U.S. pool tournaments '80-'89

[Bob Jewett]

It seems that Deno has taken down the files.

Ursitti's files with the tournament records are now back up:

Client Challenge

 

[T411]

with older rules, no jumping, slow tables, and changing conditions you find the fields of winners much more diversified than nowadays.

just coincidence or are the top players so much better. or the playing conditions more conducive to the consistent.

Bob? what do you think?

and the rest of the forum.

I think it comes down to a couple of things.

Back then, the tournament money wasn’t that big, so for a lot of players, the real action was in the gambling that went on around the event. The tournaments were almost a meeting place where the serious money games happened on the side.

The other thing is there were a lot of great players who never became household names that preferred the action scene, but they could play with anybody. That made the fields feel deeper and the results more spread out.

 

[maha]

and tournament play is different. when betting big you see the change in a player when he gets stuck and his game goes down.
two different things is tournament play, and cash betting. one takes a tough stomach to survive. and has to play on whatever equipment is there.

 

[lfigueroa]

Ursitti's files with the tournament records are now back up:

Client Challenge

What’s up with Deno nowadays?

He used to be a frequent poster on the groups but then disappeared…

Lou Figueroa

 

[Black-Balled]

pockets were larger and more forgiving on most tables. but with slower cloth and no air conditioning tables played much slower. so you had to have a stronger stroke to get around.
i believe in total it also made for less advantage for the very top players in general against those close to them in speed.
that amy be q reason why the results of tournaments were not totally dominated by the top ten players in the world or entries into the tournament.

I think for a good player, slower cloth would be largely a non-issue.

A good player will play shape angles that get the job done..

Shallow or steep angles TBD, based on distance needs, table speed and pocket size.

 

[maha]

most players develop a stroke for the cloth speeds they play on. some can adjust some cant as well.
slow cloth requires a more powerful stroke for rotation games.

 

[Black-Balled]

most players develop a stroke for the cloth speeds they play on. some can adjust some cant as well.
slow cloth requires a more powerful stroke for rotation games.

Most players don't win tournaments either.

I'm talking about players who can choose what type of position/ pocketing they need for whatever they're playing on.

Good players can and do.