USPPA Reno players, did they get paid?

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Unless you are a member of the USPPA, which I doubt, I believe you should not offer explanations or excuses for the why the promoter hasn't paid the players yet. You are confusing the issue. I don't believe that your attempts to "cool down" the situation is helping. In fact, from what I see, it is only making matters worse. Stay out of it!
 
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The list below is just the top 13 posters in this thread. As of Monday Jan 24th at 7am west coast time.

Will the players ever get paid, I am sure they will. One way or another.

Will the USPPA survive this? I don't know.

Damage is done, Reputations are diminished and trust is minimal.

justnum 88
levartze 27
jay helfert 24
TATE 22
sunnyday 20
cabilliardclub 19
wahcheck 18
cardiac kid 18
Mark Griffin 16
nfty9er 16
kybill9 15
FranCrimi 14
Dudley 13
 
Tom,

Missed you last week in Sacramento. Didn't have enough time to stop by while visiting the grand kids. Next time.

My only hope for this thread is it makes another promoter think twice about making promises they know may not be fulfilled. As it stands, the vast majority of players have not been paid. Tony won. The players lost. If there really was a legitimate explaination for this disaster, the USPPA or one of its representatives should have been here or on the AZ front page explaining what the solution might be. Their responsibility extends to past, present and future players. If Tony could take the time to present a front page manifesto of the USPPA policies on defining added money, hotel discounts and future intentions, he can post an answer. Works both ways.

I do not want to brush this episode off. Most every tournament I attend requires me to travel long distances. Sometimes cross country. Just to play pool. If this problem is not resolved soon, every event will be under the microscope. One too many things for me to keep track of at my age.

I agree too much has been said already. Nothing has been accomplished. As I like to think of it, nothing but verbal masterbation. JMHO.

Lyn
 
It is clear that some posters here have not had any experience with bad management. The idea of keeping quiet about the problem is an old school tactic enforced by low level managers.

The delayed payment situation is comparable to workers not being paid proper wages. In this case workers not being paid at all.

The sooner the low level managers part of the scam realize it the quicker things get done.


How much they get paid to post dribble on a internet board is most likely better than what they would get paid stocking shelves or selling gizmos. And for them it is usually funnier to rile up living people than to be on the short end of the stick getting denied for a sales job.

As for people not posting opinions on the topic it is clear that the internet has become a place for the hush hushers to do their job hoping to bring a new batch of victims for next years setup or the next girls date.

The higher level managers will talk about moving players to other tournaments or other events to keep you busy and interested in pool. The highest level manager will talk about how the players are right and what is happening shouldn't be happening and then sell you a deal.
 
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justnum said:
Are you a cop or something?

The players got stiffed there are no payments. Your complaining won't change that.

The problem is people don't understand the USPPA and people who deal with the USPPA prize money at the Reno event failed to do their job. What you need to focus on is that players paid entry fees and put on a tournament while someone swiped the cash for an all expenses paid trip with the prize money.

What else could have happened? It is only a small organization the guy mismanaged funds and is skating on thin ice as people mount speculation.

The most important thing to think about is how the spamming has gotten worse at AZ and is watering down the quality of events and prize payouts.

Why are you having such a hard time understanding that the players got scammed? And from the gossip here some room operators as well.
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I am one of those players you speak of but you have no clue except what you have read in this thread. Your excessive ranting about a situation you are not a part of or have any involvement with is just plain dumb.
 
ABall said:
I am one of those players you speak of but you have no clue except what you have read in this thread. Your excessive ranting about a situation you are not a part of or have any involvement with is just plain dumb.
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Why are you speaking to me? I am not interested in you.
 
justnum said:
Why are you speaking to me? I am not interested in you.
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As I am also an active and paid member of the USPPA, I can confidently say that your posts in this thread are freaking retarded.

But two can play it that game, so here is my response to all of your posts in this thread:

The prize money, which is being held by a rabid pack of wolves in Tony's pool hall, will be released once the corporation has a financial realization. Due to stand-up comedians organizing the calcutta, a hooker dressed as one of the New Kids on the Block will be dispersing the tight racks to the masses.

