Unknown Player Beat Bucktooth For $10,000

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About 2 week ago this asian guy come into California Billiard and give Bucktooth the 5 7 8 9 and the breaks. I thought is easy money for Bucktooth since he supposed to be good player, but I guess he too old now. The other player shoot good and could run out but Bucktooth could not even make the money balls 5 inches straight into the pocket. Bucktooth can not even run more than 2-3 balls. He run maybe 2 balls and then miss easy shot even beginner can make. I side bet on Bucktooth and lose $400 myself cause Bucktooth is blind and helpless.

I read on other message board saying Bucktooth lose 8,000 but I think is wrong he lose about 10,000 :

On the weekend of August 17th, I stopped in at California Billiards in Mountain View to check out their One-Pocket tournament and saw some Vietnamese(?) kid giving Bucktooth the 5, 7, 8, 9 and the breaks playing 9-Ball for $500 a game! Yeah, I was a little shocked too.

I figured that just about ANYONE who could pick up a cue could win with that spot, but Bucktooth DOGGED so may shots it was just sickening!

Bucktooth couldn't even run 3 balls in a row! He missed the 5 straight in the side pocket, missed the 4 ball straight in like 5 or 6 times, missed the 7, missed the 8... it was just ridiculous.

Of course this kid played pretty phenomenal too. Whenever Bucktooth missed, the kid ran out -- then again, when you're giving up weight like that, you'd better run out. But it was just a total massacre.

And if that wasn't enough, the kid adjusted the game briefly, giving Bucktooth the 4, 7, 8, 9 and the breaks -- where Bucktooth BARELY won maybe 1-2 games. Then they re-adjusted back to the 5, 7, 8, 9 and the breaks. It was sad really. Bucktooth had no chance.

This whole fiasco went on for about 6-7 hours, and ended with Bucktooth losing about $8000!

I came back the next day to see if anything else was going on and Bucktooth was back there waiting to play the kid again, saying he had brought $50,000. Of course the kid wasn't there... But I had some time to kill, so I figured I'd wait a little bit and see if anything materialized.

Finally, after a few hours the kid shows up again. Bucktooth wanted to play some One-Pocket this time, but the kid only wanted to play some more 9-Ball the same way as before -- giving Bucktooth the 5, 7, 8, 9 and the breaks. No deal though. I don't think Bucktooth wanted any more of that game after what happened.

But what I would really like to know is, who the hell was that kid??? Someone said he looked Vietnamese, or he was Vietnamese (can't quite recall their exact words), but perhaps he could be some unknown from the Philippines...

Any thoughts?
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Unknown player supposed to be from East Coast but who is his name? If he come back and play other player like that I will bet again but not bet on Bucktooth. :mad:




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Sergei Kharkov
 
I'm shocked! I used to watch the Tooth play and I was always pretty impressed. I guess age and all those late nights of gambling finally caught up to him. There will be a rush of players coming to cash in! I'd still be leary, though, because Tooie may have an ace up his sleeve.
 
hondo said:
Is it possible the real money lost was
on the sidelines?
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Hondo, why are you insuniating that?:D
Kinda sad though when dumping happens in pool.
I doubt if it happened here as the kid came back and did not fall into a 1-hole game with Tooth.
 
It was just a thought,JC. Iwasn't there.
Is it possible the sideline suckers weren't
there the next day? I'm just asking, not
accusing; I don't know these people.
I've seen a lot of funny business in
my years.
 
That's the first thing that popped into my mind Hondo. I guess I am just a cynic and have lost confidence in my fellow man. LOL
Jake---trust no one but the stupid monkey in the mirror.
 
Originally posted by Hondo:
Is it possible the real money lost was on the sidelines?
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Yes real money was lost,,, mine money. :(

Is it possible the sideline suckers weren't there the next day?
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I see the next day where asian player and Bucktooth can not make a game. Bucktooth want change to 1-Pocket and asian player still want more 9-Ball.
I don't know these people. I've seen a lot of funny business in my years.
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I very sure no "funny business" going on cause Bucktooth was not betting on the side and when I see him play years before he always bets on the side. I do not know anyone who willingly lose 10,000. Do you?








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Sergei Kharkov
 
Well doesn't that sound like you've been scammed!? If he was so confident about winning then why didn't he bet on the side!?

By the sounds of things I think they both spit your money!

I wasn't there but have a think about it?

Craig
 
I, for one, don't think that Bucktooth intended to lose against that Oriental kid. I even saw the guy who came in with Bucktooth paying out (losing) side bets. So it might be fair to assume that Bucktooth was "betting on the rail", through him, in that manner.

