Ummm, need some help coach!

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9-ball, my shot. WWYD? This came up in a match and we ended up re-racking. Not sure else to do besides intentionally foul back and forth. 3 foul rule was not in effect.
 
Hmm this has got me thinking. What do you mean u guys kept intentionally fouling? Did u keep hitting the nine around?

I unno what I would do..maybe intentionally pocket the 5 using the 7 or 8..and hope something works out. Opponent will have BIH so not much to do.

Or try jumping right on top of the 5 and somehow keep the CueBall on the table.
 
Nothing to do here..,

You cant be forced to take a foul and neither can your opponent. This game is a stale-mate. Re-rack and start the game over.
 
You cant be forced to take a foul and neither can your opponent. This game is a stale-mate. Re-rack and start the game over.
Then they can gently tap the ball and give ball in hand to the opponent. Either way someone has gotta foul. What I would do I keep doing so until your opponent foul 3 times and it's game if they really don't want to hit the 7 or 8.
 
9-ball, my shot. WWYD? This came up in a match and we ended up re-racking. Not sure else to do besides intentionally foul back and forth. 3 foul rule was not in effect.

This is a good example of why the three foul rule makes sense...
...the onus is on the first player that fouled to do something.

Why take the game back to the dark ages....it's a good rule....USE IT.
 
This is a good example of why the three foul rule makes sense...
...the onus is on the first player that fouled to do something.

Why take the game back to the dark ages....it's a good rule....USE IT.

Yes the first person faced with this can intentionaly foul but if he fouls a 3rd time it's loss of game.

I assume the 5 was like that after the break. If the 5 were left like this after the break you need to open it with a pushout immediately. Or just setup to combo into that cluster with a lower number ball earlier in the run. You can't just run to the 5 ball and break it up with a foul because you are leaving a 3 ball runout with ball in hand.
 
It seems 3 foul is becoming more and more rare though so be prepared to see more of these situations. :(
 
Another idea would be to foul by shooting the 8 into the 5 and making it, leave the 8 on the side of the 7 where the opponent can't shoot a combo with the 7 into the 8. He's left with ball in hand and no real shot except to thin the 7 and run the cueball up table.
 
Another idea would be to foul by shooting the 8 into the 5 and making it, leave the 8 on the side of the 7 where the opponent can't shoot a combo with the 7 into the 8. He's left with ball in hand and no real shot except to thin the 7 and run the cueball up table.
You can take away the combo, but in doing so, you most likely leave an easy billiard or carom.
 
You've been lucky to get some commonsensical responses. There are some here who will argue to the death, that if you "intentionally" shoot at anything other than the object ball ....including just tapping the cue ball that you have forfeited the game under the unsportsmanship guidelines.

Without the thee foul rule, I think you made the right choice by calling it a draw and replaying the game.
 
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i think i would have tried to slow roll the 9 into the 7 causing the 5 to fall and giving ball in hand to my opponent.
 
9-ball, my shot. WWYD? This came up in a match and we ended up re-racking. Not sure else to do besides intentionally foul back and forth. 3 foul rule was not in effect. ...
You may want to read through the rules at least once. Nine ball does have a stalemate rule. Knowing all the rules is important especially if you are going to modify them.

One thing I don't understand is players who are willing to play 3 fouls in tournaments but refuse to do so outside of tournaments. Do they imagine they are at some kind of disadvantage compared to their opponent with three fouls in effect?
 
If 3 fouls is in effect... I like making the 8-5 combo and trying to move the 8 ball to where there is no direct shot on the 7 as mentioned above. That at least would give your opponent a chance to make a mistake. Another alternative is to first hit the nine ball to the other end of the table on your first foul. That makes the run a little harder. The correct response for your opponent is to move the nine to in front of a pocket on his ball-in-hand shot.
 
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i think i would have tried to slow roll the 9 into the 7 causing the 5 to fall and giving ball in hand to my opponent.
I think that's the best choice if 3 fouls is in effect. There should be room for your opponent to place the cue ball to hit the 7 but as long as the 7-9 isn't dead you have a chance.
 
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There are some here who will argue to the death, that if you "intentionally" shoot at anything other than the object ball ....including just tapping the cue ball that you have forfeited the game under the unsportsmanship guidelines.

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I've never heard that one before.
 
You cant be forced to take a foul and neither can your opponent. This game is a stale-mate. Re-rack and start the game over.
Until a stalemate is declared, you are required to take a shot when it's your turn.

If I were playing without the 3 foul rule, I'd wait a while to suggest a stalemate as my opponent might do something stupid.
 
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