Anonymous internet posters, who are all members of the APA, have banded together to create a super faction that will be forcing everyone to keep a pencil behind their ear. Due to all of the league and tournament promoters, people are not going to play pool any more as there are too many options.

As many two bit hustlers can tell you, if you bankroll your money and gamble against a serious player, you will assuredly take all of their money. Although, if you don't speak Engligh, then your chances of a financial windfall is diminished due to the color of the felt.

Next year, the group of anonymous donors who fund any and all tournaments that pay the players will be forming a legal defense team that will fluctuate with the current economic climate within the pool halls of America. This political maneuvering will dictate the flavor of candy given to the minorities, while solidifying the artistic capabilities of the well known bar pool player.

The Nevada Gaming Commission, made up of former ping pong world champions, has ruled that all soft drinks served to the audience will have to pass a stringent "fizz" test. This test, which will be supervised by SVB and Bill Gates, requires the participant to apply for a credit card that offers them unlimited rewards points, which may be redeemed basic necessities such as new socks and furry hats for the players.

In conclusion, it is obvious now that the escrow account used for this undertaking was manipulated by the bankers on Wall St, the NAACP, and 2 guys living in a cave in Afghanistan. Until the pool playing public understands that you can put the lime in the coconut but you must take out a tournament insurance policy as well, the sanctioning bodies will have to live without hot sauce on their tacos.

Hope this helps.
 
MahnaMahna said:
As I am also an active and paid member of the USPPA, I can confidently say that your posts in this thread are freaking retarded.

But two can play it that game, so here is my response to all of your posts in this thread:

The prize money, which is being held by a rabid pack of wolves in Tony's pool hall, will be released once the corporation has a financial realization. Due to stand-up comedians organizing the calcutta, a hooker dressed as one of the New Kids on the Block will be dispersing the tight racks to the masses.

Anonymous internet posters, who are all members of the APA, have banded together to create a super faction that will be forcing everyone to keep a pencil behind their ear. Due to all of the league and tournament promoters, people are not going to play pool any more as there are too many options.

As many two bit hustlers can tell you, if you bankroll your money and gamble against a serious player, you will assuredly take all of their money. Although, if you don't speak Engligh, then your chances of a financial windfall is diminished due to the color of the felt.

Next year, the group of anonymous donors who fund any and all tournaments that pay the players will be forming a legal defense team that will fluctuate with the current economic climate within the pool halls of America. This political maneuvering will dictate the flavor of candy given to the minorities, while solidifying the artistic capabilities of the well known bar pool player.

The Nevada Gaming Commission, made up of former ping pong world champions, has ruled that all soft drinks served to the audience will have to pass a stringent "fizz" test. This test, which will be supervised by SVB and Bill Gates, requires the participant to apply for a credit card that offers them unlimited rewards points, which may be redeemed basic necessities such as new socks and furry hats for the players.

In conclusion, it is obvious now that the escrow account used for this undertaking was manipulated by the bankers on Wall St, the NAACP, and 2 guys living in a cave in Afghanistan. Until the pool playing public understands that you can put the lime in the coconut but you must take out a tournament insurance policy as well, the sanctioning bodies will have to live without hot sauce on their tacos.

Hope this helps.
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LMAO.

The bad part is he will probably agree with you 100%, then ask if he can be the Batman to your Robin.
 
MahnaMahna said:
As I am also an active and paid member of the USPPA, I can confidently say that your posts in this thread are freaking retarded.

But two can play it that game, so here is my response to all of your posts in this thread:

The prize money, which is being held by a rabid pack of wolves in Tony's pool hall, will be released once the corporation has a financial realization. Due to stand-up comedians organizing the calcutta, a hooker dressed as one of the New Kids on the Block will be dispersing the tight racks to the masses.

Anonymous internet posters, who are all members of the APA, have banded together to create a super faction that will be forcing everyone to keep a pencil behind their ear. Due to all of the league and tournament promoters, people are not going to play pool any more as there are too many options.

