* un·scru·pu·lous eBay Seller

bdorman said:
Yeah, I feel the same way, but anyone foolish enough to buy it wasn't going to keep his money very long anyway. I call it "more money than brains."

Oops, I hope you weren't the buyer :-)
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I agree!

I do a lot of business on Ebay myself but it's mostly fishing gear. I haven't bought many "fake" Shimano reels but fishing gear isn't commonly misrepresented ..LOL
I agree the seller has no integrity but if someone is willing to pay that much for something they know little about and want to believe it's something more than it is then so be it. Personally if I were to drop $650 on a cue it wouldn't be an "unkown mystery cue" but that's me. Nor would I buy something with no or little detail to describe what it was if I'm parting with that kind of money...There are plenty of sellers that sell Shimano Chronarchs for over $300 bucks to anyone willing to pay it...I bought all of mine for under $200...same reel, same performance. Do I think the sellers who jack up the prices are jerks? Yep...but I don't buy from those guys. If I did then I'm the jerk who got ripped off.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Yep, Most people that frequent Estate Sales have a really good idea on many things found at one. If they find a cue, they will probably do some research on it as well.

It could be a hand carved cue from India or it could be of serious value. If they buy something for 10 bucks, they aren't going to sell it for 20 if it is worth 100.

Estate turn overs don't work like that.
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Correct you are. I worked for an auction company for about 5 years and still like to go to a few myself to see old friends and we handled a lot of estates. We didn't run across many cues but I can tell you anything we didn't know the value of we researched to get at least an idea of what it should bring.

Totally off topic but some of my biggest mistakes there were me and another employee banging at this wooden bench trying to get this item incased in glass unhitched from it having no idea of the value. Ended up getting it off and by the grace of god not damaging it because it ended up bringing 8k. We had a lot of random stuff from estates and the lower normal household stuff got put outside in boxes to sell by the box as some of the auctions were pretty big and we didn't have room for everything inside. A guy that owned an antique shop reamed us for putting a pair of moccasins out in one of the boxes and he also brought them in for us. They ended up going for 1.2k. So yeah, some mistakes happen but it's VERY uncommon.
 
I wonder how many of these companies are his?

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jaetee said:
Look at this listing of his... where he supposedly loaned a pro pool player some money and got this as collateral: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Pro...349?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339bf3dccd

You too, can own that cue... for all of $69 here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MR-Stunning...942?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f371e3e6

What a P.O.S. (The seller, not the cue. These MR cues hit surprisingly good, actually)
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Question to seller about this item:

ME:
Dear bestbathtubfinish,

May I have the name of the pro player who you loaned money on for a $69 Chinese cue? How much did you loan him? $5, $10? What does vintage mean to you anyway? The glue in that thing isn't cured yet.

I guess there's a sucker born every day if you are willing to lie and cheat.
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REPLY:
We have looked you up to see if you had the least bit of pull, clout, or popularity, talent, charisma, or authority... and were are sad to have to be the one to inform you - that you are just about the most unimportant person we have met - to date. I'm sorry, but no one here really cares what a piss ant like you thinks.
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I have to admit that's some funny shit. He has me pegged exactly! :)
 
Jaetee, I have also seen a couple of those Wengzhend, (sp), cues and you are correct. They are a well built cue and play nicely for the money.

One of the guys who worked the old hall bought a player and break cue. He is still using them and that has been a few years now.

Oh, my response from Bath Tub Boy.

Dear twostep30,

We checked out your "items for sale." Perhaps you would experience more success if you spent less time cursing, and harassing other members Sherlock. Try getting a life. You can't play pool anyway. If you think you can, then put your money where your big mouth is punk.

- bestbathtubfinish

Cursing, Ha. I abbreviated FK.

He must know me from the Forums, cause he got one thing right, I don't play very well. Or at least he thinks so. I've been known to find the odd pocket or 2.
 
