Updates Mosconi Cup Day 2

Nostroke said:
When i made the line 12-7 back in Sept in the action room, I really thought it should be 12-8 but naturally i was looking for an advantage and did get a bet. It was clear from our performance in the Euro Tour event that we could play with these guys and were not going to roll over this year. Against all prior thinking, I think Johann was the biggest reason.

PS_Anyone have the total game tally per team?
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I agree I thought Johann was a great pic then Im more convinced now




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Nostroke said:
When i made the line 12-7 back in Sept in the action room, I really thought it should be 12-8 but naturally i was looking for an advantage and did get a bet. It was clear from our performance in the Euro Tour event that we could play with these guys and were not going to roll over this year. Against all prior thinking, I think Johann was the biggest reason.

PS_Anyone have the total game tally per team?
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AtLarge must be finishing supper.
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superb showings from Tyler and Billy. Shane safeties were so poor imo. Corey and Sky did not have much to show for.

But I was wondering where Shane was when others cheered for every rack, I did not see him anywhere, or TV did not catch him?

Europe were shaken, only Albin was good and produced some shots worthy of his caliber.

Jayson was classless, he was so afraid he played to pot the ball only and take on any shot he had, and he still scream about it.

I did not think Kaci were human until today.


Previous Mosconi's, USA made it easy for EUROPE because they were ill-prepared, and could not pose any pressure. this time, keep the pressure up and see who crack. I am happy I stay up all night here to watch it.
 
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ctran said:
superb showings from Tyler and Billy. Shane safeties were so poor imo. Corey and Sky did not have much to show for.

But I was wondering where Shane was when others cheered for every rack, I did not see him anywhere, or TV did not catch him?

Europe were shaken, only Albin was good and produced some shots worthy of his caliber.

Jayson was classless, he was so afraid he played to pot the ball only and take on any shot he had, and he still scream about it.

I did not think Kaci were human until today.


Previous Mosconi's, USA made it easy for EUROPE because they were ill-prepared, and could not pose any pressure. this time, keep the pressure up and see who crack. I am happy I stay up all night here to watch it.
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Agree on Jayson and he has the worst mental game of anyone on either team. He needs to be making every shot, which he often does, but if he falters, he tends to falter further.
 
Nostroke said:
Agree on Jayson and he has the worst mental game of anyone on either team. He needs to be making every shot, which he often does, but if he falters, he tends to falter further.
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Plus he's a colossal a**wipe. Just sayin'.
 
one stroke said:
And lots of money being lost , and not just by thier fans ,, I know a few guys that were getting 2-1 on the money yesterday taking USA,,


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it was actually 3 - 1 at one british bookie. and i didn't bet a cent..

euro can still win though, but it's getting obvious that kaci is not performing well. i missed his last match but from what i have seen he lacks mosconi mettle
 
ChrisinNC said:
Jayson Shaw is just a little too much for me to take, but the other 9 players seem to be in complete control of themselves. Kaci is apparently feeling the pressure/weight of the team concept and has made some uncharacteristic mistakes both days. Trying to force the cue ball on that 8-ball shot, attempting to get Shaw an easier shot on the 9-ball and rattling it out was completely unexcuseable. When you have a partner like Shaw, and on generous pockets like these, just cinch it and leave him a slightly tougher shot and very likely he would have had no problem making it. That missed shot severely changed the momentum in that match. In his doubles match, Thorpe played a few loose/risky safeties that didn't work out, but they still managed to win. Other than that, Woodward's miss on the shape and then missing the very makeable cut shot on the 7-ball in the 7th game of that opening match yesterday was really the only real mistake I've seen that cost the US. Otherwise, we've played very solid.
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Yep... like I said yesterday. Play this table like a bar box. If you get a little out of line just focus on rolling it in The position on the next ball doesn’t have to be perfect with these generous pockets.
 
skogstokig said:
it was actually 3 - 1 at one british bookie. and i didn't bet a cent..

euro can still win though, but it's getting obvious that kaci is not performing well. i missed his last match but from what i have seen he lacks mosconi mettle
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Same could be said about Shane year after year.
Jason
 
RichSchultz said:
AtL—

What is Tyler’s record, including the team match played first?
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I think Tyler did not miss a ball in the team match nor play a bad safety nor have any break that was not perfect. But I think he also did not shoot any shot. His first opponent ran out and it did not get around to him a second time. Oh, yeah, he didn't fail to freeze the lag in that match either.:smile:

So, what is the proper way to score that?

At least Alex Pagulayan got to lag against Kaci.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I think Tyler did not miss a ball in the team match nor play a bad safety nor have any break that was not perfect. But I think he also did not shoot any shot. His first opponent ran out and it did not get around to him a second time. Oh, yeah, he didn't fail to freeze the lag in that match either.:smile:

So, what is the proper way to score that?

At least Alex Pagulayan got to lag against Kaci.
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Funny stuff there, Bob!
 
I guess I have been out of touch for too long. I used to like Shaw. I watched the first match yesterday and he was a complete bag of dicks. Totally turned me off. I really hope he never wins again.
 
metallicane said:
I guess I have been out of touch for too long. I used to like Shaw. I watched the first match yesterday and he was a complete bag of dicks. Totally turned me off. I really hope he never wins again.
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Funny how he mentioned social media motivating him after his wife telling him everyone thought Shane had his number...wonder what she will tell him after he is being skewered for his behavior yesterday.

In reality, I bet they are encouraged to act out to some extent, but the over the top celebrations after EVERY RACK is not fitting a champion of his caliber.
 
RichSchultz said:
AtL—

What is Tyler’s record, including the team match played first?
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As Bob said, he didn't get to shoot in the Teams match.

He has played just twice -- a win (5-3) in singles against Feijen and a win (5-2) in doubles with Thorpe against Shaw and Kaçi.

If we ignore his "loss" in the Teams match, Styer and Ouschan are the only two players undefeated through two days.
 
AtLarge said:
As Bob said, he didn't get to shoot in the Teams match.

He has played just twice -- a win (5-3) in singles against Feijen and a win (5-2) in doubles with Thorpe against Shaw and Kaçi.

If we ignore his "loss" in the Teams match, Styer and Ouschan are the only two players undefeated through two days.
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Styer vs Ouschan in a singles match on Day 4 would be fireworks. They are both playing the best out of their respective teams and they're very similar in terms of style and cadence.
 
jokrswylde said:
Funny how he mentioned social media motivating him after his wife telling him everyone thought Shane had his number...wonder what she will tell him after he is being skewered for his behavior yesterday.

In reality, I bet they are encouraged to act out to some extent, but the over the top celebrations after EVERY RACK is not fitting a champion of his caliber.
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He made a critical mistake in his doubles match with Kaci, when he left him too straight in on that 8-ball on the end rail with the 9-ball sitting just under the spot, and secondly by not instructing Kaci, who was obviously struggling with making a decision, to just to go ahead and make the 8-ball and get him a little off the rail for a relatively straight shot in either of the two far corner pockets. Kaci tried to do too much with it and rattled the 8-ball, and that turned the momentum in that match.
 
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