Unreal stroke shots

[Hal]

Shoot into the rail a lot (before the object ball) and hit it very hard. Counting the rail beside the object ball, I can just barely hit 5 rails. A fast table helps also. It takes LEFT english...not right. Getting to the 6th rail may be stretching it a bit. I discovered this shot while shooting this same shot but with a ball on each end rail. I stroked it so good a few times that I hit 5 rails.

 

[sjm]

Shoot into the rail a lot (before the object ball) and hit it very hard. Counting the rail beside the object ball, I can just barely hit 5 rails. A fast table helps also. It takes LEFT english...not right.

Left? Wow, that means it's gonna have reverse spin when it hits the long rail by the top corner. OK, I'll try it, Vonn, and thanks for the advice. Can't wait!

 

[Hal]

Left? Wow, that means it's gonna have reverse spin when it hits the long rail by the top corner. OK, I'll try it, Vonn, and thanks for the advice. Can't wait!

Yes I see what you mean. Actually I've never tried it with right. I just shoot it the same way as if I'm trying to get shape on a ball on the opposite end rail, only a lot harder.

 

[Celtic]

Celtic, that's a shot I can do, and yes it takes a powerful stroke. But a shot that I've seen Mike Massey do is one I have far more trouble with.

In the position below, the game is one-pocket and you need both balls to win. Pocketing the one ball (which sits by your pocket) will get you to 7 - 7, but the trick is to get the shape on the two into that same pocket. Below, I show how Massey did it. Left hand draw aiming a little bit into the short rail, and power, power, and more power.

Wow, that is a wild shot, I HAVE to try that now. Simply cheat the pocket and use a simply stupic amount of bottom left, tons and tons of left, that shot owns, I can imagine it is a tough one.

As for your shot Vonn, I cannot fathom it being made with left siding, maybe with right but it is killing off every rail it is hitting past the first if it has left.

 

[DeadStrokeMan]

See if you know anyone that can shoot a spot shot from behind the headstring and draw the cueball past the side pocket like this:

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The closest I came was scratching in the side.

I can pot the ball and beat the scratch everytime - but noWay can I go past the 1st spot "back and forth". Personally - I don't think the shot can occur as you've shown it in the snapShot.

The angle is simply too great to overcome without some insane MASSE applied to it.

 

[DeadStrokeMan]

Now keep in mind, I didn't do this...a buddy of mine did, his name is Dan "Fly boy" McKinney, and I nicknamed him "Fly boy"...just to mess with him. Super nice guy and played a pretty darn sporty game of pool. He used to play a lot of snooker at Maxi's back in Fulton, MS evidently...and when he was shooting alot at Southern Billiards, I would always watch him play. Anyway here is the shot:

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This shot may not seem that spectacular to many of you...but to me at the time it was unreal. Yes the cue ball is sitting off the table on top of the rail. It took him about 10 tries to make it...but then he made it a couple of times in a row...but the real neat part...it was on an old 5x10 Brunswick Gold Crown snooker table from the 1960s. Man those pockets are tight...and I recall how wonderful that table plays golf.

Anyway, just wanted to share.

Shorty

Practiced this shot for many-many years. I'm better with the CB on the cloth, but I can pull it off with the CB on the rail as well. Since I'm more about "run-out", I practice this shot with CB on the cloth every day. Its an important to make ...I love it when a safety play gives me this shot - DO IT - I DARE YA - LOL

 

[bruin70]

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This is another variation of the shot above. Of course one pocket does not apply. I can come close but cannot get all the way to the last rail

this stroke has been diagrammed using left english off the first two rails, and then reverse english off the last three rails. how is this possible?....

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[DeadStrokeMan]

Well I know you're wanting pool shots, and a billiard table is different but, these are amazing. Some of you I'm sure have seen this, but for those who haven't..........

http://caromtv.com/videos/preview_sayginer.wmv

This guy has a steeroke!
Some of the things he does seem impossible.

~DC

Thats amazing stuff.

 

[DeadStrokeMan]

Here's a fun one to do - the extreme lower right:

 

[mjantti]

not unreal

Ok, I don't have any unreal stroke shots, just a couple of shots that require A or B level stroke. Not really difficult but not for beginners.

First one, cueball on foot/head spot, object ball on center spot. Shoot the ball into corner and draw enough to hit "before" the side pocket with the cueball. Pretty easy but will drive intermediate players nuts !

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Another one. Object ball on foot spot, cueball on the first diamond between the foot short rail and the object ball. Shoot the object ball into far right/left corner and draw the cueball 3 rails into the other far corner. This is more difficult than the one above but by no means impossible.

