I believe you - but in this case it's likely there was squirt canceled by swerve that you couldn't see.I observe a lot by watching.
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Using "Center Ball" - is it good advice or a hidden disadvantage?
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With straight in shots there's no need to cue the ball a "touch" to one side or the other unless you're cheating the pocket (intentionally favoring the left, or right side of the pocket). Some of the Filipino players said they always favor a side even on a straight in shot. (I'll find out why asap)
The stroke and how well your tempo is bringing the tip to the target makes a big difference. When you hit a regular stroke the cue ball will leave the table's surface slightly, I put a dime in between the cue ball and object ball to show players because it's visually undetectable.
The main issue with most players is they are not aligned perfectly to the Line of the Shot so when they come down to what they think is "Center Ball," it actually isn't. We did a test with SKY Woodward in Dallas, a friend of mine took several pictures and he Naturally lines up a touch to the inside when he thinks he's at center ball. When champion players have trouble coming down to center I'd venture to guess lower level players aren't and this may be a major opportunity for improvement.
The Game is the Teacher
The further away the object ball is the lower you have to hit your "center ball" to stop it "dead'. You can practice this shot, I'd highly recommend it, however, when you have an angle I'd suggest you try cuing the cue ball slightly to the inside, cutting a ball to the right, you favor right, cutting balls to the left you favor the left. This engages something in your subconscious mind that will allow you to make these cut shots like they are straight in. Nick Varner mentioned that to me long ago, he said "CJ, do you find it interesting how many shots you can shoot like they are straight in even when you have an angle?" - At that time I was doing this stuff naturally, it was a few years later I figured out why this was happening.
The Game is the Teacher
Ok took it back to the lab(pool table). Using a striped ball, I see the slightest change of the orientation of the strip but can’t detect any rotation other than the natural roll. When I get squirt it is accompanied by a clank and the ball continues on a straight path off line. The amount of throw I get off the end rail compares to what I can get on a twist back bank using my shooting cue and applying max spin to the cue ball and a small amount transferred to the object ball. On this experiment one diamond is my max throw. Half a diamond can be obtained without flirting with the clank.
I am starting to feel like Mo Norman This no chalk challenge is getting good to me.
This no chalk challenge is getting good to me...or you can hit it center ball with enough force to prevent the CB from picking up roll before reaching the OB. I would consider hitting a CB with excessive force rather than a "touch of draw", bad practice though. Of course I neither play the game or understand pretend physics so take that opinion with a grain of salt.
Funny thing,? I find your posts seem to be quite often, uh pretty much what I was thinking.
THANKS ALOT FOR YOUR REPLY
let me know when you get to florida
In the context of pool where most players hit what, and as they see, aiming center ball in stereo vision makes parallax distortion. TOI may bias that into a less illusory state. You seem to need a hypodermic to help you to understand English.
And perhaps you haven't played enough street level pool to even comprehend the requirements. ???
lol
But will it de-scramble the revolving pulse propulsion nullifier?
pj <- I think not
chgo
Only under grammakinesis which takes to long to lurn.
We hit most shots with a touch of draw already. The center of the back of the cue ball isn't the real center of the cue ball. Since we usually use that as our center reference while hitting slightly down on a cue ball most of our shots have a small element of draw. Kick shots are one place this shows up, that short banking first rail will hit more honest without draw on the cue ball.
Hu
Yes, I agree, but the good news is you have a lot to learn which is something to look forward to. And you probably can stop the ball cuing it higher and hitting it harder, but I'd strongly recommend you don't. The hardest thing there is to do in pool is hit the cueball perfectly in the center and hitting the center of the pocket. Raising your shot speed too much throws off the tempo, and that's a recipe for inconsistency.
You'll get it, keep experimenting and you can raise your level of play a level or two when you're willing to make the necessary changes.
The Game is the Teacher
Now that’s a nice nugget I hope others pick up on. Talk about dropping science like Galileo dropped the orange.
Agreed... I'm one of those fools that opts for a level cueing stroke, so my error isn't as great as those with a elevated back hand. ...well as level as it can be. I also feel as that I can consistently hit my CB target, whatever it may be. So my disclaimer of having zero clue to back my opinion still stands.
Funny thing, I have noticed that those that claim to be clueless are often more clued in than those that claim to be former perts.
Hu
Hitting the exact center usually produces topspin, it's extremely difficult to hit a "knuckle ball" if the object ball is 4+ feet away especially.And yet we know that maximum CB-to-OB spin transfer (and therefore maximum bank shortening) occurs with half of maximum side spin on the CB - much more than you're describing.
Please enlighten us how hitting "the exact center of the cueball" produces side spin.
It seems your talent is so great even the laws of physics can't resist you...
pj
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By hitting dead center, sure. But stop shots using different tip heights are a pretty universal skill.
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Changing tip elevation without skew is a technique I have yet to master. FH or BH it's seldom a simple up/down adjustment. You?
Wait! I thought you said that it's impossible for anyone to hit exact center ball? Ah, maybe that's all part of the grand illusion......