As many of you have read in some of the posts, Danny Harriman has gone public with his issues regarding money owed him for past tournaments sanctioned by the UPA. Danny's statements were brought up by himself publicly. Danny has contended that the money is owed him, yet the UPA has done nothing to assist him in getting paid. Danny also has said publicly that the UPA have been hounding him for his $100 membership fee, and that he had a verbal altercation with UPA Rep Frank Alvarez prior to his match with Corey Deuel at the Bicycle Club. Danny Harriman forfeited his match when he broke down his cue and left during mid-match. Danny addressed this issue publicly last week and responded to questions and thanked people for supporting him. I offered to work with Danny, the UPA, and Brady Behrman to come to a viable solution that would bring back a great player to the professional game. I publicly and privately offered to work on Danny's behalf to try to correct this situation. I have even offered to pay Danny's entry fee into the next UPA event in Jacksonville in an attempt to mend fences between Danny and Frank Alvarez. I have spoken to the parties involved,including Frank Alvarez & Brady Behrman. I have publicy and privately asked Danny to contact me to discuss a solution to this matter. Danny has yet to contact me regarding this situation, so I can only go by what he has posted here in regards to this issue.
I would like to say that the people I have talked to were very open about this issue. My reason for doing this was to try to bridge a gap between the UPA, the promoter, and the player. It is a very easy, workable solution which will work out for everybody. My goal is to ensure that Danny gets paid what he is due. Many have gravitated towards Danny's side in the issue, which is great, we should support the player. I'm not on Danny's side, I'm not on The UPA's side, or Brady's... I'm on pool's side. We need to address these issues and correct them much more efficiently than we have in the past, and hopefully we can learn from this incident. It is important, however, that we understand that we have only heard Danny's side of this issue.
In speaking with UPA Representative Frank Alvarez I found him very honest, open, and willing to resolve this issue. I can honestly say that I believe that Frank Alvarez, working on behalf of the UPA, has done everything in his power to resolve this issue with Danny Harriman. If anyone doesn't believe that, ask Frank. He will take your calls, he will answer questions, and I respect him greatly for that.
Danny Harriman Forfeits against Corey Deuel
Danny has said publicly that he did this in order to protest his issues with Frank Alvarez about the $100 membership fee the UPA requires. Though this may be partially the case, it is not the entire story of what happened prior to Danny forfeiting his match. Corey had played safe, Danny had no shot and he basically just fired at the cue ball. Someone in the crowd laughed, Danny didn't like it, and he decided that he had enough stress for one day.
The issue with Danny Harriman's UPA membership was not a new issue. Acording to the UPA, Danny had been represented as a UPA member
because of the monies owed to him - no other reason. Danny Harriman had been asked to take care of it in the past, and had refused to do so. Danny was represented and treated just as if he had paid that membership fee, a fact that he has not brought up. He enjoyed all of the perks that come with UPA membership (seeding, representation) yet he had not paid a dime for it. Apparantly, Tony Robles had also brought this issue to Danny Harriman, as well as Frank Alvarez. Frank Alvarez's version of what happened and why is much different than what has been portrayed in the other threads. Without going into who is telling the truth, and who is not telling the truth, it is safe to say that there was a communication breakdown between Frank Alvarez and Danny Harriman at the Bicycle Club event. Words were exchanged, and a line was drawn in the sand. Without getting into that, I will explain the issues that have already been discussed, and I will try add some clarity to the events.
Monies owed Danny Harriman by Brady Behrman
For problems beyond Brady Behrman's control, he came up approximately $10K short for the event in question. He owed other players money besides Danny. Danny had made this a major issue with the UPA. The UPA worked on Danny's behalf to ensure that Brady would pay Danny Harriman the $2000 that was owed him. According to Brady, he paid Danny Harriman with two $500 money orders. According to Brady, he sent Danny Harriman a PM on this site to ask why he was saying that he never paid him. According to Brady, he owes Danny approximately $800. Brady has publicly and privately acknowledged this debt and has every intention of paying what he owes. It is also important to note that Brady owes other players money, and to my knowledge, I think Danny is the only one close to being paid the enitre amount owed, yet he has been the most vocal in his dissatisfaction.