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King of all Scumbags

This one http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNKNOWN-BILL...p2047675.l2557 he sold for $450 is a Karella a step up from the J & J. I saw these on eBay for about $100 as well. Not sure how he went about 'de-branding' on this one as Karella has their name on the forearm under clear coat unless he sanded it down and then re-clear coated it. Appears somebody took hook.

This is crazy. I know this because I replaced the J & J sold to said scumbag that was the Christmas gift for my Son with a 4 pt Karella with white brown spec wrap just like it from eBay and seller I bought from s few other Karellas he was blowing out.

He takes ID off cues. He snags a cheap eBay shaft with matching solid or ringed collar for $35-$40 and claims 'Estate Find' but knows nothing about the cue but it's Vintage, straight and beautiful a real find rolls them for ridiculous price knowing it's a fraud.

Nothing really eBay will do I have spoke with them after seeing above post. It's up to buyer to ask seller questions and make the decisions after seller lays on the dishonest BS because he ' knows nothing about pool cues' and it is buyers responsibility to make wise decisions. Sad 'potty mouth' slimy MF this tub refinisher. Bet he is really enjoying all the AZ inquires.

EDIT: I do not post much here but do visit regularly and thought this should be addressed. Perhaps just to help any Newbs or trusting members that have a thick wallet and like the thrill of the hunt . Also, I must clarify. I have NO problem with any person making a 'find' and turning for a profit if they are not misrepresenting and making up 'tall stories and lies' of said find to increase profit and de-fraud unsuspecting buyer.

-Kat
 
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Blue Hog ridr said:
Jaetee, I have also seen a couple of those Wengzhend, (sp), cues and you are correct. They are a well built cue and play nicely for the money.

One of the guys who worked the old hall bought a player and break cue. He is still using them and that has been a few years now.

Oh, my response from Bath Tub Boy.

Dear twostep30,

We checked out your "items for sale." Perhaps you would experience more success if you spent less time cursing, and harassing other members Sherlock. Try getting a life. You can't play pool anyway. If you think you can, then put your money where your big mouth is punk.

- bestbathtubfinish

Cursing, Ha. I abbreviated FK.

He must know me from the Forums, cause he got one thing right, I don't play very well. Or at least he thinks so. I've been known to find the odd pocket or 2.
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Nice response! At least the collective here is making his life interesting. If he is indeed a member here, he's probably sporting wood when reading all of this...

I also have one of those MR cues, but mine has 3/8 x 10 joint and did not come with a logo. I bought it for the shafts more than anything else, which I then had turned down and re-tapered. I've been offered as much as $250 for it, but since all of his newer ones have 3/8 x 11 pin I've held onto that cue and told those interested to go to ebay and get one of their own.

I have flipped cues, camera gear, stereo equipment and other things on ebay, but I've done so with a clean conscience. Seldom is it ever a straight up "flip" though, as there is usually money or extra effort put out by me to repair or at least thoroughly test the item so I can give very informed information. Sometimes (usually) I come out ahead and occasionally I lose.

In the end, I think it is the seller's responsibility to know exactly what they are selling and offer as much disclosure to the item's history as possible, short of telling someone what they paid for the item. There's nothing wrong with finding something in a store or from private sale that is underpriced and flipping it. I call that leveraging your knowledge. Frankly, your time and effort should be worth something. There's no shame in making an honest profit.

That said, it's an entirely different thing to buy something inexpensive, then lying about where it came from and claiming ignorance of the subject, and then go about making a killing off of it only because of the misrepresentation. There's gotta be a special place in hell for people like that.
 
Floppage said:
Is there an SOP on these kinds of things? Does someone post a "can you verify this isn't a $50 cue from J&J? question to the questions section?
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Last I knew, the seller has the option whether to show the questions and answers on the listing. You can certainly ask, but it won't necessarily show up.
 
He has several auctions going, selling Balabushka Style cues.

I might hesitate sending money to a person that calls himself, Meepmeeper.
 
I asked him about this cue and this is what he said, "Dear wandysperou,

cue is straight - cue maker - Danny Wilson California

- bestbathtubfinish
 
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