Besides, I don't think that there was more than $1200 in side action, which pales in comparison to being down $8000 (yes, 8 not 10) at $500 a game.

But the real thing that got my attention was how physically bad Bucktooth's game was. When he broke he didn't make a ball and barley scattered the rack. The way he got down over the balls. The way he shot (and missed). There just wasn't the physical power, posture, or accuracy that, say, his younger opponent had.

And Bucktooth really looked to be showing signs of his age, the way he moved about the table. Then again, he has got to be somewhere in his mid 70's by now... probably why he wanted to play One-Pocket the following day.


R.


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Oh I don't know, but it does seem a little strange that this buck tooth fella doesn't bet on his self for the first time ever, then gets thumped. I take it that bucktooth had a backer, sure he didn't throw the game and split the cash with the asian?

Who is this bucktooth fella anyway, should I know him?
 
Number1 wrote:
...it does seem a little strange that this buck tooth fella doesn't bet on his self for the first time ever, then gets thumped. I take it that bucktooth had a backer...
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I'm sorry if you misunderstood my post. Bucktooth did not have a backer. He was betting with his (Bucktooth's) own money, which he usually has lots of. The guy who came in with Bucktooth was betting on the side separately.


R.
 
Oh ok

It seems an aweful lot of money to lose if the guy can't shoot for shit!?

Craig
 
Sounds like the Tooth and the kid cut some rail-birds up. What kind of stranger is going to waltz in and give a legend that kind of weight, for that much money, and let that person have an opportunity to miss easy straight-ins? It's quite obvious it was a scam.
 
I agree pro, I wouldn't give that spot to a goose. By the sounds of the guy who started the thread Im not suprised!

Wish I had seen it lol!
 
For those of you who don't know him, Bucktooth aka Richard Cook, is probably one of the most successful hustlers of pool currently living. I have personally watched him play and hustle pool. He did both very well. I've never seen him play anyone even, i.e., he always manages to get a handicap. I watched him play Grady Mathews one pocket and Bucktooth won. Of course Tooth got a spot, I think it was something like he had to make three balls and Grady had to make 5 or something crazy like that. I watched him play a local kid one pocket for 3 dollars a game. The kid was not that good, and like I said, Tooth has to have a spot, so the kid has to make 9 and Tooth only has to make 6 but Tooth has to play one-handed. Tooth could have given the kid the spot and still beaten him to death because he was the best one-handed player I've ever seen. The main point I want to make here is, the Tooth plays as hard for 3 dollars a game as he does for $10,000.

I wasn't there but something just doesn't smell right here. Maybe Bucktooth is getting too old (I would guess his age at just under 70) but I know that he's not dumb, he loves money and he has a lot of it. You do the math.
 
Aw it's too bad there is such a thing as the internet. Poor Bucktooth (only 62) evidently puts on a great show and now has his sucker chomping at the bit and here you go and blow it all.

Somewhere, somebody is now ready to give Bucktooth the good old orange crush, and you spoiled it all.

Well, maybe that guy won't read any of this.

Bucktooth's website tells it all. An amazing list of victim's. People who one would think were smarter than that. But ego and greed must have gotten in the way of their common sense.

Maybe it is true that Bucktooth is too old and has some mysterious malady that is sapping his strength, his shooting ability and his common sense and now is the time to take him on.

Who is the mysterious Asian? How can someone that good be not known by someone? Any pictures?

Sounds like the making of a good book followed by the movie.

Jake
 
Sergei, I hope I'm wrong. Be very careful
betting around people you don't know
& pretty careful around people you do
know. The biggest part of a scam is
making it appear there is easy money to
be made.
 
Jake,

Don't feel sorry for Bucktooth, he's got plenty of money and $10,000 probably wouldn't put a dent in it. While I have a great deal of respect for his abilities, I don't agree with his methods. It is my opinion that what he does is just as bad as stealing. He could play a lot of the players he's robbed in the past heads up instead of getting the outrageous spots he's gotten. And, don't forget, this is just my opinion. He really could be getting old and feeble and can't make a shot 5" from the side pocket. He's got tons of cash just waiting for the right player to come and get it. There, did I do anything to repair the damage? Poor Bucktooth!
 
I saw Bucktooth make a mess of Scott Frost. I think Scott is a great one pocket player but Tooth doesnt play pool. HE GAMBLES! He knows what he is doing. Forget all that bluster but listen to him talk. Watch how he moves. He motivates people and he makes people fall into traps they cant get out of. Most pool players are out of their depth when they deal with him, If he didnt get stuck in a pool hall he might have been a tough politician like a Huey Long. I am not saying I favor this kind of personality as I am more for an Efren type. Just play your best. But do not ever underestimate this man.
 
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