The UPA was not at fault during this issue. Some fault can be pushed Brady Behrman's way, but understand he can't pay what he doesn't have. He has made every effort to publicly acknowledge several issues where he owes money in relation to several difficulties he has experienced. In every instance, Brady has acknowledge and admitted fault, regret, and a solution to pay what he owes. That's not easy to do provately, nevermind doing it publicly as he has done in this forum and many others. Because of what happened with Brady Behrman's event, The UPA have since changed their policies when dealing with promoters, the specifics of these changes can be found at their web site ( www.upatour.org ). The UPA took it upon themselves to help a non-member (Danny Harriman) and on Danny's behalf worked tirelessly to assist him. In return, they had asked Danny to pay the UPA membership fee, seeing he was enjoying all the benefits of being a UPA member. Danny refused to pay in response to monies owed him by Brady Behrman (according to his own post). At this point it was clear to the UPA that he was using ths issue as a bargaining tool. If Danny Harriman wanted the UPA to assist him in this issue, their is a fee for that. Legal representation costs a lot more than $100, and that is basically what the UPA was doing on Danny Harriman's behalf - for FREE. Danny Harrimn was approached by the UPA at their players meeting in January, and Danny said he would take care of the membership fee but failed to do so. By the time Frank Alvarez confronted Danny Harriman at the Bicycle Club event, it had become an issue with other players that had paid their membership fee. For forfeiting his match, Danny would be barred from competing in the next UPA event. Danny's forfeit was a disppointment to all of his supporting fans, as well as Corey Deuel's fans.
There was a phone conversation between Farnk Alvarez and Danny Harriman in which Danny Harriman basically said he was through with the UPA and he no longer wanted to talk with Frank Alvarez. This is the last correspondence the UPA has had with Danny Harriman.
Monies owed Danny Harriman by Bin Min
According to Danny Harriman's own admission, he waited "A couple of months" before trying to deposit the check. Most checks are good for only 90 days, which was probably the case with the check he recieved from that event. According o Dannys post, he admittedly says he is "unorganized" and lost the copy of the check that bank mailed him. This is not the UPA's fault, and it's not Bin Min's fault at all. When asked to produce the original check, Danny says he sent a copy which Mr. Min did not accept as the original. Mr. Min has no problems paying Danny Harriman the money once the original check is recieved. This is not "the whammy" as Danny Harriman referred to it. This is a business man that requires proof that money is owed before he pays you. The reason for this is: If you waited past the date of the check being valid, he doesn't owe Danny a red cent. Where The irresponsibility or Danny Harriman's admitted "unorganization" becomes the UPA's problem is not clear; yet Frank Alvarez went to bat on behalf of Danny Harriman to make sure he would receive his money. It's a safe bet that if he does not have the original, he won't be receiving money from Bin Min, and its not Mr. Min's fault, or the UPA's. It's Danny Harriman's fault for not depositing the check in a reasonably timely fashion.
In response to Danny's situation, I made an offer with Danny so that we could try to sit all parties down to come to a solution. In doing so, I talked to several people and I am still willing to do that. A player of Danny's ability should play with the best players in the world. In putting personal differences aside and coming to a solution , the following needs to occur.
1) Danny you need to contact me. My offer still stands. I will pay your entry fee to the Jacksonville event and your $100 UPA membership fee - to make this right - no strings attached. In return, you will be an active UPA member and receive all the benefits that come along with that - including tour points
seedings, and representation. All I am asking is that we sit down and handle this as adults.
2) Brady must pay Danny the remainder of what he is owed. Brady says its $800. Danny says he was never paid a dime, yet Frank Alvarez confirmed that Brady has made payments to Danny Harriman. Brady Behrman attempted to contact Danny privately to ask why Danny is saying he hasn't recieved money from him. Danny, you never replied to Brady Behrman.
