Universal Smart Shaft

Man!!! I'm just now making plans to get the red and blue I-shafts and possibly the x-shaft and now there's another one!?!?! (sigh) Well, does it come as a partial? :p Man I'm going to be broke doing this! :D
 
shoutout33 said:
Man!!! I'm just now making plans to get the red and blue I-shafts and possibly the x-shaft and now there's another one!?!?! (sigh) Well, does it come as a partial? :p Man I'm going to be broke doing this! :D
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It's a universal joint system. The ads show a large insert/ring setup that the insert for your shaft screws into.

Terry
 
It's a universal joint system. The ads show a large insert/ring setup that the insert for your shaft screws into.
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Tbeaux,

Thanks for the imput, but I did notice the joint system. I want to know about the partial because if I wanted to send it to a cue maker to match my cue (you know, with pretty rings and all... :p) Could it be done? Who makes these for Mr. Stroud in the first place? Is there someone you can call directly about this?
 
shoutout33 said:
Tbeaux,

Thanks for the imput, but I did notice the joint system. I want to know about the partial because if I wanted to send it to a cue maker to match my cue (you know, with pretty rings and all... :p) Could it be done? Who makes these for Mr. Stroud in the first place? Is there someone you can call directly about this?
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I think that you'll have to contact "Cue and Case". Maybe anybody who is a Fury (edit:it's Lucasi) dealer?

Terry
 
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It's amazing how far pool products have come in the last decade. "Back in the day" when I played pool, everyone just used the shaft that came with their cue. Mike Gulyassy was the local cue repair guy that just happened to be a pretty sporty pool player, everyone used a red circle cue ball & paid no attention to the rest of the balls, and the only gadget anyone had in their pool case was a tip scuffer.... sheesh, nowadays you gotta be a rocket scientist to figure out all this stuff! (there was also no DCC). Getting back into the pool scene has actually made me feel kinda stupid. :rolleyes:

p.s.... they also used to spot balls in 9 ball...scratch on the break...pocketed balls spotted. (I almost forgot about that.) damn old age!
 
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Timberly said:
It's amazing how far pool products have come in the last decade. "Back in the day" when I played pool, everyone just used the shaft that came with their cue. Mike Gulyassy was the local cue repair guy that just happened to be a pretty sporty pool player, everyone used a red circle cue ball & paid no attention to the rest of the balls, and the only gadget anyone had in their pool case was a tip scuffer.... sheesh, nowadays you gotta be a rocket scientist to figure out all this stuff! (there was also no DCC). Getting back into the pool scene has actually made me feel kinda stupid. :rolleyes:

p.s.... they also used to spot balls in 9 ball...scratch on the break...pocketed balls spotted. (I almost forgot about that.) damn old age!
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Yep yep,I remember those things except with me there was no scuffer or red circle. Sandpaper and the cueball was white and came with the rest of the grimey balls. You must be a whippersnapper!

Terry
 
Tbeaux said:
Yep yep,I remember those things except with me there was no scuffer or red circle. Sandpaper and the cueball was white and came with the rest of the grimey balls. You must be a whippersnapper!

Terry
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You and Timberly are both youngsters, because you didn't play with clay balls. Pool balls . . . . ;) :p
 
Keep Changing shafts.

Have you ever wondered why your game sucks. Keep changing those shafts. I and everyone else out there loves the guys that have to keep expirimenting. Youll never get good with the different cue shafts you keep putting on. The only shaft i use are the ones the cue maker sends with his cue. Hoppe, Lassiter, The Miz and all the great legends never had these laminated shafts and id say they are laffin at the whole thing. Thats only my opinion. Just ask a cue maker if he will make a his cue and recomend a predator or smart shaft. I dont think they wil agree with your choice. I know all the pros. BLAH BLAH BLAH. How many arent using the predator, the I shaft or the smart shaft. Just as many or more. Its all hype. Just my opinion.

Pat
 
obrien714 said:
Have you ever wondered why your game sucks. Keep changing those shafts. I and everyone else out there loves the guys that have to keep expirimenting. Youll never get good with the different cue shafts you keep putting on. The only shaft i use are the ones the cue maker sends with his cue. Hoppe, Lassiter, The Miz and all the great legends never had these laminated shafts and id say they are laffin at the whole thing. Thats only my opinion. Just ask a cue maker if he will make a his cue and recomend a predator or smart shaft. I dont think they wil agree with your choice. I know all the pros. BLAH BLAH BLAH. How many arent using the predator, the I shaft or the smart shaft. Just as many or more. Its all hype. Just my opinion.

Pat
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I think it's reasonable to assume that if these choices were offered back then, that the great players would have tried them also. Whether or not they would have stuck with them, who knows? But, we can see from today's players that they are willing to try them. Many of them have not switched to the low squirt technology and other technology. Many have. So, it's pure guesswork what the past masters would or wouldn't have done.