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[bruin70]

Ok, I don't have any unreal stroke shots, just a couple of shots that require A or B level stroke. Not really difficult but not for beginners.

First one, cueball on foot/head spot, object ball on center spot. Shoot the ball into corner and draw enough to hit "before" the side pocket with the cueball. Pretty easy but will drive intermediate players nuts !

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Another one. Object ball on foot spot, cueball on the first diamond between the foot short rail and the object ball. Shoot the object ball into far right/left corner and draw the cueball 3 rails into the other far corner. This is more difficult than the one above but by no means impossible.

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i understand your first shot but i'm not getting it on the wei table....i'm getting a previous shot

 

[mjantti]

i understand your first shot but i'm not getting it on the wei table....i'm getting a previous shot

The first shot should be like this:
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The second shot is correct...

 

[Rod]

I am sure most of us have seen a shot or two that tests a person's stroke, the type of shot that takes a hugely powerful stroke. Here is one I have seen one of the top players in Calgary manage that I have never been able to stroke on a 4 1/2 X 9 and make. It takes a tremendous amount of stroke and there is likely not 5 people in the city that can make that shot I would say with any regularity at all.

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I dont quite know how to paste the actual picture, if anyone else does by all means that would be cool.

Any other shots you have seen that few people in the world have the stroke to pull off?

I make this shot on a 9 footer or bar box. They can't be slow tables. The c/b is towards the center of the table by 3 or 4 inches. Sometimes it bends so much it goes in the side pocket or past it.

Rod

 

[Rod]

See if you know anyone that can shoot a spot shot from behind the headstring and draw the cueball past the side pocket like this:

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The closest I came was scratching in the side.

I've done it many times, the first diamond past the side is as far as I've done it. I'm jacked up and almost frozen to the side rail. Now on some tables and newer cloth' just low side english off the side rail a tad, it bends the ball to the side, maybe past. The first one is slower speed and the second at faster speed.

Rod

 

[Rod]

Try these on for size (9' tables of course )

1) Cue ball is 1/4 - 1/8 inch from object ball:
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2) Cue ball is 1 chalk from rail (straight in shot and no side rail contact):
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-td

There is a variety of those shots including this one. Same type of deal that I can make with good consistency. Here is another. START(
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I have one that's not that difficult to make the shot, looks entertaining though. START(
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I have drawn it and hit before the first diamond before the 9 several times. Like this START(
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Just fun stuff for us kids to do. LOL

Rod

 

[cheesemouse]

Heres another just for funnzzzy's.......fast cloth & clean balls plus a stroke delux are required......you almost have to jack up to full masse to get the cueball to bit out in the center and change direction. Sometimes the 8ball gets back first, makes the nine and leaves the pocket open so the cb can scrath....LOL...bummmer

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[Egg McDogit]

See if you know anyone that can shoot a spot shot from behind the headstring and draw the cueball past the side pocket like this:

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The closest I came was scratching in the side.

A couple old timers were telling us about a proposition shot where a guy did the shot you described - except drew past the bottom side pocket WITHOUT HITTING THE RAIL. They swear they saw it, but I don't see how it's remotely possible. Anyways, a couple of us tried their shot for kicks on a 9' with 860 and no one even got close - couldn't even get past the 3rd diamond up on the rail. If anyone has seen this shot - I would like to know if anyone else has seen this shot - or better yet can do it (I don't see how there's any way it's possible).

Here's a stroke shot...make the one, draw back so the cue ball rebounds off the bottom rail and goes back up and sinks the 2.

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peace
-Egg

 

[bruin70]

A couple old timers were telling us about a proposition shot where a guy did the shot you described - except drew past the bottom side pocket WITHOUT HITTING THE RAIL. They swear they saw it, but I don't see how it's remotely possible.
peace
-Egg

MAN!!! I WANNA SEE THAT ONE!!!! it would have had to take a path something like this. it would require ungodly spin + medium or slow speed on the cb. i'm guessing the only way to achieve that kind of "spin to speed" ratio would be to hit down on the cb like a masse without masseing.

 

[Hal]

MAN!!! I WANNA SEE THAT ONE!!!! it would have had to take a path something like this,,,,personally, i think it's a lot of bull-hooey

Somebody's gonna have to take my money on this one. I'll give ya 35 tries for $600.00 (with a regulation cue ball and object ball)

 

[bruin70]

Somebody's gonna have to take my money on this one. I'll give ya 35 tries for $600.00 (with a regulation cue ball and object ball)

i edited my post. the more i thought about it, IT CAN BE DONE. and i think a good 3 cushion player can do it,,,even on a non billiard table. they're more well versed in dealing with spin:speed ratio on the cb.