In closing, I would like to let Danny Harriman know that all of us want this situation corrected. Nobody I have talked to is against Danny Harriman. In speaking with the UPA, there are several ways that this situation will be avoided with in the future. There have also been talks between myself and several tour directors about having an entity set up for the players to use in situations such as this. This would keep situations like this from getting out of hand. It is safe to say Danny that is a very good possibility that the money owed to you can be in your bank account by the end of this week - if you'd just pick up the phone and talk. It's great that everybody is behind you
during your misfortunes, but they also need to know the other side of the story. In situations such as this, it can be very easy to get caught up in a popularity contest instead of what the facts are. I hope that doesn't end up being the case here. The ball is in Danny's court. If he wants a solution, he'll contact me, Frank, or Brady to discuss this issue and resolve it once and for all. Either way, Danny, you win. Feel free to contact me anytime at
(386) 208-0011.
I would like to say that the people I have talked to were very open about this issue. My reason for doing this was to try to bridge a gap between the UPA, the promoter, and the player. It is a very easy, workable solution which will work out for everybody. My goal is to ensure that Danny gets paid what he is due. Many have gravitated towards Danny's side in the issue, which is great, we should support the player. I'm not on Danny's side, I'm not on The UPA's side, or Brady's... I'm on pool's side. We need to address these issues and correct them much more efficiently than we have in the past, and hopefully we can learn from this incident. It is important, however, that we understand that we have only heard Danny's side of this issue.
In speaking with UPA Representative Frank Alvarez I found him very honest, open, and willing to resolve this issue. I can honestly say that I believe that Frank Alvarez, working on behalf of the UPA, has done everything in his power to resolve this issue with Danny Harriman. If anyone doesn't believe that, ask Frank. He will take your calls, he will answer questions, and I respect him greatly for that.
Danny Harriman Forfeits against Corey Deuel
Danny has said publicly that he did this in order to protest his issues with Frank Alvarez about the $100 membership fee the UPA requires. Though this may be partially the case, it is not the entire story of what happened prior to Danny forfeiting his match. Corey had played safe, Danny had no shot and he basically just fired at the cue ball. Someone in the crowd laughed, Danny didn't like it, and he decided that he had enough stress for one day.
The issue with Danny Harriman's UPA membership was not a new issue. Acording to the UPA, Danny had been represented as a UPA member
because of the monies owed to him - no other reason. Danny Harriman had been asked to take care of it in the past, and had refused to do so. Danny was represented and treated just as if he had paid that membership fee, a fact that he has not brought up. He enjoyed all of the perks that come with UPA membership (seeding, representation) yet he had not paid a dime for it. Apparantly, Tony Robles had also brought this issue to Danny Harriman, as well as Frank Alvarez. Frank Alvarez's version of what happened and why is much different than what has been portrayed in the other threads. Without going into who is telling the truth, and who is not telling the truth, it is safe to say that there was a communication breakdown between Frank Alvarez and Danny Harriman at the Bicycle Club event. Words were exchanged, and a line was drawn in the sand. Without getting into that, I will explain the issues that have already been discussed, and I will try add some clarity to the events.
Monies owed Danny Harriman by Brady Behrman
For problems beyond Brady Behrman's control, he came up approximately $10K short for the event in question. He owed other players money besides Danny. Danny had made this a major issue with the UPA. The UPA worked on Danny's behalf to ensure that Brady would pay Danny Harriman the $2000 that was owed him. According to Brady, he paid Danny Harriman with two $500 money orders. According to Brady, he sent Danny Harriman a PM on this site to ask why he was saying that he never paid him. According to Brady, he owes Danny approximately $800. Brady has publicly and privately acknowledged this debt and has every intention of paying what he owes. It is also important to note that Brady owes other players money, and to my knowledge, I think Danny is the only one close to being paid the enitre amount owed, yet he has been the most vocal in his dissatisfaction.
