I know that and that was the reason for my post this morning. The forced follow and high follow shot can not be obtained with the typical pendulum stroke. Both much easier with a dropped elbow stroke. It's a great video,and I love the shots.
Ultimate Argument: Pendulum vs Piston Stroke
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I know that and that was the reason for my post this morning. The forced follow and high follow shot can not be obtained with the typical pendulum stroke. Both much easier with a dropped elbow stroke. It's a great video,and I love the shots.
The idea that the snooker stance offers less power is stupid. Snooker players power the ball just as much as, if not more than, pool players do in competitive play.
The pool stance does not enable more spin or more power. All it is, is a bit more comfortable, particularly on pool tables which are generally a couple inches lower than snooker tables. And it's what people in the pool-dominated parts of the world tend to learn first, which makes a big difference in which one will yield the best personal results.
The pool stance does not enable more spin or more power. All it is, is a bit more comfortable, particularly on pool tables which are generally a couple inches lower than snooker tables. And it's what people in the pool-dominated parts of the world tend to learn first, which makes a big difference in which one will yield the best personal results.
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Of course they can. If the elbow drops during follow through (but after contact) it's still a pendulum stroke. In fact, the elbow drop after contact isn't necessary either.
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I think it's needed on power shots to keep your arm from hurting. Or at least that's the way it works for my arm.
check out the first shot and snooker player trump starting at around 9:40 or so
they have several of his shots.
do these qualify for you as power shots with a pendulum stroke?
on some shots you might see slight elbow drop but the elbow is fixed until the very end .
here cue does end more downward than straight or up it appears to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxPAhlLOqg0
Yes these shots can be done with a pendulum stroke! Because YOU cant do it doesn't mean it can't be done. Yes it can be done with out any elbow drop after the tip striking the cue ball.
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I had omitted the word "not" from the second quote. I edited it now so it's less bafflingly contradictory.
1. Forced follow is a power shot.
2. Many players can execute your shot with a pendulum stroke.
3. You've got the 8
1. Forced follow is a power shot.
2. Many players can execute your shot with a pendulum stroke.
3. You've got the 8
Okay, maybe so. But, I've got to see it in a video. Please post yours.
Your problem with a piston stroke appears to be caused by your setup. With your forearm vertical your tip is a foot from the CB - you have to drop your elbow to even hit the CB.
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I play dropping the elbow so no problem. Show your video doing the shot of forced follow with pure pendulum.
No problem for you - just for your judgment about the pendulum stroke. Of course it won't work if you don't set up for it.
I don't think your shot in the video is really a force follow shot - it's mostly just force. If there was much follow on it the CB would have gone shorter (more cross table).
I'm not criticizing your skill - just pointing out how that shot, good as it is, doesn't really support your point about piston vs. pendulum strokes.
pj
chgo
Don't judge the horrible stroke. The CB did go out with weak "forced follow" but some. I'm wanting and waiting to see the same shot with a pure pendulum stroke with zero elbow drop.
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And you wonder why people give you crap? Lol....
1. You can't play dead.
2. You talk down to people that can.
3. Reread 1. and 2. until it sinks in.
You don't realize that video was made to prove the opposite? Did you watch the whole thing?
pj
chgo
What is this guy's obsession with drop/no drop? What point is he trying to prove? You can play great pool(and draw/follow the s^*t out of your rock) either way. Jeez.