As many two bit hustlers can tell you, if you bankroll your money and gamble against a serious player, you will assuredly take all of their money. Although, if you don't speak Engligh, then your chances of a financial windfall is diminished due to the color of the felt.

Next year, the group of anonymous donors who fund any and all tournaments that pay the players will be forming a legal defense team that will fluctuate with the current economic climate within the pool halls of America. This political maneuvering will dictate the flavor of candy given to the minorities, while solidifying the artistic capabilities of the well known bar pool player.

The Nevada Gaming Commission, made up of former ping pong world champions, has ruled that all soft drinks served to the audience will have to pass a stringent "fizz" test. This test, which will be supervised by SVB and Bill Gates, requires the participant to apply for a credit card that offers them unlimited rewards points, which may be redeemed basic necessities such as new socks and furry hats for the players.

In conclusion, it is obvious now that the escrow account used for this undertaking was manipulated by the bankers on Wall St, the NAACP, and 2 guys living in a cave in Afghanistan. Until the pool playing public understands that you can put the lime in the coconut but you must take out a tournament insurance policy as well, the sanctioning bodies will have to live without hot sauce on their tacos.

Hope this helps.
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You have him down pretty good.


I noticed that he has been on azb 5 years but i never noticed his posts before. Has he always been this bizarre?
 
Nostroke said:
You have him down pretty good.


I noticed that he has been on azb 5 years but i never noticed his posts before. Has he always been this bizarre?
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Probably started after he got back from the Mother Ship,
I warned him about not wearing his tin foil hat.
 
MahnaMahna said:
As I am also an active and paid member of the USPPA, I can confidently say that your posts in this thread are freaking retarded.

But two can play it that game, so here is my response to all of your posts in this thread:

The prize money, which is being held by a rabid pack of wolves in Tony's pool hall, will be released once the corporation has a financial realization. Due to stand-up comedians organizing the calcutta, a hooker dressed as one of the New Kids on the Block will be dispersing the tight racks to the masses.

Anonymous internet posters, who are all members of the APA, have banded together to create a super faction that will be forcing everyone to keep a pencil behind their ear. Due to all of the league and tournament promoters, people are not going to play pool any more as there are too many options.

As many two bit hustlers can tell you, if you bankroll your money and gamble against a serious player, you will assuredly take all of their money. Although, if you don't speak Engligh, then your chances of a financial windfall is diminished due to the color of the felt.

Next year, the group of anonymous donors who fund any and all tournaments that pay the players will be forming a legal defense team that will fluctuate with the current economic climate within the pool halls of America. This political maneuvering will dictate the flavor of candy given to the minorities, while solidifying the artistic capabilities of the well known bar pool player.

The Nevada Gaming Commission, made up of former ping pong world champions, has ruled that all soft drinks served to the audience will have to pass a stringent "fizz" test. This test, which will be supervised by SVB and Bill Gates, requires the participant to apply for a credit card that offers them unlimited rewards points, which may be redeemed basic necessities such as new socks and furry hats for the players.

In conclusion, it is obvious now that the escrow account used for this undertaking was manipulated by the bankers on Wall St, the NAACP, and 2 guys living in a cave in Afghanistan. Until the pool playing public understands that you can put the lime in the coconut but you must take out a tournament insurance policy as well, the sanctioning bodies will have to live without hot sauce on their tacos.

Hope this helps.
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So you agree Tony is the person who has the money and is preventing people from getting the prize money.
 
MahnaMahna said:
No, the rabid wolves are the reason. Which part of my post don't you understand???
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I am glad you finally confessed and agreed that Tony is responsible for the money and is the only obstacle to receiving the prize money.

Regardless of how insane your theory is about where the money currently is, you have admitted to the details that I agreed with mentioned earlier.
 
wahcheck said:
.....looney tunes........
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I know its like when someone finds an active fan site they think it is their personal show or something. The nerve of some people getting preachy or giving a lecture or even talking about censorship on the internet (this isn't China).

I blame the money specifically a person who had it spent it and attracted other people to go after it in the billiard community.
 