The UPA was not at fault during this issue. Some fault can be pushed Brady Behrman's way, but understand he can't pay what he doesn't have. He has made every effort to publicly acknowledge several issues where he owes money in relation to several difficulties he has experienced. In every instance, Brady has acknowledge and admitted fault, regret, and a solution to pay what he owes. That's not easy to do provately, nevermind doing it publicly as he has done in this forum and many others. Because of what happened with Brady Behrman's event, The UPA have since changed their policies when dealing with promoters, the specifics of these changes can be found at their web site ( www.upatour.org ). The UPA took it upon themselves to help a non-member (Danny Harriman) and on Danny's behalf worked tirelessly to assist him. In return, they had asked Danny to pay the UPA membership fee, seeing he was enjoying all the benefits of being a UPA member. Danny refused to pay in response to monies owed him by Brady Behrman (according to his own post). At this point it was clear to the UPA that he was using ths issue as a bargaining tool. If Danny Harriman wanted the UPA to assist him in this issue, their is a fee for that. Legal representation costs a lot more than $100, and that is basically what the UPA was doing on Danny Harriman's behalf - for FREE. Danny Harrimn was approached by the UPA at their players meeting in January, and Danny said he would take care of the membership fee but failed to do so. By the time Frank Alvarez confronted Danny Harriman at the Bicycle Club event, it had become an issue with other players that had paid their membership fee. For forfeiting his match, Danny would be barred from competing in the next UPA event. Danny's forfeit was a disppointment to all of his supporting fans, as well as Corey Deuel's fans.
There was a phone conversation between Farnk Alvarez and Danny Harriman in which Danny Harriman basically said he was through with the UPA and he no longer wanted to talk with Frank Alvarez. This is the last correspondence the UPA has had with Danny Harriman.
Monies owed Danny Harriman by Bin Min
According to Danny Harriman's own admission, he waited "A couple of months" before trying to deposit the check. Most checks are good for only 90 days, which was probably the case with the check he recieved from that event. According o Dannys post, he admittedly says he is "unorganized" and lost the copy of the check that bank mailed him. This is not the UPA's fault, and it's not Bin Min's fault at all. When asked to produce the original check, Danny says he sent a copy which Mr. Min did not accept as the original. Mr. Min has no problems paying Danny Harriman the money once the original check is recieved. This is not "the whammy" as Danny Harriman referred to it. This is a business man that requires proof that money is owed before he pays you. The reason for this is: If you waited past the date of the check being valid, he doesn't owe Danny a red cent. Where The irresponsibility or Danny Harriman's admitted "unorganization" becomes the UPA's problem is not clear; yet Frank Alvarez went to bat on behalf of Danny Harriman to make sure he would receive his money. It's a safe bet that if he does not have the original, he won't be receiving money from Bin Min, and its not Mr. Min's fault, or the UPA's. It's Danny Harriman's fault for not depositing the check in a reasonably timely fashion.
In response to Danny's situation, I made an offer with Danny so that we could try to sit all parties down to come to a solution. In doing so, I talked to several people and I am still willing to do that. A player of Danny's ability should play with the best players in the world. In putting personal differences aside and coming to a solution , the following needs to occur.
1) Danny you need to contact me. My offer still stands. I will pay your entry fee to the Jacksonville event and your $100 UPA membership fee - to make this right - no strings attached. In return, you will be an active UPA member and receive all the benefits that come along with that - including tour points
seedings, and representation. All I am asking is that we sit down and handle this as adults.
2) Brady must pay Danny the remainder of what he is owed. Brady says its $800. Danny says he was never paid a dime, yet Frank Alvarez confirmed that Brady has made payments to Danny Harriman. Brady Behrman attempted to contact Danny privately to ask why Danny is saying he hasn't recieved money from him. Danny, you never replied to Brady Behrman.
In closing, I would like to let Danny Harriman know that all of us want this situation corrected. Nobody I have talked to is against Danny Harriman. In speaking with the UPA, there are several ways that this situation will be avoided with in the future. There have also been talks between myself and several tour directors about having an entity set up for the players to use in situations such as this. This would keep situations like this from getting out of hand. It is safe to say Danny that is a very good possibility that the money owed to you can be in your bank account by the end of this week - if you'd just pick up the phone and talk. It's great that everybody is behind you
during your misfortunes, but they also need to know the other side of the story. In situations such as this, it can be very easy to get caught up in a popularity contest instead of what the facts are. I hope that doesn't end up being the case here. The ball is in Danny's court. If he wants a solution, he'll contact me, Frank, or Brady to discuss this issue and resolve it once and for all. Either way, Danny, you win. Feel free to contact me anytime at
(386) 208-0011.
