VanBoening, why isn't he playing in any tournaments this week ?

I have two wonderful petbulls that wouldnt harm a fly. But was born in the wrong decade. Dont blame the breed blame the deed.. Pitbulls are one of most if not the most loyal companion a man could want for..
 
Robertduke said:
I have two wonderful petbulls that wouldnt harm a fly. But was born in the wrong decade. Dont blame the breed blame the deed.. Pitbulls are one of most if not the most loyal companion a man could want for..
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Notice that I said petbulls and not pitt... =)
 
Joe Rogan said:
I'm on that boat too, rowing around in an ocean of retards.
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Wouldnt that put you outa of a job.. You being the host of a show where people eat worms, cowbrains, and doing so called retarded things.. :D
 
Lol

Took me 6-7 months to get rid of a ground squirrel one time. I felt like I was in the 'Twight light' zone of Caddyshack ....:D
 
MikeJanis said:
It is not ignorance. I and my family trained dogs for many years. We trained all kinds of dogs for many different services but we never took any Pits.

The dogs were bread incorrectly and were never meant to be household pets.
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Can someone please go back and rename this "The Pit Bull Thread" ? :p

I just want to add this. I have never had a Pit or really even known one very well. I have English Setters, a rather submissive breed of bird dogs. They don't even bark at strangers for the most part. Other dogs that are aggressive scare them :rolleyes: . I HAVE been in obedience classes where aggressive Pits, Rots, and other individuals were trying to participate. I should say, in most cases, where their owners were trying to participate. In my limited understanding, I know that Bulldogs were bred to bait bulls originally, while their owners did something that the bulls didn't want to happen. The Bulldogs would grab the bulls by the nose and refuse to let go, even when being swung and smashed on whatever was handy, like a fence or a tree :eek: . Much later, Pits or their ancestors were bred to fight in a 'pit' , or a ring with borders. That breeding is hard to displace, especially when some current enthusiasts are still trying to make the dogs even tougher !

I have seen many kind and friendly Pits at dog shows, but IMHO the problem manifests itself when for whatever reason these dogs go off and blow a fuse. It can be over food, or in perceived self defense, or in defense of their owners. The problem is in GETTING THEM STOPPED ! Police reports of LEOs having to shoot a Pit 15 times or more are not at all unusual. Granted, these are almost always untrained and unsupervised dogs, but not always. Often enough to be terrifying, it's the family pet mauling a child.

I've also seen a Pit go off at a dog park. Of course there was nobody willing to jump in and help and risk being bitten, an almost guaranteed part of breaking up a bad dogfight. From that day forward, when I see a Pit at a place where I'm walking my dog, I go the other way. I also carry a .45 loaded with Hollow Point ammo, just in case. Too bad that we have to worry about our safety or the safety of our pets when going for a walk.

I won't debate whose fault it is, or whether the solution lies in euthanasia. I feel for those owners who have loving, docile animals as pets that are members of a breed with a bad rep. A bad rep because of what they have done, or what man has bred them to be or do. Does it really matter ? I really don't understand why people would choose the breed unless it to look "BAD" ...Tom
 
hmm... i'm not sure if i see it like that. i don't think he was referring to anyone in particular more than he was insinuating that there are a lot of ignorance out there. maybe "retard" could have been replaced by a more politically correct term though haha.
 
tpdtom said:
I also carry a .45 loaded with Hollow Point ammo, just in case. Too bad that we have to worry about our safety or the safety of our pets when going for a walk.
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That outta do the trick lol.
 
choice

tpdtom said:
Can someone please go back and rename this "The Pit Bull Thread" ? :p

I just want to add this. I have never had a Pit or really even known one very well. I have English Setters, a rather submissive breed of bird dogs. They don't even bark at strangers for the most part. Other dogs that are aggressive scare them :rolleyes: . I HAVE been in obedience classes where aggressive Pits, Rots, and other individuals were trying to participate. I should say, in most cases, where their owners were trying to participate. In my limited understanding, I know that Bulldogs were bred to bait bulls originally, while their owners did something that the bulls didn't want to happen. The Bulldogs would grab the bulls by the nose and refuse to let go, even when being swung and smashed on whatever was handy, like a fence or a tree :eek: . Much later, Pits or their ancestors were bred to fight in a 'pit' , or a ring with borders. That breeding is hard to displace, especially when some current enthusiasts are still trying to make the dogs even tougher !

I have seen many kind and friendly Pits at dog shows, but IMHO the problem manifests itself when for whatever reason these dogs go off and blow a fuse. It can be over food, or in perceived self defense, or in defense of their owners. The problem is in GETTING THEM STOPPED ! Police reports of LEOs having to shoot a Pit 15 times or more are not at all unusual. Granted, these are almost always untrained and unsupervised dogs, but not always. Often enough to be terrifying, it's the family pet mauling a child.

I've also seen a Pit go off at a dog park. Of course there was nobody willing to jump in and help and risk being bitten, an almost guaranteed part of breaking up a bad dogfight. From that day forward, when I see a Pit at a place where I'm walking my dog, I go the other way. I also carry a .45 loaded with Hollow Point ammo, just in case. Too bad that we have to worry about our safety or the safety of our pets when going for a walk.

I won't debate whose fault it is, or whether the solution lies in euthanasia. I feel for those owners who have loving, docile animals as pets that are members of a breed with a bad rep. A bad rep because of what they have done, or what man has bred them to be or do. Does it really matter ? I really don't understand why people would choose the breed unless it to look "BAD" ...Tom
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My choice was easy,my dog was given to me by my best friend,I took him so he could have a good home and to remove him from the cage that he was confined in.The original owners didn't take good care of him and my friends mother the breeder took him back.I understand where you are coming from with what you stated in your well written post.I am very careful with whom toole interacts with.He is only allowed in my acre fenced in back yard with my mastiffs.He isn't allowed to be alone with my nephews at all.I got him so he could have a good life.But if any of the behaviors surface that you have descrided then action will be taken.....I have heard of those horror stories that you have described and I will protect the public from my dog and my dog from the public.That is my duty as the owner,and If i had to for some unknown reason he would be put down if needed.That might seem a little severe but I feel that if I do my part then the need should never arise ,good forbid.Plus my mastiffs can handle him pretty good,as he has found out.
 
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