Unable to See Center Ball

noMoreSchon said:
Wouldn't an easier way to say this, would be find the closest part of the cue ball to the object you are aiming, and that would be the center? Because that is what I was taught. The center of the ball, is always least amount of distance from the aim point.
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I first heard that described as diametrically opposite.
A diameter by definition would need to be measured through the ball center.
A method I learned concerning aligning the cue, the vision center and the ball center involves the reflective surface of the cue ball.
If all are aligned, the cue shaft is mirrored in the cue ball, and the reflection is in line with the shaft.
 
Stopped by the clubhouse at my apartment complex earlier and hit a few balls on the table they have.

I normally look at the OB when getting down on the shot, but today decided to look at the CB instead while getting down. It felt like I was more in line and not missing as much.

Could it be when I am looking at the OB, my alignment gets pulled off slightly on the way down?
 
Gotta video record yourself shooting . The only way to find out for sure .
Pay attention to your grip too. You might be tensing before contact .
 
JoeyInCali said:
Gotta video record yourself shooting . The only way to find out for sure .
Pay attention to your grip too. You might be tensing before contact .
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Funny I actually went to the pool hall on my lunch break last Monday and went to record myself. Got home to review and found out I accidentally turned on the front facing camera which was pointing away from me. So it's just 20 minutes of the side of my cue case.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Stopped by the clubhouse at my apartment complex earlier and hit a few balls on the table they have.

I normally look at the OB when getting down on the shot, but today decided to look at the CB instead while getting down. It felt like I was more in line and not missing as much.

Could it be when I am looking at the OB, my alignment gets pulled off slightly on the way down?
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Yes.
 
Sitting at my desk and I see a quarter and a flat head screwdriver, and suddenly got an idea.

I held the screwdriver by the shank (yes I googled what it was called) as if it were the shaft of my cue. Then got down into my stance using the quarter as a CB.

Sure enough, time after time, the tip of the screwdriver was pointing to the right of the quarter. This was much easier to see since the quarter is flat and not spherical.

So definitely think I found the issue.
 
I have been little off from playing lately and now i got snooker tournament in our city next weekend.
So little over year since i practice it. I had a lot of issues.
Stroke, aiming, speed and hitting without sidespin. Now i have been practicing 3 sessions and all but speed got fixed just by where to look when go down.
I did think about this thread and what i do when go down.

I try write it here even it is hard to describe....

All my shots I shoot cueball towards target. Short distance shots i watch the (aiming)line between OB and cueball. Then i try drop into that line watching cueball. Then i look that line going through ob. So basically i just choose line and ob happens to be on the way of that line. Then i try feel if i make ball(hamb part). Then i shoot and watch my aiming line or my cue hitting straight to cueball. I see also ob but i don´t look it.
Longer distance and thin cuts i choose my line from far(maybe from wall or something). Then try drop on that line and make everything like on short shots.
I feel this making this way is naturally straighter stroke.
Also i shoot balls straight in without object ball if i have problems. Choosing exact target from pocket. Then i can fully focus to aiming line and do i get unwanted spin. and keeping my form on stroke. It is so much easier to keep still and deliver without worrying object ball. When i feel i keep still and stroke good i go straight in shots. Then half ball drills.

btw made almost 147 from drill on third day. first day i could not make 80.
 
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BeiberLvr said:
Sitting at my desk and I see a quarter and a flat head screwdriver, and suddenly got an idea.

I held the screwdriver by the shank (yes I googled what it was called) as if it were the shaft of my cue. Then got down into my stance using the quarter as a CB.

Sure enough, time after time, the tip of the screwdriver was pointing to the right of the quarter. This was much easier to see since the quarter is flat and not spherical.

So definitely think I found the issue.
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You may have to tweak where you place your left foot if you shoot right handed
 

instructors comments on this help for vision center impared students

when you line up for the shot put the cue stick up close to parallel ( not close to your face)to your face you should now see 2 cue sticks and keep the image BETWEEN the two imaginary sticks DO NOT MOVE YOUR HEAD AND COME STRAIGHT DOWN ON THAT LINE that should keep you on your visual center your...
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this may or not be helpfull to some
 
for me i found i needed to also step towards the object ball instead of stepping more parrallel to the shot line to help fix being LEFT of the shot line when down on the shot
FOR YOU IT MAY BE OPPOSITE
 
BeiberLvr said:
Funny I actually went to the pool hall on my lunch break last Monday and went to record myself. Got home to review and found out I accidentally turned on the front facing camera which was pointing away from me. So it's just 20 minutes of the side of my cue case.
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what did you learn about your case....😂😂😂
couldnt resist
 
BeiberLvr said:
Sitting at my desk and I see a quarter and a flat head screwdriver, and suddenly got an idea.

I held the screwdriver by the shank (yes I googled what it was called) as if it were the shaft of my cue. Then got down into my stance using the quarter as a CB.

Sure enough, time after time, the tip of the screwdriver was pointing to the right of the quarter. This was much easier to see since the quarter is flat and not spherical.

So definitely think I found the issue.
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what issue did you find?
 
bbb said:
what issue did you find?
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That when I get down on the shot while looking at the object ball, the tip of my cue is always aimed to the right of the cueball.

But if I focus on the cueball while getting down, my alignment is more accurate.
 
When you hit straight in stopshots
if you get unintentional spin
is it consistent and if so which way
Also if you miss are you missing right or left of the aiming target?
 
I'd have to check next time I practice.

I do know that when I try the drill where you shoot the CB to the short rail to have it come back to you. It always goes to the right.

I want to try it again but while looking at the CB as I get into my stance.
 
BeiberLvr said:
I'd have to check next time I practice.

I do know that when I try the drill where you shoot the CB to the short rail to have it come back to you. It always goes to the right.

I want to try it again but while looking at the CB as I get into my stance.
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A few years ago, I had that same trouble. The cueball veered to the left ever so slightly....even going down full table the whole length. Not much, mind you, but not straight as a bullet like Eddie Taylor and some of those old timers could do it.
I met a fantastic instructor for some specialized pool training and he showed me how to slide the bridge hand into the shot on the table bed from the side for lining up and it eliminated that trouble immediately. (it's a visual thing that has to do with placing your eyes in the right spot)
If there are obstructing balls laying around you have to watch out so you don't foul by touching another ball when doing this.
Give it about an hour in rehearsal and see what happens. If it doesn't work for you, then dump the idea. (I think it might help though)
Good wishes to you and all that.
(y)
 
BeiberLvr said:
I'd have to check next time I practice.

I do know that when I try the drill where you shoot the CB to the short rail to have it come back to you. It always goes to the right.

I want to try it again but while looking at the CB as I get into my stance.
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Could be your stick isn’t directly beneath your “vision center”, but slightly to the left. If so, moving your elbow slightly to the right might be worth a try.

pj
chgo
 
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