What we do know is that they were all particular in their cues. They had favorites, so the old "they could play with a broomstick" is hogwash. Sure they could play with whatever, but they found favorite parameters. They just didn't have as many parameters to choose. They chose tips, ferrules, joints, balance points, such modern things compared to the great players who used single piece cues with the soft tip of the era.

I notice you have a Sledge Hammer. Wouldn't you think past great 9-ball Champions must be "laffin" at the whole thing? Mizerak didn't use a Sledge Hammer when he won the World 9-ball Championship in the early 80's. Neither did Sigel, Varner, Strickland, Crane, Reid... Get my point? They didn't have the option, so we can only speculate whether they would have or wouldn't have. Given today's players, there's a good chance they would have.

Fred
 
drivermaker said:
I think you mean Lucasi....
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Umm...yep ....thanks for the correction DM, I keep getting those two overseas production cues mixed up. :) Doesn't help that the "cue and case" website has been down for at least a year.

Terry
 
ScottR said:
You and Timberly are both youngsters, because you didn't play with clay balls. Pool balls . . . . ;) :p
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Clay balls....well that means you had fire and the wheel. :D Wonder if there are any of the REALLY OLD TIMERS who played with ivory balls still around? :eek:

Terry
 
*tap tap tap*

Well put, Fred. Obrien714, it sounds like you've got a chip on your shoulder. Oh, and my game doesn't suck.

Besides, what do you care what others play with or try out? I've talked to several pros and a buddy who used to work for Padgett and they're totally sold on Predator shafts. They're not sponsored yet they remain loyal -- that to me speaks more than your ignorant opinion that seems to resist anything new or different.

I'm not claiming this Smart Shaft will improve my game. In fact, most of the "hype" around it are claims to increase *feel* -- squirt seems a secondary consideration (hence why there is a regular squirt option). So just simmah down now, ya hear?

Fred Agnir said:
I think it's reasonable to assume that if these choices were offered back then, that the great players would have tried them also. Whether or not they would have stuck with them, who knows? But, we can see from today's players that they are willing to try them. Many of them have not switched to the low squirt technology and other technology. Many have. So, it's pure guesswork what the past masters would or wouldn't have done.

What we do know is that they were all particular in their cues. They had favorites, so the old "they could play with a broomstick" is hogwash. Sure they could play with whatever, but they found favorite parameters. They just didn't have as many parameters to choose. They chose tips, ferrules, joints, balance points, such modern things compared to the great players who used single piece cues with the soft tip of the era.

I notice you have a Sledge Hammer. Wouldn't you think past great 9-ball Champions must be "laffin" at the whole thing? Mizerak didn't use a Sledge Hammer when he won the World 9-ball Championship in the early 80's. Neither did Sigel, Varner, Strickland, Crane, Reid... Get my point? They didn't have the option, so we can only speculate whether they would have or wouldn't have. Given today's players, there's a good chance they would have.

Fred
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I may be the least experienced pool player in this discussion but I have beena serious athlete for almost all of my 48 years and will offer my $0.02 from the perspective of a few sports I have played over time.

BASEBALL: If the same logic had been used catchers would still be using the old cage masks instead of helmets. Hard maple bats would not be on the scene, in fact the average bat weighed around 45 ozs. 2 generations ago and the ball was the same size and the consistency of a softball not much before that.

SOFTBALL: If the same logic were used bats wouldn't be carbon fiber, graphite, porcelain, cryogenicly cooled, or gas filled, they would be wood.

GOLF: Forget graphite, aluminum, and titanium, can you say persimmin?

TENNIS: Remember wood and catgut.

FOOTBALL: Before modern suspension helmets there were hard plastic helmets, and before that leather, and before that...nothing. Pads? Only wimps need pads.

HOCKEY: As a child it was considered unmanly to play in the NHL and have a single original tooth left. Most goalies didn't even wear the Jason masks.

All of these innovations were viewed by some as snake oil and hype but today nobody could be competitive, or safe, without using them.

In the meantime pool has been largely frozen in time. This amazes me considering the fact that the rules for equiptment are so wide open compared to other sports.

LWW
 
couldn't comment on the smart shaft without trying one myself,,,got mine in from Cue & Case yesterday,,,fit and finish was fine,,,tip was harder than I like, so I worked on it a little,,,shot for about 2 hours,,,it did everything I asked of it,,,shot in a local tournament last night, came in 3rd (normal for me),,,really like the idea of the universal inserts to fit whatever cue butt you prefer to use

plan to shoot in another local tourney tonight and Sat nite,,,,will keep shooting with it and will post my honest opinion again soon,,,,,,,,,,jflan
 
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