no doubt that when he's in top form, he's almost in a league of his own -- only Earl I would say has ever made the game look quite as effortless as Shaw did in his final match to win the International Open against Lechner, for example. But the problem is that that's Shaws' A-game. His average game is not nearly that elite, and his tournament resume is not even close to someone like FSR. I could go either way on whether he deserves a HOF spot, but ultimately I probably lean yes.
If Shane had been eligible for the HoF in 2021 - before the finally won the World 9b and World 8b - do you think he wouldn’t have been a lock?
Corey never won a world championship - although I don’t think he was a “lock” I think he’s a deserving member.
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At least for a while in pro carom events, the players got a number of timeouts for the whole match and there would be no beeper for the first expiration(s). The time would just be silently extended, and the player would be notified of the used extension after the shot.