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SlowEddie said:
Unless you are a member of the USPPA, which I doubt, I believe you should not offer explanations or excuses for the why the promoter hasn't paid the players yet. You are confusing the issue. I don't believe that your attempts to "cool down" the situation is helping. In fact, from what I see, it is only making matters worse. Stay out of it!
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Last time I checked this was America. I don't belong to the USPPA any longer because it is filled with people who deliberately keep their averages low for tournaments. If you don't like my posting, come and tell me about it person. I am at the DCC and although I cannot play, I am posting from there, also. Since I do know most of the players who did not get paid, and numerous others who do post, I WILL CONTINUE. Just for you, I may start posting a reply to every other post. People have said some ridiculous things on this thread. I vote yours to be number one. I have very right to complain about those players not getting paid. It means the action money that should be in my pocket is in someone elses pocket. The only person who would benefit from "cooling down" would be the person who owes the payouts. You don't have to read the thread. Not reading it would allow you to cool down.
 
My Apologies

kybill9 said:
Last time I checked this was America. I don't belong to the USPPA any longer because it is filled with people who deliberately keep their averages low for tournaments. If you don't like my posting, come and tell me about it person. I am at the DCC and although I cannot play, I am posting from there, also. Since I do know most of the players who did not get paid, and numerous others who do post, I WILL CONTINUE. Just for you, I may start posting a reply to every other post. People have said some ridiculous things on this thread. I vote yours to be number one. I have very right to complain about those players not getting paid. It means the action money that should be in my pocket is in someone elses pocket. The only person who would benefit from "cooling down" would be the person who owes the payouts. You don't have to read the thread. Not reading it would allow you to cool down.
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kybill9,

My remarks were directed at "JUSTNUM" Not you. My apologies.
 
SlowEddie said:
kybill9,

My remarks were directed at "JUSTNUM" Not you. My apologies.
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You don't have to apologize to me. This is an internet thread discussion.

I understand after cooling off you realize the mistake in logic you made. I won't insult you by repeating what you failed to understand earlier.

The players didn't get paid prize money and people are making some noise or protesting what has happened and making noise so that this situation doesn't happen again.

I appreciate the use of the word apology, but you can be more mature and focus on developing ideas instead of selling script lines off of B movies.
 
Post of the year!

Sir, you are a genius!

MahnaMahna said:
As I am also an active and paid member of the USPPA, I can confidently say that your posts in this thread are freaking retarded.

But two can play it that game, so here is my response to all of your posts in this thread:

The prize money, which is being held by a rabid pack of wolves in Tony's pool hall, will be released once the corporation has a financial realization. Due to stand-up comedians organizing the calcutta, a hooker dressed as one of the New Kids on the Block will be dispersing the tight racks to the masses.

Anonymous internet posters, who are all members of the APA, have banded together to create a super faction that will be forcing everyone to keep a pencil behind their ear. Due to all of the league and tournament promoters, people are not going to play pool any more as there are too many options.

As many two bit hustlers can tell you, if you bankroll your money and gamble against a serious player, you will assuredly take all of their money. Although, if you don't speak Engligh, then your chances of a financial windfall is diminished due to the color of the felt.

Next year, the group of anonymous donors who fund any and all tournaments that pay the players will be forming a legal defense team that will fluctuate with the current economic climate within the pool halls of America. This political maneuvering will dictate the flavor of candy given to the minorities, while solidifying the artistic capabilities of the well known bar pool player.

The Nevada Gaming Commission, made up of former ping pong world champions, has ruled that all soft drinks served to the audience will have to pass a stringent "fizz" test. This test, which will be supervised by SVB and Bill Gates, requires the participant to apply for a credit card that offers them unlimited rewards points, which may be redeemed basic necessities such as new socks and furry hats for the players.

In conclusion, it is obvious now that the escrow account used for this undertaking was manipulated by the bankers on Wall St, the NAACP, and 2 guys living in a cave in Afghanistan. Until the pool playing public understands that you can put the lime in the coconut but you must take out a tournament insurance policy as well, the sanctioning bodies will have to live without hot sauce on their tacos.

Hope this helps.
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