UPA's 14.1 event

JAM said:
... In the recent world championship in Europe, there were no American players invited -- NONE. ...
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You may be thinking of the "World Pool Masters." That is not a championship. That is an exhibition event. The promoter is free to invite whom he pleases. I see that last place paid only $1500, and perhaps that kept any Americans from accepting invitations, assuming some were offered.

For the World Championships, there is normally a quota system for how many players each federation or confederation sends not counting ranked players and wild cards. This is set by the WPA possibly in negotiation with the promoter.
 
StevenPWaldon said:
I must assume you're referring to Matchroom Sports' World Pool Masters? When you said "world championships," I assumed you indeed meant the world championships.
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you're prob correct,but of course this event is based on performance at the WPC and the reason no Americans where invited was because no Americans did enough in Manila!

rolleyes:
 
TheOne said:
JAM
If you still belive the IPT selection process wasn't wholey contrived to generate income from all the pro players who missed out then I really am wasting my time on here lol
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You just may be, but not because of me.

TheOne said:
We've been through this a thousand times and we both know the IPT rejected pro players who DID apply on time and they also selected players that hadn't picked up a cue in ten years let alone played a specific game and some who didn't even write a word on their application lol
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Well, the pool players you may be referencing who may have not picked up a cue in 10 years may be BCA Hall of Famers, and they were invited, TheOne, because of their accomplishments in the discipline of pocket billiards.

TheOne said:
The fact is the hypocrosy of some players who where hand picked for the IPT stands out for all to see. I don't recall one IPT player standing up and saying this isn't right, and I'm not playing because I don't beleive in invited tournaments! :rolleyes: Actually they do sometimes but only when they're not invited lol:p
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Do you think a pool player should label him- or herself as a "professional pool player" if they do not play pool for a living or as their profession? I am just curious as to what your opinion is.

JAM
 
Bob Jewett said:
You may be thinking of the "World Pool Masters." That is not a championship. That is an exhibition event. The promoter is free to invite whom he pleases. I see that last place paid only $1500, and perhaps that kept any Americans from accepting invitations, assuming some were offered.

For the World Championships, there is normally a quota system for how many players each federation or confederation sends not counting ranked players and wild cards. This is set by the WPA possibly in negotiation with the promoter.
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Thank you for the clarification.

JAM
 
JAM said:
You just may be, but not because of me.



Well, the pool players you may be referencing who may have not picked up a cue in 10 years may be BCA Hall of Famers, and they were invited, TheOne, because of their accomplishments in the discipline of pocket billiards.



Do you think a pool player should label him- or herself as a "professional pool player" if they do not play pool for a living or as their profession? I am just curious as to what your opinion is.

JAM
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I certainly wasn't referring to the hall of famers, I was referring to amature players who like I said haven't picked up a cue in years.

As for professional its a tough call when a player can't make a living from it. I class myself a bit in between. I work IT contracts to earn money to live well enough but last year I also played played in the Euro Tour full time even though I practised as a part timer at best. Then atfer I save enough cash I quit my job and play full time with no other income. For example I did this for the whole of 2005, and I am 1 month into a 3 month trip now. Afterwards I will go back to the UK and my day job! Similar I guess to pro players who suppliment there income by others means such as selling billiard products, artists, promoters, etc My other source of income just isnt pool related but most pro players don't really survive on pool alone.
 
TheOne said:
I certainly wasn't referring to the hall of famers, I was referring to amature players who like I said haven't picked up a cue in years.

As for professional its a tough call when a player can't make a living from it. I class myself a bit in between. I work IT contracts to earn money to live well enough but last year I also played played in the Euro Tour full time even though I practised as a part timer at best. Then atfer I save enough cash I quit my job and play full time with no other income. For example I did this for the whole of 2005, and I am 1 month into a 3 month trip now. Afterwards I will go back to the UK and my day job! Similar I guess to pro players who suppliment there income by others means such as selling billiard products, artists, promoters, etc My other source of income just isnt pool related but most pro players don't really survive on pool alone.
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Let me share with you what a few of the great ones said 25 years ago.

Mike Massey: We need two separate organizations -- players to form the rules of the game, etiquette, equipment standards, and so on -- suppliers to meet the needs of the players and help promote the game..

Jerry Briesath: We've had some good starts, but we have to iron out these player/promoter rivalries and convice the large corporations and support major tournaments and a professional tour.

Ewa Mataya: By getting involved on an international level. Also, pool organizations in this country should work together to help promote the game.

Terry Bell: Before we have stars in this game, we have to have fans. Building a large base of fans is a top priority.

Harold Simonson: The game needs some heroes. Forget that the image of pool is bad. That's a worn-out myth.

Jeff Carter: It sounds impossible, but if we could get some standards to this game (table, pockets, balls, rules), pool would advance.

Earl Strickland: I would like to see more match play between 10 top players in the country. I think that would be really helpful for the game. I think it needs more prestigious tournaments like Tahoe and more money. I'd like to keep playing and try to win more titles than anyone else in pool, and then I'm on my way!

Professional pool is experiencing some of the same problems as 25 years ago. Not much has changed.

However, Earl did go on to win more titles than anyone else in pool. I wonder if it was worth it to him.

JAM
 
StevenPWaldon said:
How is it that a quote so long dodges so many questions?
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Gee, I did not know there was a question pending. Would you repeat your question, please?

JAM
 
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