UltraSkin tip questions

macguy

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I recently got some UltraSkin tips and had some questions about them. In the past I have used Moori tips and I would take a few layers off from the start. They seemed to play more to my liking when they were a little lower.

I notice the UltraSkins are quite thick. Do any of you take any layers off when installing? Also, just curious, why are the tips different colors such as black. I wonder if the black dye or what ever it is has any negative effect on the tips. Why do it?

When I dressed the UltraSkin I had the black powder all over my hands and shirt. What would be so wrong with the tips just being a natural color like the old Moori? I think I would prefer that. They have a nice look when dressed and burnished.
 
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I have used ultra-skins several times on my Jacoby Edge hybrid shaft. I have used the Very soft, as recommended by my cuemaker as it is equal to more like a medium tip on other tips. It keeps shape nicely, and I had not had any trouble with mushrooming.

I can tell you that the first time I hit with it on my hybrid shaft it was grabbing the ball too much and squirting. My cuemaker took it down about 2 layers and it was perfect. Since then I have him take it down similarly when I need a new tip about once a year.

My cuemaker's daughter is semi-professional and she has him takes it down many layers to when it it is pretty thin.

Great tip.... no problems. Have lots of team-members that use them as well, after my recommendation.
 
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It has been my experience, both as a cue maker, and repairer, that I/8th inch (when measured on the side of the tip) is the best to start.
As to the discoloration, it is your technique that is causing the problem. Not the tip. Use compressed air from a narrow nozzle while sanding, or sand the tip away from the ferrule. If you install the tip correctly you will sand very little, anyway.
The Ultraskin is, in my opinion, is the best going. :smile:
 
When I tried them I had to cut them down a little, way too tall for my liking if you don't. Not a tip I'm a fan of though, always mushroomed on me rand never felt very good. Other people seem to love them however, so must just be me.
 
slide13 said:
When I tried them I had to cut them down a little, way too tall for my liking if you don't. Not a tip I'm a fan of though, always mushroomed on me rand never felt very good. Other people seem to love them however, so must just be me.
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Layered tips do not mushroom. They may flare at the top a bit (especially when abused, or cut too high), but they won't mushroom.
 
Tramp Steamer said:
Layered tips do not mushroom. They may flare at the top a bit (especially when abused, or cut too high), but they won't mushroom.
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Well, flair at the top then....which sounds pretty similar to mushroom to me, this to a lesser degree I guess. My tips were not abused at all, happened within the first couple playing sessions and I wasn't breaking with them. I'd trim it up and it happened again. Never plaid them long enough to know if it would happen a third time as I didn't like the feel.
 
slide13 said:
Well, flair at the top then....which sounds pretty similar to mushroom to me, this to a lesser degree I guess. My tips were not abused at all, happened within the first couple playing sessions and I wasn't breaking with them. I'd trim it up and it happened again. Never plaid them long enough to know if it would happen a third time as I didn't like the feel.
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Good God, man. A mushroom looks like a mushroom. Take a look at a beat to hell Le Pro and you'll see what a mushroom is.
 
Tramp Steamer said:
Layered tips do not mushroom. They may flare at the top a bit (especially when abused, or cut too high), but they won't mushroom.
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Sorry tramp but many layered softs and mediums will absolutely mushroom because they were not pressed very hard during the construction process...

When a soft layered compresses into a medium or a medium layered to a hard the layers pancake and spread out...

They won't mushroom like a single layered tip that is improperly burnished tho where it poofs out in the middle like it has a spare tire.....
 
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Sorry tramp but many layered softs and mediums will absolutely mushroom because they were not pressed very hard during the construction process...
When a soft layered compresses into a medium or a medium layered to a hard the layers pancake and spread out...
They won't mushroom like a single layered tip that is improperly burnished tho where it poofs out in the middle like it has a spare tire.....
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Since I've been using Moori's, and many, many others, for the past 15 years, and have never seen what everyone knows to be a mushroomed tip, perhaps you'll find one and post a picture. Be sure and let us know what kind it is, too.
Let me guess. Yours never do. Right?
 
Black is the natural color of an UltraSkin after the layers are treated.

Some have tried misguiding by claims the layered tips are all the same, just pressed harder. This is not the case with UltraSkins as from the PRO to the HH they are all the same height.

Without question some take off more layers than others, it becomes like fine tuning for your type play.

No one shoe will fit all feet, same goes with the Cue Tip. I don't like Pineapple on Pizza but others do.

Thanks,
Tom

macguy said:
I recently got some UltraSkin tips and had some questions about them. In the past I have used Moori tips and I would take a few layers off from the start. They seemed to play more to my liking when they were a little lower.

I notice the UltraSkins are quite thick. Do any of you take any layers off when installing? Also, just curious, why are the tips different colors such as black. I wonder if the black dye or what ever it is has any negative effect on the tips. Why do it?

When I dressed the UltraSkin I had the black powder all over my hands and shirt. What would be so wrong with the tips just being a natural color like the old Moori? I think I would prefer that. They have a nice look when dressed and burnished.
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I applied one of Tom Hay's Ultra soft tips. I like it from start to current.(it is almost time to replace). It plays as well as the $20 Predator tips I was buying. My only complaint is it leaves a blank scuff on the cloth....must be from the dye. Not big deal as it brushes right off. These are very good tips in my opinion....and more than reasonably priced.
 
If I am switching over from a Kamui Black Hard what would be the equivalent hardness in UltraSkin?
 
wontonny said:
If I am switching over from a Kamui Black Hard what would be the equivalent hardness in UltraSkin?
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Sorry, to date I have never hit with a Kamui.

Clow Cues was kind enough to write this up on the feel of the Tips, hope it helps.

UltraSkin Tips Review By John Clow

The Tips,
First things first, UltraSkin tips are far superior than their more expensive counterparts.

UltraSkin Very Soft - Incredibly soft hit with tremendous cueball control

UltraSkin Soft - Very nice hit with a sense of soft touch and great grip of the cueball.

UltraSkin Medium - A good grip and hit you feel through the tip and into the shaft giving you a precise control and feel together!

UltraSkin Hard - A straight shooters paradise tip

UltraSkin Heavy Hitter - Just as the name says, Heavy Hitters are great for the guy who has a heavy and fast stroke or it makes a great tip for the Break with amazing control of the cueball!!

UltraSkin Pro - Want the grip of a soft tip but the firmness of a medium? This tip delivers!!!

Customer Service,
Once again, UltraSkin tips are far superior than their more expensive counterparts in customer service too!

I had a great Monday night! I sold quite few tips! This happening a week before setting up for a big tournament! So I made an order of tips on Tuesday. By Friday of that week the tips sadly did not arrive. I wrote an email to the owner of UltraSkin explaining the situation that I was in. I had asks if there was anyone else in my area who carried them!

He had said, that if i were just a bit more south he would drive them up himself. So I told him, might just drive down myself!!!! Let you know in a few!!!!! We Agreed to meet half way! He saved my weekend tournament!

Tom Hay is a great man with great stories to tell. We sat down for dinner and chatted for about an hour or so! He not only earned my utmost respect, but a customer for life!

John Clow
ClowCues
 
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